Deleted member 77372
Bluelighter
i apoligize upfront for ranting on a public forum, if you are one of those poeple who hate hearing others rant i advise you to stop reading right now.
but seriously this is a growing trend and to be honest im getting tired of seeing it. im not a moderator nor am i in any position of authority, however i am pro-harm reduction and thats all that should matter.
im getting fucking sick of shit like this:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=4478
every single solitary time a person says they think a pill *MIGHT* contain Heroin, Cocaine, PCP, LSD or any other unlikely substance that would be in a pill, everybody jumps on the oppurtunity to flame the living shit out of them.
person 1: "i fealt really lazy and tired on this pill, i think it might have heroin in it"
Person 2: "OMG U FUCKING MORON NEWB NOBODY PUTS HEROIN IN PILLS YOUR SO DUMB OMG"
seriously, does flameing him to hell and back make you feel good or something? like your better than him because you are stateing the obviouse assumption that its *UNLIKELY* (NOT impossible) for a pill pressor to cut a pill with a substance like heroin or cocaine? yes your absolutly right it probably is unlikely! but all he is trying to do is notify everyone that his pill did NOT feel like NORMAL MDMA should! does that mean its heroin ? no, a more adequite guess might be something like diphenhydrimine. maybe the person is not familure with the effects of that drug, is that his fault? not the least bit.
this is supposed to be a HARM REDUCTION SITE, assuming ANY SUBSTANCE cant, for whatever reason, be in a pill, is FOOLISH, STUPID, and definatly NOT ruducing harmful drug awareness. i praise anybody taking the time to right a report and informing us that they didnt feel right off the pill they took and trying to the best of their knowledge to tell us what they think might be in it.
come on now its not like ecstasy pills are FDA inspected before they hit the streets, their could be anything from MDMA to AJAX in those pills. sure coke and heroin are expensive to most poeple, in most places. but we have no idea of the circumstances of a pill manufacturer and their connections/resources or their reasons for doing things. does it make sense for them to put coke in a pill? not really. Does it make any sense for them to put ANYTHING OTHER THAN MDMA IN A PILL? not to me, not even METH, DXM or one of the other dozen cuts we find constantly in pills.
For example: DXM
a pill on average is what, 250mg? id say rougly about half of that is binders/fillers. that leaves what, 100-150mg of DXM in the pill? i know of no-one who has had any effects on 100-150mg of DXM, so assuming the pressor thinks poeple arent going to be popping 5-7 pills (which if that were the case, adding cocaine to a pill would then serve a purpose, but its not) i think its safe to say adding this is pointless, and they would be better off pressing a blank pill thats 100% fillers/binders.
Meth: this one is a little better at sneaking in because it has somewhat similure effects (i use the terms "somewhat similure" very loosely) to the newer less experienced users. it would probably make them a little more money if they are like a 5:1 ratio mdma:meth. but making the entire pill meth is also a very foolish move.
if a pressor is going to fill a pill being passed off as ecstasy with ANY drug OTHER than MDMA, they obviously are doing it knowing damn well once everybody buys the pill and takes it, and see's that its not mdma. they are not going to buy pills of that press/batch again (im talking mass amounts, not kids buying 1 or 2). so they must be doing it with the intent to just sell it all off as fast as possible before anybody notices its not mdma. if this is true then why dont they just not put ANYTHING in the pill?
my point is METH, DXM, COCAINE, AJAX, MOTOR OIL. whatever the cut is, it costs money. its not the fact that cutting pills with "heroin and cocaine" doesnt make sense. its that CUTTING PILLS PERIOD DOESNT MAKE MUCH SENSE. half the shit that goes on in the drug trade doesnt make sense. thats why its a black market.
and that is why we have sites like enlighten and PR and BL. harm reduction and drug awareness. assuming anything about something thats produced illegally is foolish. so for those who feel the need to flame poeple who are just trying to help you, i say:
!!!
and for the record plenty of pills have had coke in them. i dont know why, or how much, or if they made/lost money. all i know is it happens, not all the time but it does. fentanyl too.
/end rant
but seriously this is a growing trend and to be honest im getting tired of seeing it. im not a moderator nor am i in any position of authority, however i am pro-harm reduction and thats all that should matter.
im getting fucking sick of shit like this:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=4478
every single solitary time a person says they think a pill *MIGHT* contain Heroin, Cocaine, PCP, LSD or any other unlikely substance that would be in a pill, everybody jumps on the oppurtunity to flame the living shit out of them.
person 1: "i fealt really lazy and tired on this pill, i think it might have heroin in it"
Person 2: "OMG U FUCKING MORON NEWB NOBODY PUTS HEROIN IN PILLS YOUR SO DUMB OMG"
seriously, does flameing him to hell and back make you feel good or something? like your better than him because you are stateing the obviouse assumption that its *UNLIKELY* (NOT impossible) for a pill pressor to cut a pill with a substance like heroin or cocaine? yes your absolutly right it probably is unlikely! but all he is trying to do is notify everyone that his pill did NOT feel like NORMAL MDMA should! does that mean its heroin ? no, a more adequite guess might be something like diphenhydrimine. maybe the person is not familure with the effects of that drug, is that his fault? not the least bit.
this is supposed to be a HARM REDUCTION SITE, assuming ANY SUBSTANCE cant, for whatever reason, be in a pill, is FOOLISH, STUPID, and definatly NOT ruducing harmful drug awareness. i praise anybody taking the time to right a report and informing us that they didnt feel right off the pill they took and trying to the best of their knowledge to tell us what they think might be in it.
come on now its not like ecstasy pills are FDA inspected before they hit the streets, their could be anything from MDMA to AJAX in those pills. sure coke and heroin are expensive to most poeple, in most places. but we have no idea of the circumstances of a pill manufacturer and their connections/resources or their reasons for doing things. does it make sense for them to put coke in a pill? not really. Does it make any sense for them to put ANYTHING OTHER THAN MDMA IN A PILL? not to me, not even METH, DXM or one of the other dozen cuts we find constantly in pills.
For example: DXM
a pill on average is what, 250mg? id say rougly about half of that is binders/fillers. that leaves what, 100-150mg of DXM in the pill? i know of no-one who has had any effects on 100-150mg of DXM, so assuming the pressor thinks poeple arent going to be popping 5-7 pills (which if that were the case, adding cocaine to a pill would then serve a purpose, but its not) i think its safe to say adding this is pointless, and they would be better off pressing a blank pill thats 100% fillers/binders.
Meth: this one is a little better at sneaking in because it has somewhat similure effects (i use the terms "somewhat similure" very loosely) to the newer less experienced users. it would probably make them a little more money if they are like a 5:1 ratio mdma:meth. but making the entire pill meth is also a very foolish move.
if a pressor is going to fill a pill being passed off as ecstasy with ANY drug OTHER than MDMA, they obviously are doing it knowing damn well once everybody buys the pill and takes it, and see's that its not mdma. they are not going to buy pills of that press/batch again (im talking mass amounts, not kids buying 1 or 2). so they must be doing it with the intent to just sell it all off as fast as possible before anybody notices its not mdma. if this is true then why dont they just not put ANYTHING in the pill?
my point is METH, DXM, COCAINE, AJAX, MOTOR OIL. whatever the cut is, it costs money. its not the fact that cutting pills with "heroin and cocaine" doesnt make sense. its that CUTTING PILLS PERIOD DOESNT MAKE MUCH SENSE. half the shit that goes on in the drug trade doesnt make sense. thats why its a black market.
and that is why we have sites like enlighten and PR and BL. harm reduction and drug awareness. assuming anything about something thats produced illegally is foolish. so for those who feel the need to flame poeple who are just trying to help you, i say:
!!!and for the record plenty of pills have had coke in them. i dont know why, or how much, or if they made/lost money. all i know is it happens, not all the time but it does. fentanyl too.
/end rant
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