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MZ12X. (Dimethyl Ether aka methoxymethane) New way to make wax/shatter

So a friend of mine came over a few days ago with this wax made with this new stuff called MZ12X Organic Degreaser (Dimethyl ether).

So what do u think about it ?
 
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Did you read it? It doesn't mention heavy metals, just smelly sulphur compounds that aren't in most canned gas. Their source seems totally false too & they say that.

The only useful part of that page is the link at the bottom - http://www.mysteryoil.blogspot.co.uk/ they found some 'mystery oil' in butane lighter refills, had it tested & found it was petroleum byproducts, not even a trace of any heavy metals found.

Also, your first post seems to be a straight copy & paste of some site selling the alternative. I'm calling shill & you're not even a good one.
 
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Most of it was copied an pasted ! . I was just wondering what everyone's opinion on this new product that claims to b safe/healthier for the environment /Consumer . Truthfully I don't believe it all .

An there's a reason I'm not good at being a troll ( shill or whatever your talking about ) cuz I'm not !!!!
 
seems like a lot of unrelated info to me.. i don't have time to read through it all but as far as I know MSDS is more for the handling of and workplace application of hazardous chemicals. I'm sure there is some overlap, but I always thought it to be a very different application when direct ingestion is involved, like say using for extraction process that is going to be then vaporized and inhaled. My experience with MSDS is more like how to safely handle dangerous chemicals, for example what personal protective equipment to wear, what temperatures to maintain and avoid, and so forth. It is general rules that apply to industry standards. I would think for extraction purposes you would need to look at specific chemical manufactures and their specific practices, for example this is where you would find out whether or not there is stuff added to the butane or if it is pure butane.

I think you have good intent but may be looking in the wrong direction. To understand whether or not another chemical besides say butane would be better/worse for extraction purposes, one would be needing to look into and have an understand of the chemistry behind the extraction. This would ultimately tell you whether or not more/less THC,CBD, terpenes will be extracted. Also, if one fully understood the chemistry behind it then one would be able to know whether or not trace elements would be left behind and if so, how to further extract them.
 
Yeah I did actually, it tasted better then (most)wax/shatter made with butane/propane .I'm not say I haven't had really good tasting wax/shatter cuz I have. As for the high it wasn't much different it just seemed alil more clear headed not as heavy as I usually fill but close.

O yeah I'm sure it wasn't made professionally. So it could of been made way better
 
seems like a lot of unrelated info to me.. i don't have time to read through it all but as far as I know MSDS is more for the handling of and workplace application of hazardous chemicals. MSDS is more like how to safely handle dangerous chemicals, for example what personal protective equipment to wear, what temperatures to maintain and avoid, and so forth. It is general rules that apply to industry standards.


Yeah thats what MSDS r for. That's y put it up , to see if people think it safer then butane/propane , not just the safety in smoking the end product but safer for the person making it an the environment!

Thanks for your input

SH970
 
trimmed the copypasta out of the first post, the product is just dimethyl ether so the MSDS is available from a few sources
 
Yeah I did actually, it tasted better then (most)wax/shatter made with butane/propane .I'm not say I haven't had really good tasting wax/shatter cuz I have. As for the high it wasn't much different it just seemed alil more clear headed not as heavy as I usually fill but close.

O yeah I'm sure it wasn't made professionally. So it could of been made way better
I'm always interested in trying a new concentrate. This intrigues me.

Yeah thats what MSDS r for. That's y put it up , to see if people think it safer then butane/propane , not just the safety in smoking the end product but safer for the person making it an the environment!

Thanks for your input

SH970
Well if the standards for it are more lax than Butane, hasn't it already been inherently verified that it is safer for the person making it because there is no requirement on the closed loop system (for CO)?

It seems like the safety profile has already been verified?
 
Dimethyl ether is relatively safe but it's boiling point makes it difficult to handle. I really don't see it being worth the effort unless one was doing large scale near critical extractions, which isn't really practical either.

If dimethyl ether worked well for extracting cannabinoids, then ethyl ether should work as well or better. It would also be a lot easier to handle. In terms of practicality, I don't see dimethyl ether being worth the trouble. It certainly won't be safer or easier to handle then butane.
 
Very interesting. As long as you're starting solvent is pure (no "mystery oil" or other contaminants), and you totally purge all solvent out of your product, then really any volatile solvent can be used to extract---and based on the volatility of ether, I'd think it would make a good oil... (and based on the heavy regulation in Colorado, if I bought it at a store, I'd feel safe about trying it)
 
I don't know about dimethylether, but diethylether can form explosive compounds if stored improperly, so inform yourself, if you didn't already...
 
Just bought a can ! I'll let yous know how it goes

Please take care with peroxide formation. I don't want you to blow up, ok?

Tom

(and no, I'm not impressed with an Et20 extraction; I think it's stupid, idiotic and unsafe for non trained personnel to work with this more so than Butane, Isopropyl alcohol or Ethanol)
 
yeh man safety first, if you lose your eyebrows everyone will think you're a firestarter :p
 
Dimethyl ether is far more of a hazard than using butane (more flammable, higher vapor pressure) and is probably less selective too.
 
People are so misinformed due to speculation and by few who act like they know what they are talking about.

Here is the proof that extracting with MZ12X is safe.
 
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