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Heroin Need advice for my opiate WD before I relapse

matthew14

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Ok, I used H 3-5 bags a day for 3-4 months approx, the first day of WD I took 50 Loperamide 2mg pills with Tonic Water and that totally took me through day 1 painlessly with no wd, got 8 hours sleep. Day 2 I used Kratom all day, no wd's, 8 hours sleep. Day 3 I used Kratom again no wd's, I also took about 8 phenibut's, but hit the bar and drank like 15 beers, got home at 2:30 am and slept till 9am. Woke up hungover but no wd, I took 1000mg - L-Tyrosine and 3 750mg DLPA's but also took about 14 Phenibut capsules throughout the day, no WD till later that evening I got a strong wave where I couldn't stop moving that lasted a couple hours. I then got about 12 hours sleep, woke up today on day 5 (today), no wd's, took 2000mg L-Tyrosine and 750mg DLPA with a redbull and now about 1 1/2 hour's later I feel really tweaked out and uncomfortable, feel like my kidney's are shutting down and I'm getting a HUGE wave of wd again. What should I do? I really feel like throwing in the towell and relapsing. How much longer will this last? I have only been getting wave's of wd now, but right now it is BAD and not going away!
 
If your kidneys are shutting down that's not good i think your putting a big strain on your body with those drugs then to drink beers on top isn't good either i mean you've already done a whole wack of withdrawal meds so you know what to take to ease withdrawals already but your always still gonna feel like crap at some point the meds just help it and make it easier than cold turkey withdrawal. If its withdrawal it will pass just gibe it some time mabye some more lope if you really think so or clonadine whatever but be careful about all the meds your taking or you could do some damage to kidneys or liver. If you think your kidneys are shutting down I'm gonna say go to the hospital there's not much we can do here.
 
As long as you're using things like kratom that activate the system your trying to release dependency from it will never end. My experience the worst symptpms are the first 3-5 days although the minor symptoms lasted a good month. No one can tell you when your w/d will end.

I'd honestly recommend taking to a doctor you can really trust about it to figure out how to manage symptoms with them.... Than again having a doctor you can trust is hard to find.
 
My kidney's ain't shutting down, just had some pain there when breathing in, it passed. And at the right dose kratom works specificly on the delta opiod receptor's thus allowing the mu-opiod receptor's to go back to normal, which is why it's way better than suboxone for wd in my opinion. I'm on day 5 and the wd's are only coming in wave's, I believe it is almost over, I hope. I drug tested myself and am clean of opiate's, for what that's worth. I actually know my shit, but alway's come on here when I'm in wd in hope's of hearing what I want to hear, lol. The last time i did withdrawal, I did a 5 day suboxone taper and the wd lasted a little over a week and I was back to normal. So this time I'm guessing I'm almost good, since I used no suboxone, and I only used kratom for about a day & 1/2, so not long enough to wd off that, any more opinions would be appreciated though.
 
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Also the WD wave is over now! I'm getting pretty hopeful because last time I went through this the withdrawal's came in wave's toward the end.. They get pretty intense though and can last a while making me think there never going to end..
 
Airways remember they will... Also remember no opiate w/d will kill you no matter how severe it feels unless it sets of a serious underlying heart condition. Benzos like klonopin, ativan, or xanax that could cause heart attacks during w/d if someone is seriously dependent on the medication requiring weening of lowering the dose bit by bit until none is needed.
 
Sounds like you glided through what might be the worst of it with very few wd symptoms. Don't give up now and have to start all over.
 
Remember those intense waves of w/d next time you feel like relapsing, you had a very minor habit and thus minor withdrawals compared to what it could have been. Remember that but imagine several orders of magnitude worse when you think about relpasing next time, which lets face it, every former addict thinks of relapsing on a pretty regular basis, especailly at first.
 
Unfortunely I already relapsed, I used 2 bag's tonight and I'm going to use 3 tomorrow then stop, since I fully detoxed the opes in the 5 day's though I do not think I will wd again, and if I do I know it will be short and not as intense since the previous ope's were out of my system. I have done that before in the past and did not withdrawal again, so I really hope it works out this time, I know it can happen quicker every time. And once again sorry for the 2 topics... I used to use 3 day's on and 4 off and never got withdrawal's, I know I'm playing with fire, hopefully I don't get burnt..
 
Unfortunely I already relapsed, I used 2 bag's tonight and I'm going to use 3 tomorrow then stop, since I fully detoxed the opes in the 5 day's though I do not think I will wd again, and if I do I know it will be short and not as intense since the previous ope's were out of my system. I have done that before in the past and did not withdrawal again, so I really hope it works out this time, I know it can happen quicker every time. And once again sorry for the 2 topics... I used to use 3 day's on and 4 off and never got withdrawal's, I know I'm playing with fire, hopefully I don't get burnt..

lol man do not kid yourself, you probably werent even half way threw your wd. first day you took 100mg lope which will last almost 72 hours and then on top of that kratom and you were sleeping normally. you basically didnt even withdraw much at all, and you using for 2 days only after 5 days clean with tons of lope and kratom will completely set the withdrawal back to stage 1. next time just trying using lowest amount of kratom possible to get some relief and then taper down. Cant dodge the pain
 
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