Need a replacement for mdma, dexedrine + ketamine?

[yabadaba]

Hi all,

I have been using MDMA for some time now and feel it's time to be sensible and switch it up and take a break for a few months, although I need a little something to replace it for a few months to rave for several hours, I know nothing is going to match what I'm looking for but i'm trying to find a combo that can keep me dancing, social, and euphoric for 6 hours.
I've had both dexedrine(15mg) and ketamine separately although not in a club setting.

I'm wondering if a large dose of dexedrine(maybe 40mg?) and small bumps of ketamine (50mg) throughout the night would be a good combo(probably a few drinks too although i know dex kind of counteracts it), also what is a safe amount of dex to take in 1 night? I've never tried pure speed but willing to try most things out if anyone has any recommendations for what I'm looking for?

Thanks,

 

[laCster]

Hey man its against bluelight rules to ask how to get a better high, or combo man..

Dex and mdma and especially ket are some hardcore Drugs . Try doing them separately combining drugs is risky and I ha e any friends thT have died from combining drugs. Hell I overdosed on oxycodone and valium marijuana, hydroxyzine, and alcohol

 

[Doctor_Ew420]

Hell, I overdosed on a plethora of CNS depressants (ya don't say!?!?!)

So.... disregard that (LOL!)

Without breaking rules, ketamine is a fantastic drug on its own. Do you really need the stimulant?

Ketamine is not a 'hardcore' drug, it is a very safe drug in the right setting without having taken CNS depressants. People dance all night on meth + ketamine and they almost always go home feeling fine. Of course combining drugs is not ideal, but personally I think with the right knowledge, the mixture you speak of is rather safe. I can't say for sure if it would be enjoyable though, I would personally just take the ketamine.

 

[yabadaba]

hey, sorry I didn't realize it was against the rules. I guess maybe I should be comparing which of the two drugs to take rather than both...?

I have felt the euphoric aspect of Ketamine in low doses but only for a brief while, although i also kind of felt disassociated with others. I've only experimented with it at home so not sure if it would also keep me sociable in another setting? obviously experiences are pretty subjective to your surroundings so I'm just wondering if its enough of a party drug to replace mdma for me when I'm out which i really enjoy but I know I need to back off it for a few months.

So what's K like in a social setting, can you still communicate with people effectively at lower doses?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Wait wait wait.

Ketamine AND dexedine at the same time?

You're going to be in for some mighty dangerous shit using those two at once. Firstly it will potentiate the dexedrine to a vast extent. It also lowers the seizure threshold to an extent too. Dexedrine at high doses causes seizures. You're essentially putting two drugs together that are definitely not meant for one another. God this a stupid idea, please someone else back me up with this.

Not only this - if you're K holing ontop of a dexedrine buzz, I can't begin to imagine the mental distress that would cause. (If you don't have a seizure that is). Your dopamine levels will be absolutely flooded, and there's probably an issue of neurotoxicity that will arise too from this.

Also - dexedrine has a diuretic effect on the body. Ketamine has retentive properties. The only reason you can "Kandy-flip" relatively safely is because MDMA doesn't have such a profound effect on dopamine as amphetamines.


Take them separately.

If you're looking for a social buzz drug and aren't concerned about the damage you're doing (and are insistent on doing one or the other) I suggest dexedrine. Ketamine is OK but you'll lose a lot of social skills when you start taking higher doses.

 

[laCster]

Ketamine is not a 'hardcore' drug, it is a very safe drug in the right setting without having taken CNS depressants. People dance all night on meth + ketamine and they almost always go home feeling fine. Of course combining drugs is not ideal, but personally I think with the right knowledge, the mixture you speak of is rather safe. I can't say for sure if it would be enjoyable though, I would personally just take the ketamine.

lolol, ketamine is a pretty hard drug, ask a random person on the street for some and they will be like omg wtf. i have shot up ketamine and been in intense k-hole where i thought i ws the chosen one from the pyramid alien. thats pretty hardcore. i think marijuana is not a hard drug and most pills arent hard drugs. vicodin is givn out like candy in the US so many people are not that sketched by hydrocodone. opana on the other hand, is hard.

next meth and ketamine is not a safe mixture! dopamine psychosis will likely happen from meths fucking ridiculous dopamine-release, and ketamine is a potent dopamine reuptake inhibitor . downreglution of NMDAr also increase dopamine production by up-regulating dopamine receptors.

 

[Reaper182]

If you are looking for something that will give you energy and make you euphoric-this may sound like a stupid suggestion-but have you thought of coke? Many people drink (in moderation) with coke and in appropriate doses it can be enjoyable for a rave

 

[yabadaba]

Ok point made i wknt do them together thanks all. I hadn't actually thought of coke as generally I find it bad value for money for a limited effect and your allways kind of chasing the high and no amount of coke is ever enough, although I think your right I'm probably going to go for coke as it will keep me sociable with other people as everyone else will be on mdma so although i think ill have a good time on ket it will be kind of an unsociable time conpared to coke Many thanks.

 

[Spliff Politics]

I have combined ketamine MANY times with stimulants (MDMA, mephedrone, methamphetamine, amphetamine) and have never come across any sort of problem, always just a good time. Infact it has even helped balance me out when the residue stimulation was getting a bit annoying.