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Need help with dosing-25C-NBOMe HCL-

guterkamerad

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I plan on buying 25c NBOMe again (2c-c) but I don't want to fail miserably at creating doses and dieing like last time. (I took maybe 10+Mg). I want to create a solution with vodka/water and to drop the solution on 1x1 blotters for later use. I'm looking for 500ug-1mg per blotter. Can someone give me some insight on how I can do this accurately without a scale? (It will be 50mg HCL when bought).

Thanks in advance, Guterkamerad
 
25c-NBOMe ≠ 2C-C

They're 2 different things.

And please, if dosage went wrong last time (sorry to hear) then don't try and lay blotters. It's quite hard to do it properly. I just lay individual chewing gum 'hits' every time I do this when me and my pimps hit the club. (e.g unable to take a needle-less syringe and vial and everything) You could lay individual blotter tabs, but why bother?

At any rate, here is what you should do:

First of all, you should really get a scale. I don't know what exactly happened last time, but it seems like it wasn't something you'd want to experience a second time.

However, that is pretty expensive and I understand if you don't want to spend $200-300, especially if you're hardly ever in a situation where you weigh your own drugs. We can minimize the risk, however.

We do that by getting some accurate form of measurement. 1ml syringe should do the trick. In that case if you drop too much of a liquid, we are only off by maybe 20-30ug of NBOMe. We also do that by making sure our solution isn't dangerously potent. For example if you take 5ml of ethanol, which gives you a ratio of 10mg/ml, then even the smallest of errors will give you much more than you wanted.

Starting with the actual laying of things, you first should check how much liquid a single gum/tab/whatever holds. A half piece of gum IME holds something like 0.1ml. Maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less. This determines how much of a liquid you should add to your 50mg of 25c-NBOMe. I'd add 10ml if you're going with the gum route. In that chase you get 5mg/ml, and you can safely/accurately dose. After that, just drop 0.1ml on a half-piece of gum, let it dry and you're all set.

p.s This is all given your vendor isn't overly generous and decides to give you double the NBOMe. Hit the web to see what a comparable amount looks like.
 
I'd recommend that first of all you get a milligram scale. You can find some suggestions in this thread, or a personal suggestion would be to get this one for just $23.30 :)

A milligram scale will not be enough to accurately dose 25C-NBOMe, since even the best milligram scales are only accurate to within 0.5mg - which can be a full dose with this compound. However, a milligram scale will allow you to confirm that you have in fact been sent 50mg - it's common for vendors to send you extra substance to make you happy, and if they send you 75mg instead of 50mg but you treat it as 50mg when performing liquid measurements your dosages will be completely wrong.

If you can afford blotter paper and 50mg of 25C, you can definitely afford a $23 scale, so I'd go down that route - it's not worth assuming it's 50mg when a scale is so cheap and that could be dangerous if you're given a lot more than you expect as sometimes happens with vendors.

Everything else I'd agree with kidklmx, but don't try to eyeball out what the original amount is. If you really can't afford the scale, find a friend with a milligram scale and borrow it just to weigh the initial amount. :)

This'll likely be merged with the main 25C-NBOMe thread once you've had a chance to reply.
 
Don't even attempt to take 25C-NBOMe without a scale. Horrible idea, this is how these compounds become illegal. I don't want to listen to your mother bitch on the news.

Buy a scale......
 
Hey, I've been searching EVERYWHERE for an answer to this, could you guys please help me?

I ordered a G of 25c-NBOME and I have been dong TONS of research on the risks, doses, ROA's and solubility of both the freebase and HCL form.

I still haven't gotten a clear answer.

Why do people say to add alcohol?
Is it strictly for preservation? Does it increase bioavailability for sublingual and buccal hits?

From what I understand, polysorbate is only useful for the freebase and does not increase bioavailability in the HCL form, which is what I am getting.

Please, I've read SO much on this stuff and am getting a huge headache. Every thread (including both big and dandy's) are full of ADHD like replies where they will touch on the topic then just move to something not even related to 25c.

I plan to possibly make blotter, or simply use altoids.

I have measured the drops per mL out of a visine bottle over 20 times. I get an average range of 15-17 drops per mL.

I plan to mix 50mg's of 25c with UP TO 7mL's of liquid. I say UP to because I will probably use less, like 6.7, to help compensate for the range in drops.

I was just going to use water, but I see people saying to use vodka (40 percent) or just everclear (90% )

Can someone please help me T_T. I've seriously read over 100 pages on this shit and still don't have a definitive answer to feel good about.

thanks in advance guys.

update: I wanna just pour my one gram into 133.33 mL's of solvent and that way I can dose it better. Trust me, I will test these visine bottles even more before my order comes in.
 
people use alcohol because ethanol is a better solvent for the nbome than plain water, & the additional preservative effect
 
I appreciate the update.

I read that it's easily soluble at 8mg/mL

If I stay within those restraints, could I just get away with water?
 
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