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Need help and info regarding 3-MEO-PCP via IM!

boida

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Yo folks pretty sure this is the correct forum for this but apologies if not, have only really just started to post, always lurked before lol :)

Anyway I need some information regarding IM dosing. Pretty much a step by step guide is what I need. Naturally I have some built in reservations about needlework in general as I never thought I'd experiment with that sort of thing but then again when I was 8 years old I claimed outright I would never smoke a cigarette in my life lol.. how things change

Anyway I was at a friends who I've not seen for a long time and I brought over a bag of MXE for us to share. Up til this point I've never seen a needle up close that wasn't being held by a nurse so I was a little intimidated. Nevertheless he has been doing this for years now and is a long time Ketamine/MXE user and he swears by IM. I stuck to snorting that night but my trip ended HOURS before his did, which was frustrating to say the least. Anyway while he was in MXE land I thought I'd have a go but I looked at his works and had no idea what I was doing with any of it and just felt a bit silly. After he came back from MXE land he got really funny about it when I asked him to show me how to do it, because he didn't want me to get in the habbit of it etc, which I understand, but it's something that I would like to try, or at least understand properly.


So anyway I (foolishly) took one of his(I know don't share) pins and the little aluminium dish thing home with me which he didn't notice and I played around with putting things in water and heating them etc to see what happens. Anyway I clearly had no idea what I was doing as a couple times I tried to boot I thought the pin was in my ass cheek, pushed the plunger and could feel the solution coming out down my butt I dunno what happened but either way I fucked it up somehow, clearly hadn't put it in far enough or something? Or even at all?? :S But yeah I did that say 2 more times and fucked it up again both times. Each time I had a kinda like big hive-like blob appear where I'd put the needle in, obviously I shat my pants and gave up on it and thought I'd fucked something right up, luckily they went away within next to no time. It was at this point I realised that I needed to stop fucking around with it until I knew what I was doing.. they are not toys!

Did a bit of asking but no one I know was able to shed much more light on the subject...Since then I have "successfully" managed to IM some camfetamine, and as far as I can tell... it worked really nicely(Foolish mistake#2. Eyeballing doses) I am aware that eyeballing doses is risky business but I only dare eyeball chems that I am very familiar and used to dealing with...MPA/Camfetamine shit like that where 1mg isn't gonna mean the difference between awesome night or early funeral...

Anyway the main reason I would like to learn to do this properly is because my nose simply cannot take anymore punishment...not for a good while atleast. I used to like the kick up the nose but it's starting to REALLY hurt now. Not just "ooo that stings a bit" - like mephedrone, or even "fuck me thats got some kick" - MPA but I'll literally do a line of camfetamine and it's fine for 2 seconds then begins the searing agony followed by me swearing profusely, doing a sort of pain dance, and then wiping the tears from my eyes. That I could probably put up with but it doesn't end there. It continues to be just as painful as it makes it's seemingly endless journey to the back of my throat. I know Camf hurts more than most and have done it plenty times in the past with no bother so I know something is up!

Anyway I have 50mg of 3-MEO-PCP coming on monday and friendy wants to pin some, now I know if I leave him in charge of it he's going to hog it, more than likely spill it as he's a clumsy fucker, or he'll manage to OD us both because he doesn't appreciate the care and preparation needed when dealing with chems that are so potent at such low doses. I tried to explain this to him but got the impression that he lacked all respect for it and thinks it's gonna be a walk in the park, and not much different from MXE or 4-MEO-PCP... this concerned me. As I put so much effort into getting the 3-MEO-PCP (not to mention paid for it) I wanna be in charge of it, I wanna know exactly how much I'm doing, and be as clued up as possible. I know 3-MEO-PCP is seriously potent and doses are 1mg jobbies, especially for a relative newbie like me when it comes to MXE/K/PCP stuff like that, I've always been a stimulant guy, and I've literally only just discovered how good these other drugs can be, and the last thing I want is to end up brown bread just because I didn't do my homework.

Firstly how's best to prepare the 3-MEO-PCP? Currently I do not have a scale to accurately measure 1mg amounts. So I figured that if I add my 50mg of 3-MEO-PCP into exactly 50mls of water that should in theory mean 1ml = 1mg right? That way I know if I draw 5mls into the syringe that would be a 5mg dose...yeah?

I apologise if these are really basic/obvious questions but I just want to make triple sure I know what I'm doing with this one so any help/tips/opinions would be greatly appreciated :)

Much love - Boida
 
Mix 3-MeO-PCP HCl with distilled water.... heat & stir until it dissolves. Filter, inject.

You do not want to IM more than 2mL of liquid, so whatever dose you're doing should fit in 1mL or 2mL. I prefer 0.5mL to 1mL.
 
My only issue is that I don't have a scale so I can't measure out my dose into the 1ml for example :/
 
Annoyingly they dont have that one on the UK site.. :( and I spent all my money on drugs...spose I'll just have to wait
 
Usually dissociative questions belong in Psychedelic Drugs but as you are more asking about IM injections and liquid dosing, which we can cover :)

First of all, do you know the right places to inject? Outer thigh and outer top of arm are good; buttocks too but you have to know the right part (or you could hit a nerve) and it's not easy on your own!!

What gauge and length needle do you have? IMing using an insulin syringe usually ends up being a subcutaneous injection instead as the needle is not long enough to read the muscle. This could be why you didn't feel much; absorption is greatly slowed.

Most importantly -are you using a micon filter? If you IM anything then this is essential really - it catches most insoluble particles (ie not the drug) and bacteria as well. IMing carries a high risk of abscess formation, and micron filters (along with careful sterile technique prepping the shot) should help reduce this. Micron megathread here :)

IMing is not a very safe ROA. It actually could be considered riskier than heroin (users shoot first and only skin pop if they can't find a vein) - with IV, the contents are swept away by the bloodstream and easily dealt with; in the muscle it sits there until it is absorbed. Muscles do have a fairly rich blood supply however. Subcutaneous tissue does not, which is why it is riskier still - although an abscess there would be easier to treat and less likely to do serious harm than one in the muscle.

The only absolutely safe thing to IM is a pharmaceutical prep in a sealed vial/container. I know RCs look like they have come from a top quality lab but there i9s no way of telling - often quite the opposite I believe - and the baggies the RCs tend to arrive in won't be sterile or airtight. I would not do it myself, I think the risks are far too great. I am not suggesting you move onto IV either (check our IV complications megathread) - have you thought about plugging (rectal administration)?
 
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