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Nbome vs. Lsd

BenzosBudOrBooty

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My friend claims that NBOME is just as equally good as LSD. And cheaper. So it's better to get NBOME than LSD. What are your thoughts? I've only done LSD and don't plan on trying NBOME. But if NBOME is really just as good as acid, than maybe I will. But I don't believe him. I'm making this thread to settle this argument. He claims that anyone whos done NBOME thinks its just as worth it or more worth it than acid. Your thoughts...
 
There is no answer. It's all subjective. Now lets release the LSD enthusiasts on this thread, shall we?
 
Here we come. In my opinion, NBOMe's are shit. The taste in my mouth is revolting, I feel like I have the flu, the visuals are boring compared to classic or even "RC" tryptamines/PEAs, compounded with the boring visuals is a lack of introspective/spiritual headspace, as others on here have said the psychedelia feels boring/fake, it's possible to die. doesn't last as long, etc.

I just don't see how someone could say any NBOMe is better than LSD. In my opinion, the fact that LSD hits many more receptors gives it an automatic win in terms of effects felt.
 
It's all subjective it's true, but most who have had their share of both would disagree with your friend.
LSD tends to be more mentally profound and has a vastly superior (physical) safety profile and tolerance isn't such a bitch with it. The nbome has more prominent visuals without really ripping open your head and letting all the insanity out, the audio effects are pretty nice too.
 
Yeah, the main thing that makes LSD better is the safety profile. LSD has been around for almost a century, a lot of science has been done on it, and nobody has died from it. None of that can be said for NBOMe compounds.
 
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It's definitely subjective, but I'd say that 95% of people who have had good, clean acid and also an NBOMe, would absolutely disagree with your friend about the NBOMe's being "better".

To be completely blunt, LSD25 is eons more majestic, beautiful and insightful than 25i or any of those nasty RC's I've unfortunately eaten.

I've had a good time a couple times on 25i, but the trip is just very shallow and there's not much to it at all that I'd deem beneficial..and then we had some real, real bad times on 25i, and since then I have stayed as far away from NBOMe's as possible.

LSD while also being completely awesome because of it's flowing visuals, has also taught me things I've integrated into my sober life and grown from. The trip on 25i is so menacing in it's thought looping that nothing productive comes out of it, to me I came to the conclusion that all it really does is "make shit cool to look at" ..and turn your head to dark, psychotic place.

So long story short, LSD over NBOMe's and I honestly feel bad for anyone that feels otherwise

*edit* going back and reading the replies to this thread for the first time ..I'm glad Im not the only one who feels the NBOMe trip is bland and useless, and lacks soul/spirit
 
I don't quite get the "nastyness". Taken sublingually yes it tastes funky, it numbs your mouth, and 20 minutes seems like forever. It kinda numbs your teeth and gums it you move it around a bit.

Spit it out and it is still there but only for a few moments. Brush your teath, eat something very simple like a bannana or a bit of fruit and the taste is gone. Everyone is different, but IMO, having a clear mind and wearing a shit eating grin seems so close to MDMA to me. For wahtever reason I liken it more to MDMA then LSD if it is kept at small doses. SUre it also has some fantastic visuals but for me..... for me it all about the body high that comes with this tiny lil compound. It makes me feel INCREADIBLE, like a million bucks, like singing like dancing like walking like talking like moving andd groving all at the same time.

Also my wife describes sexual activies as "balancing her body on my toung" A fantastic and fun experience. There is nothing like a warm oil body massage on this stuff, On a hot summer day, ( just recently) my wife and I indulged in this. There is something quite fantastic about watching rainbow like patterns danceing across your loved ones body. Rainbows of color escaping through the dark pulled blinds in a bedroom. At one point my wife said I had become like a cartoon character. I couldn't tell if that was a slight or a compliment. It was a compliment. Sex is an odity on this substance, at times I felt like I was weilding a baseball bat, too hard and long for my wife to bear at times. Thats OK, I try to be gentle, and patient. She really preffered foreplay this last time. It was the first time I actually became aroused whilst peaking, it was very odd.

Music is great but coming into a trip outside listening to birds get louder and louder, watching as the patterns emerge slowly in the warmth of a sunny day. It was really quite perfect, but then again, I have kind of removed doubts when it comes to my batch of 25I.

BUT.... i have tested it, and I know exactly what I have infront of me, certain confidences in that ease me into that first hour.

LSD is still a chemical, a substance that your body is reacting to. Mushrooms always made me feel nauseous, for that first hour. E always made me feel just a lil strange as I came into my first rolls. 25I may be nasty to some, but clearly it is quite pleaseant for others. I loved LSD when I was in colledge, but I really don't need to get all spiritual and deep, I just need to unwind everyonce in a blue moon. Can I say I probably liked liquid a bit more? sure I did but it still felt like a chemical, mushrooms felt like a poision.

25I falls more into an old school raver drug for me. Maybe my body is just used to that feeling and deals with it better then others. Maybe I am just chemically more suited to it.

25I is not just like LSD though, nor is it by any means better. It is simply different, LSD is an original psychadelic. Derived from Ergot, easily traced back to issues of paranoia in the air like the Salem whitch trials. It is a potent mind altering substance, and it can lead to a intense body high. But it is mainly existing in ones mind. The mind is aplayground on LSD. 25I is a modern 100% man made substance, used as a tracer. It takes a tiny miniscule amount of a phenelphetamine and attaches it to the brain tracer so it deposits itself directly to a sweet spot. Many complaine about a body load about the hot and cold. For me these is just warmth, warmth that can almost become uncomfortable, due to the sweating, yet it feels so good.
 
I enjoy them both in different ways...they are different trips! vastly different in my opinion.

I've laughed harder than i've ever laughed in my entire life on 25c-nbome,

however i've experienced the true glow and kindness of the human spirit whilst on LSD.

Lsd can go deeper, but also seems less intense in some aspects...whereas 25c deosn't scuba dive you deep mentally, but the initial hit of an insufflated 25c dose combusts into vivid patternized phenethlyamine visuals and intense energy very usful for hiking, climbing, dancing....

you might as well compare 5-meo-mipt or something to lsd because they're all different!


edit: I can hit on women much better on 25i-nbome than lsd.... keep that in mind haha!
 
Thats the thing, 25I seems to mimick MDMA in the social fun loving talkyness of life. I agree thoughts seem to flow so very well, you feel dapper and defined as a man. My wife feels more comfortable letting go of her inhibitions and is up to try pretty much anything. There are some moments of hilarity, I got transfixed on her nipples at one point and she kinda wound up playfully slapping me away, because it just got to be too much at one point.

Walking around in the afterglow of the trip, when the visuals were still there was increadible. The Burbs aint as exciting as the city, but quiet Saturday nights with the sweet smell of summers blooms and warmth in the air is EXHILERATING. We walked by a bonfire and breifly thought about walking over to the kids, but thought better of it. Given my altered state I may have seemed to strange. To me a bonfire is an invitation, but I may have seemed odd. Fireflies glittered in the trees above us, gotta love that magical feeling of summer.

It was the first time I really immersed myself in a day trip on 25I. When we were outside there was a degree of parental fear. I mean we are parents, and our neighbors are often about and social, but we sat on our back patio, in a secluded spot. We do have a privacy fence, but My wife kept telling me I had to work on my sober face if we were going to stay outside.
 
There is no answer. It's all subjective. Now lets release the LSD enthusiasts on this thread, shall we?

Yes there is an answer. LSD to keep it simple has never directly killed anyone. But I guess that's subjective too.
 
But if you aren't safe and alive to feel it there can't be a contest, and considering reports of random people dying/nearly dying off a milligram... And no way to tell, there just can't be a contest. Plus heavy vasoconstriction and chest pain reported by people on 25Xs... I don't experience anything near it on LSD. You can trip LSD when you are 90. I wouldn't try 25X is you are 90.

Safety should be first. Take care of yourself first, to have fun. So you can continue to have fun.

25D felt like I was test piloting some early stage/version of a rocket ship. It didn't feel polished. It didn't feel safe. And like there were leaks. Not to say it wasn't usable. My experience is limited to 25D.
 
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He claims that anyone whos done NBOME thinks its just as worth it or more worth it than acid. Your thoughts...

Most people who have done both, when given a choice between the two, will always choose LSD. There are some people who prefer NBOMe though (and price is usually their reasoning). All in all though, IME, LSD is a better experience. 25i and 25c just seem 'hollow' to me, like a video game that's all flash and doesn't quite hold my attention for long.
 
I could never compare an NBOMe trip to an LSD trip.
There are a lot of similarities, but the feel of the NBOMe isn't even close to as good to that of LSD.
As well LSD has a fantastic track record regarding saftey, the NBOMe's have already proven themselves dangerous in the few years they have been on the market.
As an above poster said however its all subjective, such as for me liking 2ce perhaps more than lsd
 
lsd as previously mentioned, is more well researched & generally more of a 'wholesome' experience subjectively. Most of my time with dox & nbome chems have proven to me that there are pretty grave differences between the two, obviously.. 25c in particular never did the job right for me & always had a nasty bodyload. To each their own though blah bla
 
I don't quite get the "nastyness". Taken sublingually yes it tastes funky, it numbs your mouth, and 20 minutes seems like forever. It kinda numbs your teeth and gums it you move it around a bit.

Spit it out and it is still there but only for a few moments. Brush your teath, eat something very simple like a bannana or a bit of fruit and the taste is gone. Everyone is different, but IMO, having a clear mind and wearing a shit eating grin seems so close to MDMA to me. For wahtever reason I liken it more to MDMA then LSD if it is kept at small doses. SUre it also has some fantastic visuals but for me..... for me it all about the body high that comes with this tiny lil compound. It makes me feel INCREADIBLE, like a million bucks, like singing like dancing like walking like talking like moving andd groving all at the same time.

Also my wife describes sexual activies as "balancing her body on my toung" A fantastic and fun experience. There is nothing like a warm oil body massage on this stuff, On a hot summer day, ( just recently) my wife and I indulged in this. There is something quite fantastic about watching rainbow like patterns danceing across your loved ones body. Rainbows of color escaping through the dark pulled blinds in a bedroom. At one point my wife said I had become like a cartoon character. I couldn't tell if that was a slight or a compliment. It was a compliment. Sex is an odity on this substance, at times I felt like I was weilding a baseball bat, too hard and long for my wife to bear at times. Thats OK, I try to be gentle, and patient. She really preffered foreplay this last time. It was the first time I actually became aroused whilst peaking, it was very odd.

Music is great but coming into a trip outside listening to birds get louder and louder, watching as the patterns emerge slowly in the warmth of a sunny day. It was really quite perfect, but then again, I have kind of removed doubts when it comes to my batch of 25I.

BUT.... i have tested it, and I know exactly what I have infront of me, certain confidences in that ease me into that first hour.

LSD is still a chemical, a substance that your body is reacting to. Mushrooms always made me feel nauseous, for that first hour. E always made me feel just a lil strange as I came into my first rolls. 25I may be nasty to some, but clearly it is quite pleaseant for others. I loved LSD when I was in colledge, but I really don't need to get all spiritual and deep, I just need to unwind everyonce in a blue moon. Can I say I probably liked liquid a bit more? sure I did but it still felt like a chemical, mushrooms felt like a poision.

25I falls more into an old school raver drug for me. Maybe my body is just used to that feeling and deals with it better then others. Maybe I am just chemically more suited to it.

25I is not just like LSD though, nor is it by any means better. It is simply different, LSD is an original psychadelic. Derived from Ergot, easily traced back to issues of paranoia in the air like the Salem whitch trials. It is a potent mind altering substance, and it can lead to a intense body high. But it is mainly existing in ones mind. The mind is aplayground on LSD. 25I is a modern 100% man made substance, used as a tracer. It takes a tiny miniscule amount of a phenelphetamine and attaches it to the brain tracer so it deposits itself directly to a sweet spot. Many complaine about a body load about the hot and cold. For me these is just warmth, warmth that can almost become uncomfortable, due to the sweating, yet it feels so good.

I've done a load of research before, But never tried it :(. Great to hear your story though, Some really good points made and great examples.
 
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