need general advice

[RJ5151]

Hello all,

This is my first post on bl, but i have been reading everything on here for months now...

I would like to ask a question and hopefully get some advice...
I am 23 years old, male, light marijuana user and moderate opiate abuser... When I was 16 I had a semi-bad trip on mushrooms, I am not sure how many I ate but i ate a big brown bag full of them, it was 20 dollars worth and i ate all of them, i remember eating at least 4 very large heads and i guess I ate the rest, anyways, the first 30 minutes was the most euphoric feeling i have ever experienced in my entire life, then shit got awry.

I was by myself, which I was told later was a bad idea, and when real hallucinations came on it scared the hell out of me, nothing serious though, just walls melting and my house flooding with milk but i thought i was gonna die. Now looking back, I would really like to do it again for that euphoric feeling, but my question is...

Since I had a bad trip does that mean that i will always have bad trips on psychedelics? Did I eat too many shrooms, if so what is a good dose, and what are some of your experiences with weaker psychedelics like shrooms. Also, what is the best "Set and Setting" in your experiences?
BTW I am completely against anything like LSD or some of the others i have read about on bl, that really scares the hell out of me.
Thanks for reading and sorry so long.

 

[RJ5151]

I just read the reminder no what did i/should i take rule on this forum and dearly hope that i did not violate this rule... To clarify I know what I took and I am not asking should I do it again... only what are your opinions on my experience and what are some of your own. If this does violate some rule, please let me know so i do not do it again in the future.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Since I had a bad trip does that mean that i will always have bad trips on psychedelics?

No, it does not mean that at all. We all have pleasant and unpleasant experiences with these drugs at some time or another. However, your desire to use it simply as a euphoriant is simply not feasible (well, it might work out but it very well might not), you have to be prepared to take the good and the bad with these drugs. If you think you're willing to risk another unpleasant experience, if you think the potential value of this drug is worth that, then yes you can give them another chance.

Also, what is the best "Set and Setting" in your experiences?

You might want to look at the B&D thread we have on this topic
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/343407-The-Big-amp-Dandy-Set-and-Setting-Thread

BTW I am completely against anything like LSD or some of the others i have read about on bl, that really scares the hell out of me

Um, why? A psychedelic is a psychedelic is a psychedelic is psychedelic. What makes shrooms okay and acid not? The way you think about things is important so you best detail the logic of your feelings (at least to yourself if not on here) and check to see if it is indeed rational.

Oh, and you may want to check out the Beginners FAQ it has plenty of links to stuff you should read if you haven't.

 

[RJ5151]

Thank you, I guess that wanting the euphoria without the trip is being a little bit greedy. And I don't know I guess I figured something that is natural is safer than a "chemical". But when you put it like that, I guess I was wrong.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Check out the classical psychs which have proven themselves rather benign from a toxicity standpoint. You can never read and inform yourself too much! Whether a chemical is synthesized in a plant/fungi or in a laboratory doesn't mean it will be more or less toxic (beware the appeal to nature, 'tis fallacious), this is determined by how an individual chemical structure acts in vivo, various receptor affinities, and blah blah blah. Moral of the story is always do your research, and enjoy yourself

 

[Flickering]

Thank you, I guess that wanting the euphoria without the trip is being a little bit greedy. And I don't know I guess I figured something that is natural is safer than a "chemical". But when you put it like that, I guess I was wrong.

Psilocybin is a chemical, and it's contained in mushrooms. So is mescaline, and it's in cacti. I've had people tell me to be safe and only take natural substances before, but it doesn't make sense - by that logic, datura is safer than LSD.

You're not stuck with bad trips, don't worry. It sounds like you had way too much and being alone wouldn't have helped. Also, mushrooms can make for quite volatile experiences; I'd consider LSD or mescaline instead if you're rebooting. I've had 2.5 consecutive bad trips and it was getting to the point where I thought I should discontinue all drug use before I lost my mind, because something in my brain didn't seem to be processing them correctly. I was fine, of course. Bad trips are just that convincing. Every trip I've had since then has been excellent.

 

[blondin]

If its euphoria your after then low dose is the way to go - 1/2 a trip would sort you out if you decide to try LSD here in the UK we only have LIberty caps (that grow in the wild) so without knowing what shrooms you had/have couldnt say what a low dose would be.
Why not just take MDMA it has to be up there with the best of them for that feeling

 

[RJ5151]

thank you for your advice. I believe that lsd may just be the way to go, how is lsd compared to shrooms?

 

[YellowNikes]

Personally I find lsd much easier to dose than shrooms, which then translates(at least for me) into a more gentle trip because i know what to expect. That being said you cant really know what to expect if you have never tripped lsd before. Honest to god i like lsd alot more than shrooms but i feel like you can get deeper/ a more spiritual trip off of shrooms than acid, acid is just funner maybe more recreational.