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N-Cat? M-Cat? What is this substance?

I cant believe whats just been uploaded onto Youtube!

Its pretty brutal shit - not for faint of heart - all I'll say is it involves...........ultimateRaver23


ha ha ha that's superb =D

I see he's touting this crap as the best thing ever. LMAO
 
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i foolishly brought some n-cat today, so ill report tomorrow on the effects / lack off. i also equally as foolishly brought some nrg-3 so likewise,should i survive i shall post a report. i actually forced myself to watch one of ultimateraver's videos about n-cat and without the cider in his hand and the sound of hardcore in the background, he looked very sober - so either n-cat does nothing, or it is actually psychoactive in some from - at least as a antipsychotic maybe.. well i tried to post a comment on his youtube but it wouldnt let me- i was actually telling him i was going to give it a try and hat off to him if it is indeed a good drug. and that id report back here and give him brops. alas, youtube was unable to allow me to post a comment (i wonder why) so well see. i expect little. ............BUT i will eat my words (all of them, even the dyslexic ones) should it actually do anything at all. :)
 
Lol, i don't think we should take over another thread about this twat. :)

Cant someone make a "We <3 ultimatetalkshitraver23 thread"? 8(

Btw taken from his facebook acc.


"cant wait for my 3.5 grams of 5IAI to come gonna get rite fuckin on it ravers haha pure as fuck as well finally found a new vendor with good shit like,doing videos on legal highs gettin paid loads of money im so fuckin chuffed,my business is picking up"

"this is a tune to rave 2 and buzz 2 mother fuckers lets fuckin ave it im a raver not a fuckin drug addict i dont e'z drink instead i aint off my head just prefer to drink this is my life and i will do wat i want,ha do i do drugs nah i aint no mug drugs are for mugs lmao"

Why anyone would you pay this idiot to promote/talk shit is beyond me
but i guess some people are taken in by it :\
 
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No vendor in the world currently stocks 5-IAI - it's all bunk at the moment. Shill. But I agree we don't need another thread slagging him - post on his PooToob vidz or whatever if you wanna bitch about him please, folks :)
 
i hate to do this.........

but im going to have to give N-cat a thumbs up.

here is an attempt at a report

12stone, 5'10, f, base line - well fed at 8am, hungover. at best im the most grumpy woman alive untill ive drunk a galon of tea, and i still go around cursing the world for existing.

12am (went back to sleep) opend 2g Ncat. firstly moan and the vender (without naming) the bag was labeld with the usual psuedo-toxic hazards to health warnings, but they had stapled the bag to the invoice, resulting in a leak in the bag. ive had this annoyance a few times. i used to be the lead for "COSHH" (control of substances hazardus to health) when i was working in medicine (much to my friends amuzment who thought this was hysterical)

consistency - looks like m-cat. through the bag. smell - blocked nose so cant be sure. taste with finger (due to leaked bag, non-descript. i initilly thought "yes this is the same as nrg-2. however it is far less in bulk, the 2g didnt look as much as 1g of that. other then the bulk i remember nrg-2 was cruncy. this wasnt as "crunchy" like snow like nrg-2 was.

i took a capsule (75mg cap), i know it says 75mg, but bulk and weight are different things so this isnt a accurate measure. without this time measuring the bag id guess 100mg.

sit in sun, think bliss. but its the sun, go in, ingest another 75mg. withing 1hr id taken maybe half a gram orally and im defo feeling it, im lying in the sun, there are builders making a noise directly below me and i would usually have given up and moaned about them for the day, but i lie there in the sun with a smile creeping up on me. im still questioning if its placebo...i actually watched a flock (is it a flock?) of seagulls fly through the air and think "oo pretty" and , i get up to answer the phone, defo wobbly now, slight gurn, feels like methalone (again spell me on that im dyslexic) which i prefer to m-cat. i found m-cat dirty with the speedy rush, however both made me messy (i particularly liked combining the 2 but i was a total mess) - u know when people have a coke session, at the end every last piece of dust is accounted for and no matter what state they are in you dont DROP a grain - "winners dont lose drugs" pmsl. m-cat sessions id regularly spill it, gram here on the floor on the keyboard etc. i feel a bit like that

i do a line, again guestimated (no scales around today) - i didnt like insulfating m-cat it made it morish, and it tasted rank. the taste was exactly m-cat like. another 100mg at 1.30pm and a small line (perhaps it too is morish insulfated and i decided to start a report on blue light, and as you can see i cant stop typing.

ok so so far so good. ive probably done just over a gram in 110min. if your looking for a rush your not going to get it, but it feels lovely right this min.

i will update later re comedown, relections etc.
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<edit at 3.30pm> istantly became morish once snorted. however, within 5min i had to blow my nose so despite taking over from oral admin it became a pointless circle of sniff, sneeze. followed by nausia and vomit. this isnt unusual for me to be sick on anything tho. about 3pm ran out of 2g, dysmorphia set in like a coke craving, and the need to go lie down on my own and sleep. unfortunatly im still to fidgity to sleep. just taken 10mg diazapan to help ride it out. i guess now on the other side of it. 2g to last 3hrs isnt really worth it, but im comparing to m-cat, im still slightly trippy. i attempted to listen to music whilst still feeling the buzz, but like mdai, and nrg-2 i found it didnt go, infact it might have been a factor in the dysmorphia.

summery-

i obviously enjoyed it while it lasted, but it didnt last long enough. i almost felt the "twitchy vision" at one stage but didnt quite hit the spot. maybe higher dose. id say its a m-cat light thats not as strong and more morish. good for sales probably.

<edit 7pm, had lovely sleep. pmsl. still sense slight fuzzy vision, was able to eat with no problems, re: diazapan i have that on prescription long term, its not unusual for me to need it, im so tolerant i dont get sedation from it. the urge for a long sleep was probably the N-cat, i had the same from nrg-2..and im increasingly (as my head clears) wondering how similar it is, seeing as we dont know whats in any of them, n-cat could be different substance between 2 vendors as nrg-2 could be, or even between batches with the same vendor, we dont know whats sold as one thing one week is the same the next week even!)
 
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N-Cat experience

well there was none really. At a stage of being experimental and tried mephedrone. That was good- did a bit much though. Was excited to get first n-cat today. smelt similar to drone, gave a nice feeling when snorted but nothing else! very disappointed. was following ultimateraver, thought he was a gen guy but must have a deal with supplier on this one. nob. total poo. Legal highs are getting out of control and dangerous. everyone cashing in. not going to purchase anything else till there is a clear winner.:( wish i saw this discussion b4 wasting my cash!!
 
idea-
n-ethyl (i am making sense with this right?) of methylcathinone? so 4-ethylmethylcat?
just a guess.
 
i hate to do this.........

but im going to have to give N-cat a thumbs up.

!)

Umm... interesting. Every review I have read so far has given N-Cat the thumbs down.... Yet reading your comments it seems like an M-cat 'lite' .. at about half the strength of M-Cat which sounds pretty expensive for a buzz, yet on the plus side with such mild effects it seems it would be hard to come to grief on this (unlike NRG-1).

I wonder if it mild stimulant qualities would give a boost to MDAI , but wonder if this would be foolish/and or just a waste of time?
(I used to find methylone synergised well with mephedrone )
 
@saxodale - ive thought the same. a dab of nrg-1 with mdai or n-cat/nrg2 might make it work.
 
NRG-1 + NRG-2 = NRG-1. Number 2 (how very fitting =D) is too weak to notice if you combo them... unless you IV them together - that is just insanely strong in the worst possible way. It's the only time in over 20 years of IVing anything and everything that I had to stop the shot and put it down halfway through shooting it. Twice. NRG-2 seems to be about 10000% stronger IV and potentiates the living shit out of NRG-1 when injected together. It truly is nasty as hell but kinda interesting how much stronger it is. Like a totally different drug but not for the better.

NRG-1 is theoretically naphyrone but samples from some vendors were recently tested and found to have zero naphyrone - turned out to be MDPV cut with an unknown cathinone. Others really are naphyrone. Still others are something else entirely but nobody knows what. Naphyrone is a triple reuptake inhibitor (kinda like an SSRI on steroids) so doesn't mix too well with MDAI. Kills it stone dead in fact - and kills MDMA even deader. You need a more dopiminergic drug (methylphenidate, MDPV, coke, speed etc) to give MDAI some balls.

MDAI really is nice IV and is gorgeous with psyches though. I'd skip the NRG-x combos with it or anything else though. Goes without saying that IVing unknown RCs is less than wise in itself, of course. MDAI is not an unknown RC as it's been around for years and is fairly well-studied. The NRGs most definitely aren't. Or they might be. Who knows when we don't even know what's in them? :\
 
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@shambles - how come its so much stronger IV? - is there a scientific reason for this? or an idea, ive neve iv'd anything so have no experience of it.

re@ using coke to add "balls" ive actualy heard people use coke to come down from nrg-1 ....COKE TO COME DOWN!!!!! sounds crazy.

why wouldnt nrg-1 work wit nrg-2?, i guess that question is pointless as we dont know what any of them actually are! - the only way would be to try, and actually, despite my worst nature, i cant be bothered to try! i just keep thinking about it....the effort of buying it is too much for me. especially as ive notived nrg-1 seems to have vanished this week.
 
@shambles - how come its so much stronger IV? - is there a scientific reason for this? or an idea, ive neve iv'd anything so have no experience of it.

IV = 100% bioavailability. From my experiments with it, nasal seems to have the lowest BA and oral is a bit higher but both must be pretty low for it to be so much stronger IV. The NRGs are shit drugs however you take them.

In related news, I received a sample of supposedly pure naphyrone (not labelled as NRG-1) today and must say it's very much cleaner feeling and with far less unpleasant side-effects than any version of NRG-1 I've had before. Not as strong as some of the others (which were most likely the cut MDPV stuff) but not exactly weak either and the relative gentleness compared to some of the more headfucky stuff would likely be a bonus for many.

Just goes to show once more, avoid branded crap cos you just don't know what it is. Pure powders are so much better... as long as they are actually pure powders. You really never know with so many vendors :\
 
im not sure if this is acceptable as were not ment to discuss vendors. but i emailed a supplier and asked what t "nrg1/2/3/4" actually are and was told "to google it"

no joke.
 
N-Cat. tried it! Liked it!

Did it! Enjoyed it! Stayed up til 10am next day. We drank like fishes and had deep conversations but we ain't hippies! Doesn't have the MDMA hit like Meph. Was a zippy kind of high with a mild empathy to chat. Got it from *somewhere* but reckon it was cut but still worth it.

Want info on NRG-2. Has anyone done it and enjoyed it?????????
 
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Hmmm smells like a vendor

Seejay
Did it! Enjoyed it! Stayed up til 10am next day. We drank like fishes and had deep conversations but we ain't hippies! Doesn't have the MDMA hit like Meph. Was a zippy kind of high with a mild empathy to chat. Got it from *somewhere* but reckon it was cut but still worth it.

Want info on NRG-2. Has anyone done it and enjoyed it?????????
 
It will be true that N-cat is apparently the same as nrg-2 and jolly green granules. .......................
 
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