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ND Trois - New experience

zamzams

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I'd been out the night before and had ended up doing some very weak ketamine a friend had with her, had only slept for about 4 hours by the time i woke up. Woke up still tired & looking for a pick me up and decided to give this stuff a go, Have a 1g bag of powder.

Started off with a 1mg allergy test. The powder is very fine white powder, smelt of strawberrys.
After an hour everything was fine, had a couple small dabs. taste reminded me of m-butylone and strawberrys, very sharp and bitter taste.

T +0 take a small bomb of 50mg
T +0:15 snort a small amount 20mg - hurts exactly like m-butylone a very sharp sting followed by watery eyes. Decide not to go this ROA again.
T +0:30 start to feel the line i had, feeling is exactly like m-butylone, very clear headed thoughts. slight caffeine like buzz.
T +1 still feel the same so take a 100mg bomb
T +1:30 start to feel quite heavy eyed now. effects creeping up slowly. notice that the clear headedness is being overtaken by a feeling of deep relaxation and a warm soft floating buzz. decide to listen to some music. End up getting some old vinyl out, cleaning my records and start recording it to mp3. music appreciation is heightened as is ability to hold conversations.
T +2 started getting waves of mild euphoria followed by jaw clensing and mild nystagmus. Start to feel mildly empathic like a low dose of mdma. Have also got extremely dry mouth.
T +4 Peak is gradually wearing off now, no sudden comedown or loss of background buzz
T +6 all effects have almost subsided now and i start to sweat heavily, decide to redose again but end up getting side tracked listening to music.
T +7 redose again with 200mg. Effects same as before around an hour to come up, a peak of a couple of hours, more gurning, vision affected (ability to focus decreases along with nystagmus similar to mdma.)
T +11 effects from the last bomb are wearing off. Decide to have a bit of ket for the comedown, have ~10mg of extremely strong ketamine effects last roughly an hour. The combined effects actually sent me to lovely warm cocoon like state where i was sat in a bubble.
T +15 Effects of the ket wear off, vision is still affected but i feel no stimulation. Smoked a small joint which made me trip, however the weed is normaly bush not skunk. stick the tv on but within minutes i fall asleep.

Woke up around 10am after getting to sleep around 5am. Still tired but with an afterglow, went back to bed until 1pm.

Mood is fine today but feel quite lethargic and achy, body load is moderate with this stuff, similar to a night out on MDxx.

All in all compared to my m-butylone experience, this one was a lot better, i don't seem to be getting much euphoria off anything these days post mcat use, even mdma gives me very little euphoria these days. I would be interested to find out how others with low tolerance to stims find this stuff. I wasn't concerned by my heart rate with this stuff like i was with other unknowns. Effects were still low-moderate for the doses i took but i do seem to have a high tolerance of stims. no nasty side effects felt whilst on it, I did sweat a lot on the come down though.

This stuff is definitely best when taken in one full dose rather than small bits/lines.

I'd estimate 200mg to be a moderate dose that lasts 5 hours, however just like with m-butylone the next day i was lethargic and achy but nowhere near as bad this could be due to having not had much sleep or food over the weekend.

Was able to eat food fine the following day, mouth wasn't sore like i get with MDMA, usually eating anything the day after doing MDMA i find it burns the roof of my mouth, however this stuff was fine, no aching jaw either or headaches.

as i suspect this stuff has m-butylone in there as part of a mix i would stay away from alchohol with this stuff. those two i combined previously led it killing the effects. I had one beer whilst on it which resulted in me getting extremely dry mouth. I felt the need to stay well hydrated on this stuff as it seems to dehydrate me a lot more than mdma does.
 
WTF is "ND trois"? is this a beta ketone amphetamine or some nickname for an unknown that u think may b m-butylone whatever m-butylone is that is?
 
It's Neo Doves (3rd generation) - probably a cocktail of chemicals. Had some SCD a while ago as an alternative to meph as one of my mates didn't like the habitual redosing/vasoconstriction meph caused. he bought quite a few caps of those that we tested out.
When the ban came in, a wide range of beta keytones were made illegal which must have made the contents of their last gen range illegal and now this is their latest legal range (3rd Gen).
As before no one knows what it is until someone GC/MS tests it which i'd be interested in finding out.

M-butylone is a product London Underground brought out - i've only seen it in powder form but definitely recognised the chemical taste and effects when i tried snorting some of this stuff.
This ND Trois stuff has another chemical to it though. Something more similar to mdma but shorter lasting similar to the SCD i tried before.
This stuff lasted a bit longer for me , wasn't as quick on the come up and come down but that could be due to me staggering some of my doses to start with and topping up later on.

Am starting to wonder if they're going to produce stuff similar to 6-apb as there are two new ones coming out soon, if they're an improvement on this ND trois they might be worth testing.
 
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