Naked Teen Found Lying In Street Yelling ‘Bad Drugs’

Of course not. he probably did nothing wrong, but whats done is done. shit like this happens everyday, and you can bet he's going to think twice about using drugs in the future, and as for the driver, lets hope they find his ass, but i imagine this will be forgotten like any other news story because no one is going to do shit. its a learning experience and atleast one person will learn from it.
 
is there anyone here who knows anyone that's capable of driving off after hitting a pedestrian? I ask because I can't understand why it's so common, as it seems unimaginably cruel. Yet, every day I seem to hear about another hit and run in my city. Which means that they're being done not by psychopathic killers, but by normal people. How is that possible? It's like discovering that every one of your friends is secretly a raper of babies.

Seriously, the newspapers are even making a point of stating "the driver did not flee the scene of the crash" on the rare occasions when an accident doesn't result in a hit and run.
 
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Seriously, the newspapers are even making a point of stating "the driver did not flee the scene of the crash" on the rare occasions when an accident doesn't result in a hit and run.
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fuck thats so sick. there really are fuckedd up people around x/
 
I think a lot of people are ignorant about potential consequences. I'm not sure why I say this, but I suspect that a lot of drivers would instantly assume that they are to blame and will therefore end up going to jail for manslaughter even if they have done nothing wrong. And, it probably happens a lot. Innocent drivers doing time for the negligence of pedestrians.

If there are no witnesses and somebody walks out into traffic from a blind spot at night time, leaving the driver less than a reasonable amount of time to stop or swerve, how do you determine whether or not the driver is partly to blame? Sure there are forensic tests they can do, but - in a court of law - who knows what's going to happen? Especially if you have priors for drink driving or running a couple of red lights or something.

The way the legal system is structured, it scares weak willed people into fleeing the scene. I wouldn't do it. I don't even drive. But I can comprehend the psychology leading up to a spur of the moment hit-and-run decision. People probably justify it to themselves by thinking the victim is already as good as dead; and there's no point ruining two lives.

People don't take driving seriously enough, as it is. It astonishes me how many people blatantly speed and do dangerous stunts - risking their own and everybody else's lives - in order to cut one minute from their travel time. As a lifelong pedestrian, I always assume that drivers are going to do the wrong thing; if I didn't, I would be dead already.

I don't think most people should be allowed to drive. There should be much harsher rules. If you've received more than two speeding fines, you shouldn't ever be allowed to get behind the wheel again. Something like that. I don't know. People just don't take the dangers seriously. Not to mention the damage to the environment.

Most of us can get by via public transport. It's difficult to justify owning and operating a car, these days, as far as I'm concerned. There appears to be no consideration, whatsoever, in terms of conserving fossil fuels.

It baffles me.
 
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^As a lifelong pedestrian myself I have to agree. I treat cars and drivers like they are guided missiles that could go off at any minute.

The most fucked up thing though is that IME almost everybody thinks of themselves as being good drivers. I had this one friend who has been in 4 accidents in his life time (all but one of them were minor fender benders) 3 of which were his fault. And yet every time I commented on his shitty driving he insisted that he is a great driver. A lot of people don't realize that they are moving a lot of weight around at potentially lethal speeds. They think that because they can drive at unsafe speeds and not hit anybody most of the time it makes them "good" drivers. But no it just makes them dangerous inconsiderate assholes.
 
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^you don't know how many times I've thought about going Bronson on speeders. I don't mean the people who do it maybe by accident on the highways. I mean the fucks who drive mustangs at 70+ mph through residential neighborhoods.

By the way:

Woman Shot Dead after Confronting Speeder in Neighborhood

(MOBILE, Ala.) - A woman has died after being shot during an argument with a driver speeding through her neighborhood in Mobile on Racine Avenue.

Mobile Polices say 40-year-old Wendy Fisher died after being transported to USA Medical Center with a life-threatening gunshot to the chest.

Witnesses say Fisher confronted a car speeding down her street after it almost hit her dog. Police say three to four black males were inside the car, and one of them opened fire, striking North in the chest.

Local 15 talked to a witness, who now wants her name withheld, who drove by the argument and then looked back to see gunfire erupt.

“I looked back and saw a young man who had a gun, he had the [car] door partway open and hew was just opening fire,” the witness told Local 15. “We kind of ducked down in the car to avoid getting hit. There were several shots, probably four or five that were fired.”

The witness said after the shooter’s car sped off, she got of her own car and ran to the woman’s aid.

“She was… in shock,” the witness said. “She didn’t lose consciousness before the ambulance got here.”

No arrests have been made. Police are looking for three to four black males last seen speeding away in a vehicle, possibly a Honda Civic, with dark tint.

A fatal hit-and-run happened on the same street earlier in the week, but police say the two incidents are not connected.

Neighbors said speeding drivers cutting through their neighborhood has been an increasing problem.
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http://www.local15tv.com/news/custo...onting-Speeder-in/okYuHbQ4JE6sGT8HohbH5w.cspx
 
ForEverAfter said:
I think a lot of people are ignorant about potential consequences. I'm not sure why I say this, but I suspect that a lot of drivers would instantly assume that they are to blame and will therefore end up going to jail for manslaughter even if they have done nothing wrong. And, it probably happens a lot. Innocent drivers doing time for the negligence of pedestrians.

If there are no witnesses and somebody walks out into traffic from a blind spot at night time, leaving the driver less than a reasonable amount of time to stop or swerve, how do you determine whether or not the driver is partly to blame? Sure there are forensic tests they can do, but - in a court of law - who knows what's going to happen? Especially if you have priors for drink driving or running a couple of red lights or something.

The way the legal system is structured, it scares weak willed people into fleeing the scene. I wouldn't do it. I don't even drive. But I can comprehend the psychology leading up to a spur of the moment hit-and-run decision. People probably justify it to themselves by thinking the victim is already as good as dead; and there's no point ruining two lives.

People don't take driving seriously enough, as it is. It astonishes me how many people blatantly speed and do dangerous stunts - risking their own and everybody else's lives - in order to cut one minute from their travel time. As a lifelong pedestrian, I always assume that drivers are going to do the wrong thing; if I didn't, I would be dead already.

I don't think most people should be allowed to drive. There should be much harsher rules. If you've received more than two speeding fines, you shouldn't ever be allowed to get behind the wheel again. Something like that. I don't know. People just don't take the dangers seriously. Not to mention the damage to the environment.

Most of us can get by via public transport. It's difficult to justify owning and operating a car, these days, as far as I'm concerned. There appears to be no consideration, whatsoever, in terms of conserving fossil fuels.

It baffles me.
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i agree to every single syentence of your post. couldtn have said it better.
drivers should really know theyre sitting in a potentially deadly weapon.


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I never said he deserved what he got. I never said i never was reckless. Im saying that people need to accept responsibility for their reckless actions and stop blaming naivety and ignorance. He obviously didnt have a sitter, was not in a safe environment and took an unknown (now known as huge) risk ingesting substances. He got the short end of the stick and did not practice harm reduction as it appears. Im saying he got what he got because of his actions (you walk on train tracks you might get hit, dont walk on the tracks and you lower the risk). He got dealt a shitty hand (ba drug combo) AND played it poorly (lack of harm reduction). Anyone whos played spades knows that even with a shitty hand, if you play it safe things wont end up being too bad.
 
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I never said he deserved what he got.
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Yes, you did.

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Its "pharmaceutical-darwinism". If youre dumb enough/uneducated enough to do irresponsible using, you deserve the consequences.
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You can pretend like you didn't. But it's right there, in black and white. What you wrote was completely inappropriate. Your "mother fucka" and "dumbass" have no place in a discussion about a kid who has been run over by a car. If you're going to post in threads about serious topics in the future and/or make comments about people who've been seriously injured, I'd suggest doing so in a serious manner. Skip the bad rhymes and the schoolyard gangster shit. Most importantly, don't make wild assumptions and then blame victims of violent crimes.

Thanks.
 
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ForEverAfter said:
I think a lot of people are ignorant about potential consequences. I'm not sure why I say this, but I suspect that a lot of drivers would instantly assume that they are to blame and will therefore end up going to jail for manslaughter even if they have done nothing wrong. And, it probably happens a lot. Innocent drivers doing time for the negligence of pedestrians.

If there are no witnesses and somebody walks out into traffic from a blind spot at night time, leaving the driver less than a reasonable amount of time to stop or swerve, how do you determine whether or not the driver is partly to blame? Sure there are forensic tests they can do, but - in a court of law - who knows what's going to happen? Especially if you have priors for drink driving or running a couple of red lights or something.

The way the legal system is structured, it scares weak willed people into fleeing the scene. I wouldn't do it. I don't even drive. But I can comprehend the psychology leading up to a spur of the moment hit-and-run decision. People probably justify it to themselves by thinking the victim is already as good as dead; and there's no point ruining two lives.

People don't take driving seriously enough, as it is. It astonishes me how many people blatantly speed and do dangerous stunts - risking their own and everybody else's lives - in order to cut one minute from their travel time. As a lifelong pedestrian, I always assume that drivers are going to do the wrong thing; if I didn't, I would be dead already.

I don't think most people should be allowed to drive. There should be much harsher rules. If you've received more than two speeding fines, you shouldn't ever be allowed to get behind the wheel again. Something like that. I don't know. People just don't take the dangers seriously. Not to mention the damage to the environment.

Most of us can get by via public transport. It's difficult to justify owning and operating a car, these days, as far as I'm concerned. There appears to be no consideration, whatsoever, in terms of conserving fossil fuels.

It baffles me.
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I grudgingly agree with most of this. I don't know how successful anybody would be in justifying their actions to themselves. I suspect a lot of them come very close to living out the last scene of Mulholland Dr.

For some reason I thought you were Never Knows Best
 
ForEverAfter said:
I think a lot of people are ignorant about potential consequences. I'm not sure why I say this, but I suspect that a lot of drivers would instantly assume that they are to blame and will therefore end up going to jail for manslaughter even if they have done nothing wrong. And, it probably happens a lot. Innocent drivers doing time for the negligence of pedestrians.

If there are no witnesses and somebody walks out into traffic from a blind spot at night time, leaving the driver less than a reasonable amount of time to stop or swerve, how do you determine whether or not the driver is partly to blame? Sure there are forensic tests they can do, but - in a court of law - who knows what's going to happen? Especially if you have priors for drink driving or running a couple of red lights or something.

The way the legal system is structured, it scares weak willed people into fleeing the scene. I wouldn't do it. I don't even drive. But I can comprehend the psychology leading up to a spur of the moment hit-and-run decision. People probably justify it to themselves by thinking the victim is already as good as dead; and there's no point ruining two lives.

People don't take driving seriously enough, as it is. It astonishes me how many people blatantly speed and do dangerous stunts - risking their own and everybody else's lives - in order to cut one minute from their travel time. As a lifelong pedestrian, I always assume that drivers are going to do the wrong thing; if I didn't, I would be dead already.

I don't think most people should be allowed to drive. There should be much harsher rules. If you've received more than two speeding fines, you shouldn't ever be allowed to get behind the wheel again. Something like that. I don't know. People just don't take the dangers seriously. Not to mention the damage to the environment.

Most of us can get by via public transport. It's difficult to justify owning and operating a car, these days, as far as I'm concerned. There appears to be no consideration, whatsoever, in terms of conserving fossil fuels.

It baffles me.
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I think you said it very well.

For me, as a lifelong bicyclist, I have learned to pretend that all drivers are drunk, and I am invisible.
Otherwise, I would have been a squashed bicyclist a long time ago.
 
I meant it as he deserves the possibility of consequences my friend. Unfortunately people who are reckless will die and thats how nature differentiates between the "fit" and the "unfit". Whether its the gazelle that strays away from the herd or an individual who is careless with substance abuse. If there were no consequences wed see a lot more reckless, careless, and overall "unevolved" behavior. Bet he wont do the same thing again though so the kid still made out in a sense. If he died, his "unfit genetics" would not be passed on and the risk of careless youngins he may spawn is eliminated. Since he lived he can spread the knowledge of what he went through to prevent others from doing the same thing. Win-win.
 
And obviously you seem more butthurt then the kid who had 2 tons of steel rammed into his ass. Please bud. Youre getting all defensive as if i ran your kid over. Its simply my viewpoint. Youre telling me i should view things your way and show respect yet you dont show my viewpoint respect? So we can agree to disagree then. And if you get all pissy because of my lighthearted nature, you have more problems than this kid who got plowed by the car. So ill be the bigger man and walk away from this one.
 
If I ever have to go to court, I hope they don't get you to represent me. No offense, but your understanding of Darwinism is unimpressive - to say the least. The "gazelle straying from the herd" comment made me laugh out loud, though. So, thanks for that.

You said he deserved to be hit by a car. Then you said denied saying it. Now you're saying it again... ?

I've done reckless things. I've used drugs irresponsibly. I am lucky to still be alive. Do I deserve to die? I mean, how does chance play into your pharmaceutical Darwinism theory? Like if the driver had been going five miles an hour faster, and the kid had therefore died - wouldn't that imply that the kid's genes were less "fit" according to your theory? How is it possible for the speed of a car, and the recklessness of the driver, and a million other factors, to alter the victims genetic make-up?

It's "win-win" because he either dies or he doesn't die?

I'm curious; does Darwinism apply to you? Is there some kind of parallel to your pharmaceutical Darwinism, like - I don't know - internet-forum Darwinism, that eliminates people who post illogical and offensive nonsense? I guess what I'm getting at is: are you genetically fit enough to take part in this conversation? Would the forum, and/or the human species, be better off without you? And, is it my place to make that judgement?

Perhaps you should quit while you're ahead; just a thought.

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Edit: I didn't see your second post. I accept your apology. For the record: your "viewpoint" is ignorant and offensive, and it doesn't deserve respect. Grow up.
 
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I broke two bones in an avalanche this spring. My buddy messed up his face and hands pretty bad. i caused the slide and now were both reaping what I (we've) sown. Im only 24 and I havent exactly had my share of "wake-up calls" in the sense where I hit rock bottom and surrender. I learned you can think youre being safe, or you can tell yourself everything is fine and that youre being careful. But I could have died that day, and someone didn't let me. I owe that someone my life and I think I owe a lot of other people a lot of other things too. Now I have the job of living each day through a different lens, and making changes with myself and my behavior that ultimately will benefit me, but also other people, too.

I wanted to share that, because, like serotonin101, I may have been a bit harsh with my opinions, but theyre opinions nonetheless, and are grounded in [our] belief systems. I sincerely hope the young man heals up and finds peace in his life, and, like me Im damn glad he gets a second chance. I think everyone deserves a second chance.
 
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