Opioids Need advice on stopping pain killers

[K3nnyb]

Hey guys. Great forum. I have been taking oxy30gm ir up the nose about 100mg per day and I stopped last Monday in July but had norcos 10/325 (120ct) and still took about 100 mg per day orally and it seems to work. I haven't thought about oxy that much. But now I have 4 nrocos left and have not done any today. Rather a friend gave me some really good crystal meth a mnth ago and I have t touched it today and I am wonderng if norco wd will hit me in the next couple days. The bummer is without the oxy or norco my neck hurts bad. 2 surguries on c2/c3 and c5/6 they went in through the front of my neck to put the brackets in/on my spine.

Questins srry I am with the kids on my iphne. Bad typing nubby fingers

I took a line of meth at 9am and at 4pm I am still wired as hell. Will tramdol 50mg calm me down
I am saving the 4 norco or the next couple days in case things get really bad
I have 3 50 mg tramadol and 4 bars of Xanax. Any ideas how to come out of this drug Fred and pain free?

 

[K3nnyb]

Other info. Not insured bought oxy from my guy. I might need to go the er for the pain and loss of control of my right fingers. FYI I could function on oxy well but te norcos make me a lazy bastard

 

[sekio]

You're not going to get pain free right away. 100mg of hydrocodone is a fair amount to be taking. I suggest you talk to your doctor about tapering down or a Suboxone treatment. You can also read other threads on this forum about opiate tapers. It will likely take weeks to months and will involve physiotherapy and rest before your neck feels better - don't expect that it will heal on its own.

Do not mix methamphetamine with tramadol, both act as serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors and can drastically increase your risk of seizures. A small dose of Xanax may help, but don't overdo it and black out.

 

[K3nnyb]

Thank you. Again just been takin norcos for the last 10 days and haven't had any pkers today but I did take the 50mg tramadol at 4 when I posted. I should have waited. I will let you know how it goes. I did come off oxy for 2 straight weeks and fell off the Wagon earlier in the year. After wd for 4-6 days with days 4 and 5 being the worst days. It would have helped to have benzos during that hellish period.

So if I have not taken oxy for 10 plus days but replaced it with norco for 10 days. What do you think? I only take 1/4 of a bar at bedtime. I do not have insurance but the hospital I went to afew years ago when I lost control of my arms and fingers has the mri and records when I was insured. That's when I went to Stanford to have the surgery. Dr chang (retired) was an amzing surgeon and I do not want to do another surgery with or without him. I got a bad feeling about going in a 3rd for neck surgery. If I could control my oxy use I would mind taking it but I end up taking it whether I am in pain or not. Opiates are a bitch. I having a dependency but oxy is the only drug that works long lasting and effectively. Even with the norcs my neck hurt but I dont know maybe I will need oxy the rest of my life

 

[sekio]

I personally believe opiates should never be used long-term except in pallative care settings. Why is this? Because tolerance to the painkilling effects eventually does develop. It could be after one year or after ten, but they will eventually lose efficacy, meaning that you have to keep moving to stronger opiates and enduring the numerous side effects which start to develop with long-term usage. Oxycodone will not control your pain forever, especially if you abuse it for euphoria and relaxation. It's not a sustainable treatment.

Simply replacing oxycodone with hydrocodone is a good start, but it's not enough for you to do just that. You should start reducing your dosage and finding alternate methods to cope with the pain. I'm sure a surgery is much less expensive than 10 or 20 years of purchasing illegal oxycodone, or the prison sentences which are involved with it... In the end, it is your choice, but I strongly recommend physiotherapy or surgery to control the root cause of the pain rather than masking it for many years.

 

[K3nnyb]

Thank you and I agree on the recreational use , not good for anyone. I just have a bad feeling bout someone else other than dr chang going into my neck spnne and even then I have a bad feeling about.a 3rd surgery.

I'm going to see if I can make it past my bday on the 4th and not do any opiates.

I took the 50 mg tramadol and it does nothng fo the pain.

Thanks again brother

 

[K3nnyb]

I'll give qn updated report each day as I go pretty much straght off a 60-100 mg per day habit for 1.5 years mainly taking those little blue oxy 30mg ir up the nose.

Then I am going to go to a pain mangement dr that I was reffered to by a local physician who saw me but would not prescribe oxy only norco and soma.

Most important thing is for me to see a dr and do this legit

 

[Adamkbdx]

I know exactly what you're going through, I just took myself off of morphine, lorcet, soma that I that had been taking in quality for almost ten years. Im not saying that this is the best plan for you but it did work well for me(nothing at all in 4 months). I ran out of my meds and started to detox, so I did a little bit of bath salt(mdpv). I hadn't ever tried it before but the speedy, coke-like rush actually made me forget about detoxing for the most part(didn't have anymore psych withdrawals). So I decided to pick some salt of my own and about 6 pks until I got my next script. Over the next week I took half of a norco in the am and the other half around 5pm with a small bump of salt. By day seven I ran out of both so grabbed another bottle of salt to hold me over until I could pick my script up the next day. That day wasn't too bad, I took some Advil and actually felt pretty damn good so I decided to wait until I absolutely needed meds before I was going to pick them up... that day still hasn't come. I know that you're thinking that I just traded one vice for another or probably didn't need the meds to begin with, the answer to that is no and no. I quit taking the salt everyday after about 3 weeks and only use it when im really feeling shitty and can't hardly get out of bed. As for why I needed meds, let's just say that I have been in 3 different 18wheelers wrecks and that my dr isn't some quack pm dr that writes pain mess for all of his patients. Its legit. But I did abuse and even though I thought that I wouldn't be able function without the med I now know I can. That's my story, call bs on whatever you want to but its true. This may not be the best course for you but it worked for me... hope this helps

 

[K3nnyb]

Thank you fr your perspective. I'm not sure about tje salts. I've heard they are dangerous. Anyone else know about these salts?

 

[sekio]

"Bath salts" are ueusally MDPV or some other cathinone, search the forum. There is plenty of discussion here and in BDD about them.

 

[Adamkbdx]

I feel ya man, you shouldn't do anything that you aren't comfortable with... from all of the info that i gathered (which is substantially more than most people have bc of my obcessive researching of everything that i find interesting) nobody has ever died from salt overdose (some have mixed salt and other drugs and did some dumb shit and died, but not bc of salt). most people are freaked bc they dnt know what it is cut with, i do... baking soda and ora-gel, or sometimes preparation h (sounds gross but not really harmful). i have lost so much bc of pain meds and i really hope that you are successful in quitting... i sincerely do wish you the best of luck, my friend...

 

[sekio]

People have died from MDPV overdoses alone. And there are all sorts of things used as cutting agents, everything from sugar to white pigments to benzocaine. "Bath salts" are terrible products just like "party pills" and should be avoided like the plague because their contents are not documented. Buy pure chemicals if you muist, but avoid head-shop highs for your own safety.

This thread is diverging now and seems to have run its course.