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My recent experience with various benzos

Yaaa man, there’s something about that infamous “Brompton Cocktail” …..it’s like an oral Speedball but enhanced/tailored to one’s needs

The bare bones staple is a euphoric opioid & dopaminergic stimulant, which synergies amazingly for serious chronic pain, each complimented the other (in my entire life, the only time I experienced true euphoric pleasure was oral Oxycodone & Ritalin (Methylphenidate) nearly identical in the inner happiness, comfort, content, the ultimate antidepressant/mood-boosting compound

Opioid - Oxycodone
Dopaminergic stimulant- Methylphenidate or d-Amphetamine
Benzodiazepine- Diazepam & Alprazolam
Gabapentinoid - Pregabalin / Gabapentin / Phenibut
Ethanol - Gin or Rum cocktails 3-4 over a few hours with each cigarette

All tablets pulverized into powder, mixed in glass with few oz of hot water to dissolve, add orange juice to mask bitter taste, add little cold water…….drink mixture on empty stomach. 30-45 min onset creeps in / 1h nearly peak serum levels in bloodstream

15-20 years of legal scripts for nearly all , chronic pain, fully tolerant 240 lbs / 6’ male dosage customized for my tolerance, perfectly safe. Not to be played with but wow lol

Pain fee, anxiety relief and mood-boosting pleasure (in addition to depo-testosterone 200mg IM every 1.5 weeks) great energy, moodboosting antidepressant and sexual energy
 
Clonazepam 2mg this morning - anxiety gone, completely and with no high, maybe slight sedation. If this lasts most the day then I've found my benzo to deal with my issues. Diazepam is good too but this worked quickly and more antianxiolytic for me personal. That said diazepam I had more abuse potential with it seems atm.

I have a mettalic taste in my mouth and got quite dry mouth - are these normal symptoms or not?

Anybody else found thing?

EDIT: this is combined with my daily 16mg bupe dose too, seem to work well together where other benzos leave me more sedated with that combo.
 
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lost weekend said:
Clonazepam in my opinion is best for anxiety, it's got a slightly less potential for abuse as it's not as euphoric as other benzos [if you can class benzos as euphoric] it just let's you live your day out ,but with every benzo it's hell on earth to quit which brings valium back into the fold as it stays in your system longer so you can go days without re dosing but not with Clonazepam it seems
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I have had 2mg of clonazepam and have found it the best for my anxiety issues (which often means I don't leave my house, sometimes my bedroom, for days) and it has no 'buzz' which as you say limits abuse potential for my addicted personality. IF this last a full waking day then I found what I need when I need it. I abuse most other benzo has there is potential for abuse with most I've come into contact with. I just want this anxiety issue dealt with one way or another. Its kind of a high in itself - how people 'normally' feel.

I do get a metallic aftertaste about 20 mins after swallowing the tablet and dry mouth, is this normal?
 
justme6263 said:
I have had 2mg of clonazepam and have found it the best for my anxiety issues (which often means I don't leave my house, sometimes my bedroom, for days) and it has no 'buzz' which as you say limits abuse potential for my addicted personality. IF this last a full waking day then I found what I need when I need it. I abuse most other benzo has there is potential for abuse with most I've come into contact with. I just want this anxiety issue dealt with one way or another. Its kind of a high in itself - how people 'normally' feel.

I do get a metallic aftertaste about 20 mins after swallowing the tablet and dry mouth, is this normal?
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You shouldn't get a metallic taste in your mouth with clonozopam, it should taste minty almost like candy.metalic tastes usually come from z drugs like zopiclone,it's horrible it makes every thing you drink and eat taste like metal.i don't know about the combination of bupe and clonozopam but I doubt it could leave that sort of taste although I've never taken bupe so can't say for sure ,hopefully someone else can help
 
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justme6263 said:
I have had 2mg of clonazepam and have found it the best for my anxiety issues (which often means I don't leave my house, sometimes my bedroom, for days) and it has no 'buzz' which as you say limits abuse potential for my addicted personality. IF this last a full waking day then I found what I need when I need it. I abuse most other benzo has there is potential for abuse with most I've come into contact with. I just want this anxiety issue dealt with one way or another. Its kind of a high in itself - how people 'normally' feel.

I do get a metallic aftertaste about 20 mins after swallowing the tablet and dry mouth, is this normal?
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I know what you mean the high from benzos is just feeling comfortable in your own skin and being able to get shit done and interact with people .the main problem with benzos and there are several lol is tolerance .it builds so quickly you soon need more and more .if you stick to k pins and don't touch any other benzo then 2mg in morning and 2mg at night should suffice if you have a very high tolerance at the moment .
 
lost weekend said:
You shouldn't get a metallic taste in your mouth with clonozopam, it should taste minty almost like candy.metalic tastes usually come from z drugs like zopiclone,it's horrible it makes every thing you drink and eat taste like metal.i don't know about the combination of bupe and clonozopam but I doubt it could leave that sort of taste although I've never taken bupe so can't say for sure ,hopefully someone else can help
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Its not a taste after letting it dissolve sublingually, sublingually it is sweet with a slightly mint like lingering taste. I don't like z drugs and know their feeling very well - never have liked z drugs.
 
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lost weekend said:
I know I hate them I don't know how anyone could ever abuse them .
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Sorry for all the questions but I know some people are prescribed clonazepam and pregablin together and they take them together fine - as it relates to myself, I've had 2mg clonazepam when I woke at 8am and still have lingering anxiety and paranoia, I have some 200mg pregabs, would adding in one 200mg pregablin be helpful for that final bit of lingering anxiety (and to an extent paranoia) and more importantly would this be safe?

EDIT: I am also on 16mg bupe which I've had this morning.
 
I am lucky my doc prescribes diazepam liberally so all diazepam I have ever tried is pure pharma.

Flunitrazepam is awesome but very hard to get prescribed anymore.

I currently have a solid stash of pharma diazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam and my new personal favourite though it's obviously not pharma is bromazolam.

I also have a nice stash of 500mg carisoprodol which combines beautifully with pretty much all of them though I haven't tried it with clonazepam yet...currently enjoying 3mg bromazolam, 10mg diazepam and 500mg of soma, very nice combo on top of my methadone.
 
vision conquest said:
I am lucky my doc prescribes diazepam liberally so all diazepam I have ever tried is pure pharma.

Flunitrazepam is awesome but very hard to get prescribed anymore.

I currently have a solid stash of pharma diazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam and my new personal favourite though it's obviously not pharma is bromazolam.

I also have a nice stash of 500mg carisoprodol which combines beautifully with pretty much all of them though I haven't tried it with clonazepam yet...currently enjoying 3mg bromazolam, 10mg diazepam and 500mg of soma, very nice combo on top of my methadone.
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Bold - I hear this from people often and also hear others who hate it. Personally, I hate it. I had some 'diazepam' which after taking was clearly not diazepam I got tested and it was Bromazolam. Obviously the dosages of these pills couldn't be given to me as the org doesn't provide that service - it just knocked me the fuck out for 6 hours. Can I ask a question - what is it about this that you like? What kind of dosages are considered therapeutic and what recreational?

Bold italic - I really want to try Carisoprodol/SOMA because I've heard some good things from many people, what is it about this that you enjoy?

I am on a bupe program 16mg daily.
 
justme6263 said:
Bold - I hear this from people often and also hear others who hate it. Personally, I hate it. I had some 'diazepam' which after taking was clearly not diazepam I got tested and it was Bromazolam. Obviously the dosages of these pills couldn't be given to me as the org doesn't provide that service - it just knocked me the fuck out for 6 hours. Can I ask a question - what is it about this that you like? What kind of dosages are considered therapeutic and what recreational?

Bold italic - I really want to try Carisoprodol/SOMA because I've heard some good things from many people, what is it about this that you enjoy?

I am on a bupe program 16mg daily.
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I have a diagnosed ptsd plus an anxiety/panic disorder so I am almost always in a hyper aroused state of anxiety benzos give me relief that is so extreme that I experience a degree of euthoria when I take them.
I don't have to take extreme doses, more than the average person as my tolerence is higher but i
only take slightly higher than what would be considered theraputic doses.


In a word escapism and the soma just seems to provide an additive effect to the benzos.
 
I have been using illicit, counterfeit benzos and finding myself having increasingly unpredictable and dangerous experiences.

We get "Mylan" 2mg Alprazolam "pies" here, which are not alpraz, they used to be etizolam but I believe them to be clonazolam now. They are bulky as round pills scored into quarters. Every single xanax bar ive had in the last 3 years has been totally bunk, both sandoz and phizer. These "pies" are always potent af, my non-tolerant parter has 1/4, I have 2 usually. They are fucking dangerous, cause full on blackouts and have unpredictable and dangerous effects that have caused me to stop using them and have decided to switch to either Clonazepam, Diazepam or Lorazepam. All counterfeit too but definitely safer than these "Mylans". I know these Mylans are not Alpraz but the kpins have effects that line up with clonaz, who knows whether or not they are but they take the same amount of time to kick in, they last as long as clonaz, I dont blackout and they feel very much like kpins should.

I plan to give the Kpins and Ativan a go first and if they end up being unpredictable and/or dangerous too ill give the 10mg Diazepams a go.
Im in the process of quitting heroin, meth and whatever other fucked up substamces ive been ingesting and plan to just use cannabis edibles and benzos for a short while before I give them all up.
Im currently high as heck on IV meth, got a shot of H and a few xannies left for the comedown that I am not looking forward to at all tomorrow. The only thing good about it is my shot of H and benzos plus the dose of edible THC I have. Luckily im still high as fuck lol
 
justme6263 said:
Sorry for all the questions but I know some people are prescribed clonazepam and pregablin together and they take them together fine - as it relates to myself, I've had 2mg clonazepam when I woke at 8am and still have lingering anxiety and paranoia, I have some 200mg pregabs, would adding in one 200mg pregablin be helpful for that final bit of lingering anxiety (and to an extent paranoia) and more importantly would this be safe?

EDIT: I am also on 16mg bupe which I've had this morning.
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It maybe the old chestnut tolerance .I once had premium diazapam ,the first night was bliss with 10mg and no tolerance but the next few nights i could eat 80 mg and had no notacible effect appart from waking very early in the morning. I am still convinced clonozopam is the way to go .just from my own experience. When I wasn't going mad with benzos 2mg in morning and 2mg at night was all I needed ,that's just to face daily life.
 
the_ketaman said:
I have been using illicit, counterfeit benzos and finding myself having increasingly unpredictable and dangerous experiences.

We get "Mylan" 2mg Alprazolam "pies" here, which are not alpraz, they used to be etizolam but I believe them to be clonazolam now. They are bulky as round pills scored into quarters. Every single xanax bar ive had in the last 3 years has been totally bunk, both sandoz and phizer. These "pies" are always potent af, my non-tolerant parter has 1/4, I have 2 usually. They are fucking dangerous, cause full on blackouts and have unpredictable and dangerous effects that have caused me to stop using them and have decided to switch to either Clonazepam, Diazepam or Lorazepam. All counterfeit too but definitely safer than these "Mylans". I know these Mylans are not Alpraz but the kpins have effects that line up with clonaz, who knows whether or not they are but they take the same amount of time to kick in, they last as long as clonaz, I dont blackout and they feel very much like kpins should.

I plan to give the Kpins and Ativan a go first and if they end up being unpredictable and/or dangerous too ill give the 10mg Diazepams a go.
Im in the process of quitting heroin, meth and whatever other fucked up substamces ive been ingesting and plan to just use cannabis edibles and benzos for a short while before I give them all up.
Im currently high as heck on IV meth, got a shot of H and a few xannies left for the comedown that I am not looking forward to at all tomorrow. The only thing good about it is my shot of H and benzos plus the dose of edible THC I have. Luckily im still high as fuck lol
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Xanax is the devil of all benzos you might get your hands on .I stay used to stay well clear of it .it ends relationships when mixed with fruit juice lol
 
the_ketaman said:
I have been using illicit, counterfeit benzos and finding myself having increasingly unpredictable and dangerous experiences.

We get "Mylan" 2mg Alprazolam "pies" here, which are not alpraz, they used to be etizolam but I believe them to be clonazolam now. They are bulky as round pills scored into quarters. Every single xanax bar ive had in the last 3 years has been totally bunk, both sandoz and phizer. These "pies" are always potent af, my non-tolerant parter has 1/4, I have 2 usually. They are fucking dangerous, cause full on blackouts and have unpredictable and dangerous effects that have caused me to stop using them and have decided to switch to either Clonazepam, Diazepam or Lorazepam. All counterfeit too but definitely safer than these "Mylans". I know these Mylans are not Alpraz but the kpins have effects that line up with clonaz, who knows whether or not they are but they take the same amount of time to kick in, they last as long as clonaz, I dont blackout and they feel very much like kpins should.

I plan to give the Kpins and Ativan a go first and if they end up being unpredictable and/or dangerous too ill give the 10mg Diazepams a go.
Im in the process of quitting heroin, meth and whatever other fucked up substamces ive been ingesting and plan to just use cannabis edibles and benzos for a short while before I give them all up.
Im currently high as heck on IV meth, got a shot of H and a few xannies left for the comedown that I am not looking forward to at all tomorrow. The only thing good about it is my shot of H and benzos plus the dose of edible THC I have. Luckily im still high as fuck lol
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Don't over do it
 
vision conquest said:
I am lucky my doc prescribes diazepam liberally so all diazepam I have ever tried is pure pharma.

Flunitrazepam is awesome but very hard to get prescribed anymore.

I currently have a solid stash of pharma diazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam and my new personal favourite though it's obviously not pharma is bromazolam.

I also have a nice stash of 500mg carisoprodol which combines beautifully with pretty much all of them though I haven't tried it with clonazepam yet...currently enjoying 3mg bromazolam, 10mg diazepam and 500mg of soma, very nice combo on top of my methadone.
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Sad your Soma. Carisoprodol stash is gone now :ROFLMAO: ,
you ment stash of 500 gram i assume.
Never had it, in my country they out-phased it, well Meprobamate.
Long ago, i d love to try it. Curiosity kills the Cat though.

Is it good, like GHB like ?
 
lost weekend said:
It maybe the old chestnut tolerance .I once had premium diazapam ,the first night was bliss with 10mg and no tolerance but the next few nights i could eat 80 mg and had no notacible effect appart from waking very early in the morning. I am still convinced clonozopam is the way to go .just from my own experience. When I wasn't going mad with benzos 2mg in morning and 2mg at night was all I needed ,that's just to face daily life.
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I think I will stick with the Clonazepam - I added in that 200mg of Pregab and it did take the edge off but I hadn't taken pregab for a good while and forgot how wobbly it makes me... So I've taken to trying to white knuckle a 'benzo break' and take 200mg pregab but split between 100mg morning and 100mg if I need it later in the day, then switch. I don't want a pregab tolerance and especially habit cus I have a more difficult time accessing pregabs reliably for some reason. I also don't want a benzo habbit either but I suspect (not sure) that I may have fucked it there - I guess I will find out soon enough.

I hate the bolded bit because they really do what they are made for so effectively, so reliable at allowing me be able to just leave my house. I can't leave my front door unless I am on H or a Benzo, even though I live with family I still have crippling anxiety indoors.
 
vision conquest said:
I have a diagnosed ptsd plus an anxiety/panic disorder so I am almost always in a hyper aroused state of anxiety benzos give me relief that is so extreme that I experience a degree of euthoria when I take them.
I don't have to take extreme doses, more than the average person as my tolerence is higher but i
only take slightly higher than what would be considered theraputic doses.


In a word escapism and the soma just seems to provide an additive effect to the benzos.
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Escapism is the thing isn't it, sending love brother/sister
 
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