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doublep16

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Hey guys, this is my first time posting on this site and i hope you all can help me with a question that I have been needing to be answered for a long time.
To start off I am 17 years old and am an inspiring baseball player. I have been lifting since I was 13 years old with a a personal trainer so i guess you could say I know a little about lifting and it is nothing new. What I need is an edge, I have been looking into steroids for awhile not and understand some of the things about it. What my question is, what supplement should i take and whats the cycle that i should take it in? Understand that I am a Baseball player and do not want too get too big. Thanks to everyone that helps
-DP-
 
At your age, I wouldn't be messing with anything other than food.

Nobody is going to give you a suggestion about taking steroids/cycles. Eat like a horse and train right...steroids are not the answer for you right now. If you want to take supplements, take some whey with your meals. Good luck.

/V
 
Thanks,
its just hard not trying this stuff out.
I mean look what they did for A-Rod
 
Victor's advice is right.

If you want a noticeable strength increase, then directly after eating lunch and dinner every day consume a pure whey protein shake in milk. This will add much needed calories and will support some hard work in the gym lifting.

Fish oil is also an incredibly beneficial supplement. It has cognitive and cardiovascular benefits.
 
doublep16 said:
Thanks,
its just hard not trying this stuff out.
I mean look what they did for A-Rod
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You must realise that he was an increadably talented player BEFORE any use.

As others have said: Clean diet- including extra cals to support extra time at the gym, Whey- Pre/Post workout, Fish oils with every meal, etc...
 
As someone said, A-Rod was already a world-class player when he started juicing. I've never heard of steroids making the difference between someone going into the majors and someone not. All of us here understand the drive to excel, but steroids aren't the answer for you.

At this point in your career, your focus should be on skill development. Skill development. By that, I mean extra hours during the day, preferably when you have plenty of energy and can focus, on batting, fielding, throwing. Take the dollars you would spend on steroids, which you really do not need, and put them towards something or someone that will enhance skill development. If you think you have the physical training aspects covered, see a sports psychologist to enhance the mental aspects.

If you want to see the training regimen of a world-class athlete, google "Jerry Rice training" or something similar.

I'll tell you this too. Get busted with steroids now, or in the near future, since you're 17, and you can probably kiss a chance at the majors good-bye.

If you're good enough, you'll make it. If you're not, you won't. Steroids won't make the difference in this sport.

One final word: ensure that your gym time is sport-specific.

Good luck, drive hard, and see where you go. Understand you might not make the majors--and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
Heuristic said:
I've never heard of steroids making the difference between someone going into the majors and someone not.
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I saw an "outside the lines" ESPN special actually showing quite the contrary. Yes, you do have to have a lot besides just steroids, but they did put a few people over the top who couldn't have made it without the boost...pitchers who threw in mid-upper 80s who got well into the 90s and so on.

This by no means meant to encourage a 17 year old to juice it up, I'm just saying. There have been documented stories of guys who woudn't have made it without the sauce. The other tools must be present, but roids have raised below pro level players to that elite level.

Keep training and eating OP. You're very far from even thinking of having to make that decision.
 
Color me still a little skeptical KStone. Most cases I've heard about involve players already in the majors. Not saying I know you're wrong; just saying I'm skeptical.

As far as the OP... skill development, skill development, skill development. And I guarantee you that baseball is going to be a LOT less tolerant of steroid abuse, or of anyone having a history of it, going forward.
 
Ah man, big time in the minors bro! All the guys that are riiiight there, and feel they need just a TINY bit extra that don't quite have the talent, turn to the gear. You only HEAR about those in the majors getting caught or whatever because nobody cares about a AA player getting busted...it ain't newsworthy you know?
 
It would probably be newsworthy if the OP "made it big time" on the juice but was uncovered for posts he made on an internet forum about trying to find steroids back when he was 17. ;-P

By the way, you might benefit a little more from concentration aids rather than bulking aids especially since they won't effect your body composition and are legal. Check out piracetam and vinpocetine in this respect. I once read about some karate guy who said vinpocetine made his reflexes faster.
 
KStoner6tb said:
Ah man, big time in the minors bro! All the guys that are riiiight there, and feel they need just a TINY bit extra that don't quite have the talent, turn to the gear. You only HEAR about those in the majors getting caught or whatever because nobody cares about a AA player getting busted...it ain't newsworthy you know?
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I hear you KStone. I don't doubt they're used in the minors by guys desperate to push to the next level; I just doubt whether they're all that effective in this sport in terms of getting someone to the majors.

Once you can put the bat to the ball (pitchers aside), I think steroids would probably have a significant effect. But putting the bat to the ball is what you need to get you to the majors in the first place. I'm just skeptical that that kind of skill can be augmented via steroids.

I could be wrong of course. Regardless, you can bet testing is going to increase and get better over the next several years.
 
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