phase_dancer
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No doubt in response to dwindling supplies and availability of pseudoephedrine, I've heard reports that ethylamphetamine has recently become more prevalent around Brisbane. In speaking to a couple of users, the common opinion is that the product crystallises easily even when impure. I should add that one of the people in mention is able to obtain an exact determination of such a substance. When smoked the hit is reported to be stronger and quicker acting than meth.
However, both these people thought the degree and progression of psychosis was far worse with ethylamphetamine. One guy, a meth fancier, said he ended up tipping the remains down the toilet - it was that bad.
So I'm wondering if anyone has knowingly encountered this analogue. It is reported in literature, but I haven't found much on it. It is described pharmacologically as being metabolised into amphetamine in-vivo (no real surprises here) but I haven't found anything solid on toxicology yet.
I was somewhat surprised to hear this stuff was noticeably psychoactive at all without first being metabolised. I guess I'd only considered ingestion or insufflation, as I would have thought de-methylation/ de-ethylation & hydroxylation would occur rapidly via liver first pass as well as in the blood stream, leaving the similar active metabolites that occur with MDMA or amphetamine metabolism.
But when smoked, the drug obviously seems to reach it's target receptors before being snatched up by MAOB or the enzymes previously mentioned. Or maybe it is metabolised to meth at the site (de-methylation). The effect was described as being faster but much shorter lived than smoked meth, accompanied by the expected craving which was reported to be almost proportional to the difference in duration between ethyl and methyl amphetamine. No surprises there either I guess.
The real question is; how bad is this stuff? I would like to know if this was ever trailed as a pharmaceutical and if so what for and what were the outcomes of such tests? In the meantime it would be interesting to know if anyone has heard anything mentioned about Ethylamphetamine.
Ethylamphetamine is listed in Aus as a schedule 1 dangerous drug
Drugs of Dependence Regulations (Amendment)
and there is this French web translated paper but it doesn't offer much info, other than to say the substance is well resorbed through the stomach.
N-etheylamphetamine
It is also listed in Novachem's Forensics Science Standards and Steroids catalogue
Couple of corrections to my original post: ethylamphetamine is a homologue to meth, not an analogue, and the word trailed should read trialled...
However, both these people thought the degree and progression of psychosis was far worse with ethylamphetamine. One guy, a meth fancier, said he ended up tipping the remains down the toilet - it was that bad.
So I'm wondering if anyone has knowingly encountered this analogue. It is reported in literature, but I haven't found much on it. It is described pharmacologically as being metabolised into amphetamine in-vivo (no real surprises here) but I haven't found anything solid on toxicology yet.
I was somewhat surprised to hear this stuff was noticeably psychoactive at all without first being metabolised. I guess I'd only considered ingestion or insufflation, as I would have thought de-methylation/ de-ethylation & hydroxylation would occur rapidly via liver first pass as well as in the blood stream, leaving the similar active metabolites that occur with MDMA or amphetamine metabolism.
But when smoked, the drug obviously seems to reach it's target receptors before being snatched up by MAOB or the enzymes previously mentioned. Or maybe it is metabolised to meth at the site (de-methylation). The effect was described as being faster but much shorter lived than smoked meth, accompanied by the expected craving which was reported to be almost proportional to the difference in duration between ethyl and methyl amphetamine. No surprises there either I guess.
The real question is; how bad is this stuff? I would like to know if this was ever trailed as a pharmaceutical and if so what for and what were the outcomes of such tests? In the meantime it would be interesting to know if anyone has heard anything mentioned about Ethylamphetamine.
Ethylamphetamine is listed in Aus as a schedule 1 dangerous drug
Drugs of Dependence Regulations (Amendment)
and there is this French web translated paper but it doesn't offer much info, other than to say the substance is well resorbed through the stomach.
N-etheylamphetamine
It is also listed in Novachem's Forensics Science Standards and Steroids catalogue
Couple of corrections to my original post: ethylamphetamine is a homologue to meth, not an analogue, and the word trailed should read trialled...
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