Opioids Need help using Sandoz 100mcg patch (non-gel)

[prhighmalrage]

I picked up a 100mcg sandoz patch today. I don't even wanna think about how much I paid for it because it was so much. Anyways, I've smoked fentanyl gel in the past and it was great... but how can I use the non-gel style ones to get high without too much of a risk? I've been using opioids daily for about 2 years. I generally use high quality kratom extracts (trust me, stronger than you think), but I also dabble in oxy/pills. My oxy tolerance is only about 20-30mg oxy snorted to get me high for about 30 mins, but I can easily handle 40mg - 60mg oxy snorted or taken orally at a time. It takes about 80mg oxy to keep me well all day but I wouldn't be high all day. I haven't banged before, but I'm considering trying it with this patch.... not RIGHT now though.

Okay, now that my background explanation is over, here are my questions:

- How long does it take to kick in if you do it bucally (between lower lip and gum)?,

and do you chew them or put them on skin first to activate them or just throw them between your gum? Does it work under the tongue too?

- How much of the patch should I take if I want it to compare to about 40mg oxy?

- How long should I wait to be sure I don't take too much, if I'm not feeling it much and I want to take more? I'm guessing it takes about 20 minutes to 30-40 minutes to get the full effect from buccal absorption? Or more?

- (Same question as above, why did I type it twice?) Lets say I put about 1/20th of the patch between my gum and lower lip (as I have done), if I don't feel anything, how long should I wait before adding another little piece? Honestly i'd probably take the first piece out, and just save it for later rather than being risky and doubling it up.

- And lastly, has anyone tried smoking one of these patches (I know it's bad, but I'd do it once to try it at least if it does work)?


Thank you so much for answering my questions/giving me advice! I currently have a slight buzz after having 1/20th approx. of a patch between my gum and lip, but it's not quite strong enough. Wanna take more but need to know how long I should wait to be safe.

 

[prhighmalrage]

Just so you guys know, I have done as much reading as possible and am continuing to do some reading on this but still am wondering a few things.

I guess the questions I would like answered most are the following:

- How long does it take to kick in if you do it bucally (between lower lip and gum)?,

and do you chew them or put them on skin first to activate them or just throw them between your gum? Does it work under the tongue too?

- How much of the patch should I take if I want it to compare to about 40mg oxy?

- How long should I wait to be sure I don't take too much, if I'm not feeling it much and I want to take more? I'm guessing it takes about 20 minutes to 30-40 minutes to get the full effect from buccal absorption? Or more?

- (Same question as above, why did I type it twice?) Lets say I put about 1/20th of the patch between my gum and lower lip (as I have done), if I don't feel anything, how long should I wait before adding another little piece? Honestly i'd probably take the first piece out, and just save it for later rather than being risky and doubling it up.

- And lastly, has anyone tried smoking one of these patches (I know it's bad, but I'd do it once to try it at least if it does work)?

Thanks anyone who can help me out!!

 

[Oxycontin160mg]

I dont know about any of your other questions but someone did post on here a while ago that they tried smoking it and it does work. I guess you just peel off a small piece of the adhesive and smoke that.