(NEED HELP) First time using meth. Multiple questions.

[FirstTime]

I recently made a new friend and just found out he sold meth. I bought <snip> I plan on using it for the first time tomorrow night and I have a lot of questions because I am incredibly oblivious to any facts on this drug except that it's one of the best stimulants. It looks like a bunch of very well broken up white and clear crystals. But it has no smell and this is what is making me question it.

Questions:

<snip>Substance ID questions are not allowed on this forum. No one knows what the substance you have is, it would be difficult to tell in real life without testing it, and impossible over a forum.<snip>

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3.) What method of consumption would give me best results?

4.) How much should I use in one dose?

5.) I've never had a comedown on any drug but if I have one on this what will it feel like?

6.) What would help the comedown?

7.) What is the high like?

8.) How long will the effects last?

9.) I have some adderall, good weed, and salvia 60x. Would any of these make for a better or more memorable experience? (I love mixing as many highs as possible together)

Feedback will be greatly appreciated :D

 

[laCster]

please, no price disscusion...

not asking so many questions will allow people to answer them easily

snort or smoke some of that shit. i would plug some, and smoke some personally. dont take the addy or the salvia, they will ruin your experience. smoking weed is fun on amps though IMO

 

[hatrix]

Eh, weed on amps is to each his own. I personally don't like to fog up my mental clarity I get from taking amphetamines. Plus, weed just increases my anxiety usually. Especially if it's shitty commercial grade weed.

No one is going to be able to tell you if what you have is actually meth. You'll have to find out for yourself. Plugging would probably give the best results, along with snorting or smoking.

As far as a comedown, seeing as this is your first time chances are you will be high for a LONG time. Like 12+ hours. Never done meth personally, but I know first time users can be high for even 24 hours. The comedown is usually just kind of a feeling of being depleted of energy and mentally tired. Also, if you are prone to anxiety you will probably be ridden with a bit of it. Benzos like xanax can help make a comedown enjoyable and almost nonexistent as far as bad feelings go, along with aiding in putting you to sleep.

Don't combine with anything you mentioned. Take it by itself. You won't even feel the Adderall and Salvia will just ruin the high.

The high is just like any other stimulant really. If you have taken Adderall before, it's not that much different. Most people would probably say it's better. Sometimes described as "Adderall without the bad side effects". More euphoria than Adderall too I'm sure, but still your typical amphetamine high.

Dosage is going to highly depend on the purity of the product. Street meth is never completely pure. You can find a beginners dosage chart I believe in the other drugs forum. I don't know a dosage to start with off hand. But the dosage recommend there is going to assume 100% purity, so you will need to do a little more.

 

[laCster]

what?!?!?!?!? i fucking LOVE marijuana on amphetamine. i love marijuana to begin with though heh...

 

[hatrix]

what?!?!?!?!? i fucking LOVE marijuana on amphetamine. i love marijuana to begin with though heh...

Hahaha I know you do. I USED to be a complete stoner, and only smoked weed. Didn't do any hard drugs what so ever. Those days were a lot different. My anxiety keeps me from smoking weed very often now. Sometimes I'll smoke it on my Adderall comedown, but it always gives me anxiety cause my parents only ever have commercial shit. With some good dank, I don't really get the anxiety. I kind of do.... but the high is a lot different and there are less physical anxiety symptoms from it. Much preferred.

I still wouldn't smoke any until the comedown though. I like to keep my speediness clearheaded.

Also, if I'm going to smoke weed by itself, which i did the other day, it has to be accompanied by a benzo like my valium.

 

[thesameoldfears]

3. Oral, snorting, plugging, smoking, or shooting are all options with meth. I would recommend snorting or plugging due to the fast onset and ability to titrate your dose up sloooowly. Smoking is also an option, but there is a fairly specific way to smoke meth, and if you don't have someone to show you it's hard to describe.

4. Titrate your dose up slowly until you are where you want to be. IMO nothing is worse than being over stimulated. Keep in mind if you are used to Adderall, that a 30mg capsule contains a LARGE amount of filler so don't think you can use a visually equivalent amount.

5. If you don't overdo it, the comedown will feel like you're tired, dehydrated, hungry, cranky, and anxious. I used to like smoking a bowl or something to help me to sleep after coming down. If you do too much, or redose repeatedly and stay up for days, all the symptoms I listed above will be more exaggerated. You can help this by staying hydrated by continuing to eat and drink, not redosing once you get where you want to be, and forcing yourself to sleep instead of doing more to get back up once you feel yourself coming down.

6. Something that relaxes you and helps you sleep will help with the comedown. Drink several glasses of something hydrating (not alcohol or soda), eat a nice meal, and stay in a good mental state. Dim the lights, put on some relaxing music, or whatever normally means you're preparing for sleep. Then you can smoke some weed (don't do this if you're prone to paranoia or anxiety when smoking, only if it makes you happy, hungry, and tired), or even take a benzo or something in low doses ONCE the stimulant effects have peaked and subsided a good bit. The danger in combining something like meth and a benzo is becoming either overly stimulated and not realizing it until the depressant wears off, or vice versa - taking too much benzo before your meth high has worn off and when it does being at risk for an OD. Otherwise it is *fairly* safe if you use common sense and only take something once you've come down significantly and feel it will be necessary.

7. The high to me is a lot like Adderall, with perhaps a touch more euphoria. However, if you're prone to anxiety and paranoia, or if you stay up too long or redose too frequently, it can take a turn for the worse with the "shadow people" coming out and doing shit like hiding in your bathroom with a shotgun because you're sure the swat team is waiting outside the door for you. If you are smart and sensible, it is stimulating, helps you focus, and makes you talk and unable to sleep. I don't find it nearly as euphoric as cocaine, but some people love it. It would be good to have a friend around to keep you grounded your first time.

8. This is really subjective. If you just titrate up until you're where you want to be and don't continue to redose throughout the night, it will still probably be 8, 12, or even 24 hours. I lived in a house full of tweakers at one point (as I was homeess otherwise, I really love those guys more than they'll ever know, but anyways....) and the guy who shared his bed with me almost never went to sleep the day he did meth.

9. Again, very subjective. I would put a hard no on the salvia because it could easily take a turn for the worst. Adderall would be useless as it's basically just a weaker form of meth. Some people like laC above like smoking with everything and find it makes everything more enjoyable. Others like hatrix finds it adds to the anxiety too much. Personally, I would find smoking useless with meth because it would just ruin everything I was aiming to get out of the meth high, as well as probably make me paranoid or anxious. I wouldn't combine it with anything your first time.

Feedback: be careful. Of the people I used to live with mentioned above, two of them are now in prison. I'm an opiate girl myself and don't quite understand the appeal of being tweaked, but it is a very strong and powerful drug and can create a very strong mental addiction very quickly.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

3.) What method of consumption would give me best results?

Oral, sounds crazy I know, but it'll have the longest period of euphoria and a less prominent comedown. Faster acting ROAs just lead to shorter enjoyment and lots more fiending.

4.) How much should I use in one dose?

Try maybe 30-50mg to start. See where you want to go from there.

5.) I've never had a comedown on any drug but if I have one on this what will it feel like?

Dysphoria, anxiety, in general wishing you were dead to stop the self-loathing if you're like me (I vaped it though, never thought to try eating it back then). What you should expect is to be tired, unable to sleep, and not too pleasant feeling.

6.) What would help the comedown?

I just discussed this here.
7.) What is the high like?

If you have adderal, I'm guessing you've tried it...pretty damn similar to that. Euphoria, talkativeness, vastly inflated self-confidence and motivation, laser-like focus you end up putting on the wrong things, potential for anxiety, fucked up thought process while feeling more clearheaded than sober, yadda yadda.

8.) How long will the effects last?

Depends on ROA. Check out erowid's little data set, "duration" would be the enjoyable part of the high.

9.) I have some adderall, good weed, and salvia 60x. Would any of these make for a better or more memorable experience? (I love mixing as many highs as possible together)

Try it by itself first, it's always best to get to know a drug by itself first.

 

[lifeisflyingaway]

It's a huge mood lift and makes you feel amazing. I'd rather snort a few lines because the high lasts longer, smoking it is good too but shorter and a rougher comedown. By the way when your coming down you will feel like shit, to me it is the worst feeling i have ever experienced it is that bad. Unless you have benzos/weed/ or other pills to help you when your coming down

 

[clementine62]

How can you answer these questions if you have never done meth?!?

 

[Venrak]

^By doing research.

 

[Janellflyshighh]

Alrightyy I'ma answer from experience.
I always snort because when I smoke that's all I wanna do all day every day. Too addictive but if you want the highest high IV. You could always eat it too but it takes about an hour to kick in, tastes like shit, and burns your stomach.
Depending on the quality if It was my first time I wouldn't do more than 1/2 a gram over the course of 24 hours.
It's not a terrible comedown just kind of depressed, wanting more, tired, anxiety. Not as bad as heroin or benzo comedown imho
Benzos weed water and lots of Gatorade/Vitamin Water help too. And healthy food like fruit.
The high. Mmmm the high is the most amazing thing I've ever felt. Everything becomes interesting. You can get so lost in one thing that your the most focused you've ever been and when you snap out of it you have no idea what you spent the past four hours doing. Every decision you make is 100% correct and has a perfectly good reason. But you have no idea what it is. You have so much energy that you don't NEED sleep. You don't even think about food. Your in the best shape you've ever been in and can bench press a million pounds. It's just amazing. You feel freaking amazing.
The high can last anywhere from 4 hours to days depending on how much you have and how far you space doses. I wouldn't take Adderall or Salvia with it because Adderall will give you a panic attack and Salvia will make you trip the fuck out because sometimes the crystal will make you hallucinate on its own. You can smoke weed with it but I wouldn't see a need too. I'm not suggesting this but speedballs are one of the best highs you can get if you have some opiates. Hope I helped you out.