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My theory behind IM/IV over oral route for PD's

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soahc

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Seems like every time I do LSD or RC's I get gut problems.

I used to wonder why the fuck.

Now I understand what the enteric nervous system is, that the gut has a distinct set of nerves and much of the neurotransmitters in the body.

This route then filters drugs before they reach the brain.

Part of why I always react with digestive body load when I take trypts and phens may be that I have liver damage from IV coke/meth/heroin and drinking, and also that my intestinal mucosa is not healthy. Even since I was a kid I have had very sensitive digestion and irregular bowel habits.

Seems logical that bypassing the gut all together would be ideal. I am just sick of the stomach cramps.

So I am dead set on trying IM route. Probably avoid IV because I just don;t want to get back into the RUSH mindset, which IV does and IM doesn;t really. I had a serious coke problem because I could not stop chasing the dragon.

Anyone have any opinions to share? Experienced IM'ers? I know there are people on here that prefer needles fo everything they take, and it looks like I am leaning in that direction.

Just sick of being sick when I take PD's. Trying to problem solve this so I can keep up my psychonautical exploration.
 
I know that there is a lot of old school "holistic" medicine especially the eastern stuff that basically says that an important part of controlling the mind is controlling the "gut" because they are extremely intertwined in a complex level

And psychedelics obviously have strong effects on the mind
 
Most of the serotonin in the body, and half the dopamine, is in the gut. A lot of people are unaware of this.

I just want to know, from people who may have extensive eperience with various route of administration, if IM does or does not tend to have as much (esp. gut related) body load as oral route.

Most of the body load I get on PD's seems to be this deep gut tension, and I wonder if this is because I swallow it.
 
I've tried a psychodelic i.m. once and since then I wouldn't trade this ROA for any other whenever possible. For psychodelics. So intense! (double rainbow anyone? :D)

Rest of drugs would just waste my precious muscles, and I do not take opiods. ;)

Talking about the needles, it depends on how fat you are, but generally it's better to buy a longer needle than a too short one. I've got 1ml syringe plus 0,7x30mm needles. Though, depends on where you live, the naming of the needles might be different.
 
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I've been talking lately a lot with a person who often plugs things in, it's about as effective (for tryptamines at least) as i.m., or even more. It's not gay, lol. Oral could be more gay. Anyway, if you don't like needles I guess it could be something for you, or if you don't have a clean distilled water solution of your substance e.g. codeine extractions, I know it's not psychedelic; my own experience with extracted codeine plugged was much better and faster kick in, and the peak lasted longer, comparing to oral.

Repeating, p.r. is imo good solution if you can't i.m. things due to doubt whether the substance is clean off crap, after all you don't want to inject rat poison into your muscle ;)

I've heard stories and myths about bluelight moderator who tries any new thing available on the market with ROA per rectum. You might ask him, I'm kinda newbie with little experience and a lot of read on others' opinions and experience.

Hope that helps, I'll be watching this thread.

PS: one problem with p.r. is that you need your anus clean, you don't want any material to waste, do you? Propably that's why I'd prefer i.m., I didn't do any clysterisation when using extracted codeine p.r. and it still kicked like hell (I did poop 30 minutes before).
 
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