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n,n,DMT on your own VS with friends
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Devo_
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I've experienced DMT 4 times, twice with friends and twice by myself and I have to admit, I did prefer it when by myself.
Put on some Pink Floyd and let the powers of Gilmour guide your trip to bliss lmao :D
Put on some Pink Floyd and let the powers of Gilmour guide your trip to bliss lmao :D
I usually do all psychedelics on my own but that's mainly because my friends aren't trippers and don't understand what it's like and can get a bit annoying when tripping. However I think the first time I try DMT I would want to do it in the company of someone sober so I know I have someone there if something goes wrong, I think knowing you have that safety net there just in case reduces a lot of the anxiety when trying something new for the first time.
smoketrailz
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nah bro, DMT alone. i would be more worried about a friend tripping me out.
i have done dmt with friends it can be mad fun sometimes. dmt alone has always bin amazing
SKL
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DMT is in no way shape or form a social drug to me. The presence of people is usually irrelevant if you are going far out on some deemz. But if anything I find it bizarre or intrusive.
Smoked DMT with moclobemide however was a nice bonding experience when done with a colleague. But I dunno if that was a one off thing or what, but the moclo does add a certain warmth to things.
Smoked DMT with moclobemide however was a nice bonding experience when done with a colleague. But I dunno if that was a one off thing or what, but the moclo does add a certain warmth to things.
SirTophamHat
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alone or w/ one other person is optimal imo
i've had great experiences with group settings but it's gotta be with mature people in a secure and quiet/ambient space.
i've had great experiences with group settings but it's gotta be with mature people in a secure and quiet/ambient space.
TheAppleCore
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I would never consider doing it with a friend. It's just such a totally personal experience. To me, that'd be like having sex with a third person sitting in the same room and watching my every move.
Volcano
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I'm having a small GTG this weekend with 6 people.
I'm the "supplier" (was gifted a good supply). 3 people won't be using (the wifes of the girl and guy doing it, yes I do drugs with lesbians
) and my wife but only because she's pregnant. We're all Carl Sagan (Happy Birthday!), Richard Dawking, Steven Hawking nuts. 4 of us hold at least a Bachelors degreNo one is going to have an issue with what they see or hear or experience.
johannes kreisler
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If I'm alone, I feel an additional freeing aspect. Like, while tripping in front of others, you have the added psychedelic component of "am I acting too weird" etc, unless as people have said, you are very close with the other person and let them know you're going to go nuts and enjoy it in your own way.
When you're alone, you can really scream and let'er rip. I ended up swirling in my comforter and disconnecting my alarm clock, lamp, and knocking over many books while in a positively euphoric cosmic orgasm of shape, texture, pattern, and color.
When you're alone, you can really scream and let'er rip. I ended up swirling in my comforter and disconnecting my alarm clock, lamp, and knocking over many books while in a positively euphoric cosmic orgasm of shape, texture, pattern, and color.
DwayneHoover
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I've not yet tried n,n-DMT and even I think doing it in a "group" context, especially with 3 doing it and 3 not... presumably one person will do it at a time while the other 5 sit there and stare.
Just sounds real creepy to me, likely to give the one dosing some very negative feelings.
Just from what I know about it, I would suggest introducing your friends to it one at a time in one-on-one sessions. With the understanding being beforehand that you will NOT interfere or attempt to influence, you are there not as a "guide" but as a "sitter" to be there to help in the very unlikely event that the person has some bad PHYSICAL reaction.
I agree it sounds so personal and inward an experience, and like tripping when I first started, doing it around others resulted in my worrying constantly "Am I acting too wierd" (i.e., the druggie version of "Do these pants make my ass look fat?" :D ). Or the people not doing it at a party who knew I was would give me these sideways glances like "So when does he start freaking out?" that no matter how discrete they thought they were being I would ALWAYS pick up on it, having such an amplified sensitivity, which would then just creep me out. Or I could not help from imagining they were thinking that, which was often worse.
Doing such a transformative inwardly warping drug that totally unplugs you from ALL group contact and identification and puts you into your very own little Big Bang spacetime bubble of a universe while in a group is a little like masturbating in a department store display window. Its just hard to feel good about it no matter how good it feels or interesting it is. We are hardwired to be VERY social creatures, and doing something so intrinsically antisocial in a group is bound to introduce "What the hell is wrong with me, doing this stuff?" sort of paranoia, even if you know beforehand they are all totally cool with it beforehand.... "In the zone" you can easily forget that, and react on much more of an imagined group-emotion gut-level, which can be not the best scenario.
Just sounds real creepy to me, likely to give the one dosing some very negative feelings.
Just from what I know about it, I would suggest introducing your friends to it one at a time in one-on-one sessions. With the understanding being beforehand that you will NOT interfere or attempt to influence, you are there not as a "guide" but as a "sitter" to be there to help in the very unlikely event that the person has some bad PHYSICAL reaction.
I agree it sounds so personal and inward an experience, and like tripping when I first started, doing it around others resulted in my worrying constantly "Am I acting too wierd" (i.e., the druggie version of "Do these pants make my ass look fat?" :D ). Or the people not doing it at a party who knew I was would give me these sideways glances like "So when does he start freaking out?" that no matter how discrete they thought they were being I would ALWAYS pick up on it, having such an amplified sensitivity, which would then just creep me out. Or I could not help from imagining they were thinking that, which was often worse.
Doing such a transformative inwardly warping drug that totally unplugs you from ALL group contact and identification and puts you into your very own little Big Bang spacetime bubble of a universe while in a group is a little like masturbating in a department store display window. Its just hard to feel good about it no matter how good it feels or interesting it is. We are hardwired to be VERY social creatures, and doing something so intrinsically antisocial in a group is bound to introduce "What the hell is wrong with me, doing this stuff?" sort of paranoia, even if you know beforehand they are all totally cool with it beforehand.... "In the zone" you can easily forget that, and react on much more of an imagined group-emotion gut-level, which can be not the best scenario.
johannes kreisler
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Volcano
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smells like trouble
That's not to say we're Athiests. In fact, we don't much discuss religion except I know none of them are Christian or believe in a Christian 'God.' Personally, I'm Agnostic.
And yes, it certainty smells like trouble.
I forgot to mention the other 3 non-users will be in another part of the house. I have a special room for bluelight wares.
johannes kreisler
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the trouble is DMT being one forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge and therefore gnostifying agnostics and severely mindfucking atheists.
If you smoked DMT before and still call yourself agnostic you didn't smoke it right - or lie to yourself after the experience is over. imo.
after my first ++++ at least I pretty much immediately stopped calling myself an agnostic.
and: no, I do not "believe" in "god" as well. never did. and never will.
...I hear the "atheists" whisper: If I knew mystical experiences and being spiritual were like that - then I would have been a believer all along. it's obvious. how could someone doubt it?
when it comes to spirituality there are some principles that are undeniable and even imperative from the scientific point of view. not despite but because...
If you smoked DMT before and still call yourself agnostic you didn't smoke it right - or lie to yourself after the experience is over. imo.
after my first ++++ at least I pretty much immediately stopped calling myself an agnostic.
and: no, I do not "believe" in "god" as well. never did. and never will.
...I hear the "atheists" whisper: If I knew mystical experiences and being spiritual were like that - then I would have been a believer all along. it's obvious. how could someone doubt it?
when it comes to spirituality there are some principles that are undeniable and even imperative from the scientific point of view. not despite but because...
PippUK
Bluelighter
I reckon that if you are vapourising your DMT, another person there is almost irrelevant to your trip when you achieve a proper breakthrough. If it's your first time, maybe someone in the next room might be a comforting component of your setting, just in case you start thrashing around or acting up. I've always vaped alone though because I like to minimise the external distractions.
However, if you are using an oral DMT combination (ala Ayahuasca or some analogue thereof) it can have a social dimension. I am thinking of the shamanic setting or, for example, the mass ceremonies practised by some syncretic religious groups.
Peace - Pipp
However, if you are using an oral DMT combination (ala Ayahuasca or some analogue thereof) it can have a social dimension. I am thinking of the shamanic setting or, for example, the mass ceremonies practised by some syncretic religious groups.
Peace - Pipp
hotchocolatejunkie
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Ive only done dmt once so far though i have a few more hits prepared to do soon, i was at an afterparty on the last night of a festival there were maybe 15/20 people all in a university halls of residence communal room all doing various drugs and chatting away in groups, did my hit slightly after a friend did his after a while i felt like i needed to lie down but i had no idea if it was a good idea or not. after a couple minutes trying to explain this question in 3 word sentances i was told yeah if you want to... My biggest problem now was remembering how to lie down from a seated position against the wall! I had to get another reasonably sober friend to pyshically move my body to the desired position. Thank good i was wearing nice underwear under the skirt that got hiked up in that process (and that the guy moving me was gay so the reajustment of said clothing wasnt being taken advantage of haha).
I figure at least the next few times i do it i will be around good friends just incase who knows though once i become a seasoned user
I figure at least the next few times i do it i will be around good friends just incase who knows though once i become a seasoned user
I have only done DMT once and I did it with supervision. Now that I made the journey , I would like to try it by myself. The people I was with respected it and did not bother me in any way because they knew it was my first "blast off"