My recent experience with various benzos

[emkee_reinvented]

L-theanine is so expesive it literally retated to your income.

or maybe a healthyMachta
edit ; Magda ?

Matcha-addiction, very rich in a.o l-Theanine

 

[Allylbenzene]

Where would one find all these antidotes. The local chemist .it would seem reasonable that someone going through withdrawals would have a hard time obtaining such items.

They're all available online.

 

[vision conquest]

Where would one find all these antidotes. The local chemist .it would seem reasonable that someone going through withdrawals would have a hard time obtaining such items.

Most can be found online at supplement shops, L-theanine, agmatine and creatine and L-phenylalanine, for example can be easily and cheaply sourced at online supplement shops, mainly natural health food/bodybuilding supplement shops.


Things like phytol and magnolol don't seem to be as easy to find, however I think a little time spent searching now that I have the specific supplements I am after will be all that is required.

I already have L-theanine, which I have been taking before bed along with magnesium glycinate, however after reading the info in this post I am thinking I will save it until I actually stop the benzos along with the other supps I now have on my shopping list.

 

[Pirrracetamol]

This link explains why the items in that third list will help. It describes the potent GABAergic substances the body makes which are more effective than benzos.
Statin drugs interfere with this.

Thank you so much for this.

 

[Allylbenzene]

Things like phytol and magnolol don't seem to be as easy to find

Phytol is sold online in several places, including amazon.
Magnolia bark extract is sold as 90%+ magnolol/honokiol.

Magnolia bark contains magnolol, metabolized to tetrahydromagnolol and honokiol, with both GABA-ergic/cannabimimetic activities

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28517911/

 

[Pirrracetamol]

Is there any more supplements that help with benzodiazepine tolerance like Dextromethorphan?

 

[Pirrracetamol]

Not gonna say much could backfire but it seems like Dextromethorphan reduces tolerance. Not that anyone gives a shit lol

 

[Dextro .45]

Alprazolam 1mg Galenka - short acting, took anxiety away and did nothing else if I stayed home, enjoyed them more when I would go out and socialise, guess its the lack of anxiety (which I suffer with massively). Naturally as an addict when I felt nothing I took more and more until I ended up passing out and waking in the same position. I would only ever use these again for when I had bad anxiety and had to do something or panic attacks. Years and years ago I got some legit bottles of Xanax bars and they felt so different and had much more of a recreational value than these generic pills

lol, too funny……so true

When I administered IM injection of Avizafone (Pro-Diazepam) once in bloodstream its rapidly metabolized into l-Lysine and the API being Diazepam (Valium). …..a RAPID acting water soluable pro-drug with 100% bioavailability and reaches C-Max in 0.5h as compared to 1.5h oral Diazepam

Any-who……I gave myself a shot in the shoulder…….felt nice & relaxed in 30min but made the stupid decision of taking another shot + Methadone 25mg tablet

Woke up 4 hours later with ZERO recollection of what happened…….its just soooooo RAPIDLY acting and before you know it, you’re freakin LIT


BEST Benzodiazepine compounds I’ve had large quantities of, and extensive history and 1st hand experience with.

Etizolam & Deschloroetizolam (BOTH……AMAZINGLY potent & effect anxiolytic & antidepressant analogs)

Diclazepam (2-Chloro Diazepam) synthasized by same polish chemist who also made Librium, Valium, Klonopin, etc.
it’s also essentially a “pro-drug” but active in its own right. Diclazepam has 3 active metabolites that are legally prescribed around the world.

Diclazepam > Delorazepam >> Lorazepam (Ativan) 200+ hours still detected in urine & bloodstream

Diclazepam 3mg is a proper dose for a 200lbs + tolerant male …..which in 24h is fully metabolized into Delorazepam (licensed in Italy as a potent loooong acting anxiolytic benzo) 78h half-life……..then, it’s slowly and gradually metabolized into Lorazepam (Ativan) which everyone knows about

Avizafone (Pro-Diazepam) 22.5mg IM injection equal to Valium (Diazepam) 10mg oral ……but extremely rapid acting water soluable (featuring a significantly higher C-Max and faster T-Max)

Valium (Diazepam)
Xanax (Alprazolam)
Ativan (Lorazepam)
Klonopin (Clonazepam) …..have had them all.

Valium & Xanax are the most important, useful, potent benzodiazepines with their each highlights ……both worth their weight in gold

However…….I would Sooooo acquire a massive quantity (10-20grams) of pharmaceutical grade Diclazepam (2-Chloro Diazepam) as it is the longest acting effective anxiolytic benzodiazepine that’s invaluable for safe gradual tapering or a single 3mg oral dose would provide effective anxiolytic effects for 3-5 days)

Etizolam 1mg
Deschloroetizolam 6mg ……Both are VERY Euphoric and pleasurable Theinotriazolodiazepines highly selective for the a2 & a3 subunit sites responsible for anxiolytic & antidepressant (mood-boosting) properties

Currently…..I have been through 9,000mg of quality Avizafone (Pro-Diazepam) ……9 separate orders of 1 gram quantities, which gives me 10 to 15 potent IM administered doses

 

[pcplease]

Mexazolam might be better/safer/easier to taper off of than diclazepam once you finally get to the jumping off point.


The new Fluoprazolam and especially this Pynazolam are interesting. Many further studies needed

 

[Allylbenzene]

Anyone looking for a benzo alternative or taper aid (other than phytol and magnolol):

Niacinamide/nicotinamide is OTC. 50-200mg daily with carbs/sugar. Larger doses are often counterproductive. That's not a joke.
Start with 50mg and cautiously increase the dose.

It appears that niacinamide has similar anxiolytic properties to that of the benzodiazepines. This is supported by the fact that the patient did not feel any difference, in terms of response and effectiveness, between the benzodiazepines and niacinamide. He was able to switch with little difficulty from the daily use of a benzodiazepine to niacinamide.
...
While it is impossible to conclude that the effects of niacinamide are due to its interaction upon the benzodiazepine receptor, it does appear to influence neurotransmitter metabolism in a manner that is comparable to benzodiazepines by a route as yet undetermined. Even though most of the studies dealt with animal rather than human models, the results suggest that niacinamide has a potent benzodiazepine-like action on the CNS.
- source

Nicotinamide is an active compound found in rat or bovine brain that shares several pharmacological properties with benzodiazepines.
It has been shown to facilitate GABA-dependent presynaptic inhibition.
Like benzodiazepines, nicotinamide protects animals from seizures ... and also possesses myorelaxant and sedative activities.
- https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/nicotinamide

Theanine powder is OTC, the dose range is 100mg to 1g+

L-Theanine, a non-proteinogenic amino acid is a well-known agent for improving sleep disturbances. Previous studies suggest that L-theanine exerts its relaxant effect by enhancing GABA levels.
In animal studies, L-theanine was shown to oppose caffeine’s effect and promote sedation. In addition to its relaxant potency, L-theanine has a neuroprotective role since it acts as a glutamate receptor antagonist, upregulates GABA receptors, and increases the expression of antioxidant enzymes.
- https://doi.org/10.3389/fnut.2022.874254

Magnolol is OTC, usually sold in capaules.

Magnolia bark contains magnolol, metabolized to tetrahydromagnolol and honokiol, with both GABA-ergic/cannabimimetic activities
- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28517911/

Phytol is sold online in several places.

It is postulated that the phytol is able to elevate the neurotransmitter GABA levels in central nervous system through its inhibitory action on one of the GABA degradative enzymes, SSADH.
- https://doi.org/10.1007/BF02976937

 

[Pirrracetamol]

Anyone looking for a benzo alternative or taper aid (other than phytol and magnolol):

Niacinamide/nicotinamide is OTC. 50-200mg daily with carbs/sugar. Larger doses are often counterproductive.
Start with 50mg and slowly increase the dose.



Theanine powder is OTC, the dose range is 100mg to 1g+

Why do you say take it with carbs/sugar?

 

[gmanzalready1]

same here

 

[Pirrracetamol]

I think whoever said it was massively stoned at the time and thought it would be funny to say that.

 

[paranoid android]

Temazepam is by far my fav benzo. I forget how much i used to take back in the day

 

[gmanzalready1]

I can absolutely say that the Indian Rlam-1 Alprazolam/Xanex is very hit and miss you either get Xanex which we all know the bitter taste of or they are simply paracetamol. It's like 70% paracetamol 30% Xanex. Ksol is no different now either it's hardly ever Xanex it's Bromazepam if your lucky. It's just not worth the waste of cash anymore. Far too many fake pills out there now speaking from somebody who lives in the UK.

true that's why I get mine tested getting bromazolam diazepam alprax all are real only nitrazepam is causing a problem super strong.sleep then waken at night 4am.so will need to adjust back of them to Diaz and alprazolam works better for sleep only benzos IV taken NITRAZEPAM has been so fast acting fast tolerance.

 

[gmanzalready1]

I can absolutely say that the Indian Rlam-1 Alprazolam/Xanex is very hit and miss you either get Xanex which we all know the bitter taste of or they are simply paracetamol. It's like 70% paracetamol 30% Xanex. Ksol is no different now either it's hardly ever Xanex it's Bromazepam if your lucky. It's just not worth the waste of cash anymore. Far too many fake pills out there now speaking from somebody who lives in the UK.

they are bunk Indian benzos rlam etc are pure fae

 

[gmanzalready1]

they are bunk Indian benzos rlam etc are pure fake

 

[Pirrracetamol]

Anyone looking for a benzo alternative or taper aid (other than phytol and magnolol):

Niacinamide/nicotinamide is OTC. 50-200mg daily with carbs/sugar. Larger doses are often counterproductive. That's not a joke.
Start with 50mg and cautiously increase the dose.



Theanine powder is OTC, the dose range is 100mg to 1g+


Magnolol is OTC, usually sold in capaules.


Phytol is sold online in several places.

I don't find it anywhere close to a Benzodiazepine alternative.

 

[gmanzalready1]

I don't find it anywhere close to a Benzodiazepine alternative.

so why say the above nothing helps benzo w/d.only tapering down helps massively

 

[gmanzalready1]

lol, too funny……so true

When I administered IM injection of Avizafone (Pro-Diazepam) once in bloodstream its rapidly metabolized into l-Lysine and the API being Diazepam (Valium). …..a RAPID acting water soluable pro-drug with 100% bioavailability and reaches C-Max in 0.5h as compared to 1.5h oral Diazepam

Any-who……I gave myself a shot in the shoulder…….felt nice & relaxed in 30min but made the stupid decision of taking another shot + Methadone 25mg tablet

Woke up 4 hours later with ZERO recollection of what happened…….its just soooooo RAPIDLY acting and before you know it, you’re freakin LIT


BEST Benzodiazepine compounds I’ve had large quantities of, and extensive history and 1st hand experience with.

Etizolam & Deschloroetizolam (BOTH……AMAZINGLY potent & effect anxiolytic & antidepressant analogs)

Diclazepam (2-Chloro Diazepam) synthasized by same polish chemist who also made Librium, Valium, Klonopin, etc.
it’s also essentially a “pro-drug” but active in its own right. Diclazepam has 3 active metabolites that are legally prescribed around the world.

Diclazepam > Delorazepam >> Lorazepam (Ativan) 200+ hours still detected in urine & bloodstream

Diclazepam 3mg is a proper dose for a 200lbs + tolerant male …..which in 24h is fully metabolized into Delorazepam (licensed in Italy as a potent loooong acting anxiolytic benzo) 78h half-life……..then, it’s slowly and gradually metabolized into Lorazepam (Ativan) which everyone knows about

Avizafone (Pro-Diazepam) 22.5mg IM injection equal to Valium (Diazepam) 10mg oral ……but extremely rapid acting water soluable (featuring a significantly higher C-Max and faster T-Max)

Valium (Diazepam)
Xanax (Alprazolam)
Ativan (Lorazepam)
Klonopin (Clonazepam) …..have had them all.

Valium & Xanax are the most important, useful, potent benzodiazepines with their each highlights ……both worth their weight in gold

However…….I would Sooooo acquire a massive quantity (10-20grams) of pharmaceutical grade Diclazepam (2-Chloro Diazepam) as it is the longest acting effective anxiolytic benzodiazepine that’s invaluable for safe gradual tapering or a single 3mg oral dose would provide effective anxiolytic effects for 3-5 days)

Etizolam 1mg
Deschloroetizolam 6mg ……Both are VERY Euphoric and pleasurable Theinotriazolodiazepines highly selective for the a2 & a3 subunit sites responsible for anxiolytic & antidepressant (mood-boosting) properties

Currently…..I have been through 9,000mg of quality Avizafone (Pro-Diazepam) ……9 separate orders of 1 gram quantities, which gives me 10 to 15 potent IM administered doses

I'm looking into this with research IV made inquiries and china is the place and I think they won't send a small amount like 5 grams of any lro benzo.