My new HR idea, Youtube info videos.

[static_mind]

Hey everybody. How we all doing? Ah yeah.

I was just milling around the house having a beer and searching for porn when I decided to check out youtube (not for porn). Someone I know tried 4-FMA for the first time so I decided to bash that into the Youtube search. Got nothing, which was of no suprise. Then I got an idea.

Bing!

With so much disinfomation all over the internet we could make our own unbias videos on each drug say about 5 min long. They could cover pretty much everything out there but most importantly the commonly abused drugs like Ecstacy and Weed. They should be for everyone to see as I envision that users, drug virgins and teenagers mothers will be watching. They have to be short and sweet so people don't get bored.

The videos should have a simmiler format but still be flexable. For instance the video on Ecstacy should start by talking about what it is and what forms it takes. Then move onto the effects of the drugs then dangers and harms. Then talk about statistics and then have people of intrest having a little talk. Hopefully we could get people like Shulgin give say a 30sec input, have a doctor or someone have a 30sec input, someone who leads the antidrug crusade 30sec and maybe a user or someone else of intrest.

The video's have to be unbias and crediable.

I also envision other videos made for users only (but viewable for all) about harm reduction. For ecstacy it would talk about facts and stuff and then give a demo about how to test pills and show a video of the reagent testers reacting to different drugs

I think the first videos would be able to stay up but the second HR videos might be in breach of some terms or something.

The videos should show useful links (only a few so it doesn't get cluttered) like Bluelight. This idea I believe might eventualy get picked up by the media and the news might then reach a larger group (and thus the videos would become more popular). People in the field could be ready to talk to the media and give us a good spin (like Phase_Dancer or DrPlatapus).

We have to sound smart and not full of shit so the videos shouldn't contain any prodrug propogander (such as people going on about how all drugs should be legal).

The 3rd videos should be about some radioactively enhanced supermen that have to stop a villian from building a giant gravity gun which he hopes to fire and pull the earth into the sun. For a change the villian should win as the allied doctors only made the SAS troopers very very ill when the bombarded them with radiation and pretty much made them useless.

That's my idea, all 3 videos are very very important to each other and might not make any sense if one of the classes is ignored.

Eh eh?

statics idea, please be gentle.

Related Topics
Harm Reduction- Where do we go from here?
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=419043&highlight=harm+reduction

 

[filenet]

i must say that I was somewhat confused by your incoherent rambling until it came to the third video concept, where it all made perfect sense!

I'm hearing ya - 'radioactively enhanced supermen', giant gravity gun', 'allied doctors'.......it's all there! Fucking LARGE!

 

[baysieguy1]

I actually like this idea - Hey Phase Dancer you there??? What do you think on this, sounds like good HR education to me!

 

[MazDan]

I like the idea to.

How would you go about implementing it?

 

[cudds]

fantastic idea

 

[Mr Blonde]

That's an awesome idea brother, I'm willing to help you with this in any way I can.

 

[static_mind]

That's an awesome idea brother, I'm willing to help you with this in any way I can.

Well I don't really know all that much about video editing or gravity guns so I hear by hand the project over to Mr Blonde and the BL staff.

Were all counting on you Mr blonde Make us proud.

Also I think there should be a small tag at the end of the videos with a donation option for BL.

 

[hoptis]

lol @ static mind's avatar.

Interesting thread. IMO, the first category of content you're talking about is something that, to me, is covered well enough in many other mediums. Not saying it doesn't have a place in online video but when it comes to facts/figures/stats/descriptions... well it's nice to have authority figures put their views forward but it doesn't really require video. Some might argue the medium is more effective for the younger generation, the target of all our material should be drug users and in Australia these days, that demographic is getting younger and younger.

What is of real interest to me is the second category of content, and that is videos showing safe drug use. The sort of things that multimedia is infinitely better suited to conveying over text or even pictures and probably far easier to produce than having to travel from state to state gathering interviews with people, these would overwhelmingly have to be user-produced.

On Bluelight we have instructions for things like pill testing, codeine cold-water extraction, how to filter & inject meth/heroin, purify meth/mdma/cocaine, fax acid and so on. Some of this stuff easily falls into what I would consider some of the most controversial content on BL, if a picture speaks a thousand words, than video of this sort of instruction would be a thousand times as controversial.

Would you envision these types of instructional videos as being part of this?

 

[Jakeperson]

Well why not. These are all vital parts of HR and not only that, educating some one on how to purify their meth before shooting up could save them a world of trouble since it's such an easy procedure.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Well I don't really know all that much about video editing or gravity guns so I hear by hand the project over to Mr Blonde and the BL staff.

Were all counting on you Mr blonde Make us proud.

Also I think there should be a small tag at the end of the videos with a donation option for BL.

Well, I have no video editing skills but I do have the power of networking and connections, I know a couple of people who might be able to help out with this who study or have experience with video editing.

And donations for the win.

 

[blau1005]

^ I think I could offer some editing and composition skills, having studied film making and working in a multimedia studio. Currently I have access to Vegas Pro for editing but not Final Cut Pro so any collaborative work would need to be with Vegas. I also have a reasonable connection with quota to burn so don't mind downloading clips from other people.

Five minutes is actually quite long, and although there is a lot of content to cover, I can't help but feel that people will be turned off by a video of that length. In my experience, one of the biggest mistakes of amateur productions is pacing; things need to be fast, fast, fast! With that in mind I would suggest perhaps multiple videos for each drug, for example, one covering basics, another health issues, another legalities etc.

Another concern with this type of production would be the level of collaboration. It can be hard to get even a small project off the ground when you know the people, but trying to coordinate such an effort over the internet with anonymous contributors is bloody difficult. It can be done, but it wouldn't be easy and may take a long time or suffer lower quality. Not to pour water on the fire, just being realistic about the challenges of the project.

And of course videos like this would need to be impeccably researched and completely impartial. These things can easily be construed as propaganda, but I agree that well made videos could be seen as providing an honest approach to drug education and harm minimisation.

EDIT: Oh, and you really need to be careful with the legalities of the videos themselves. It's one thing to admit drug use on a forum, it's another to post a video of yourself possessing and perhaps taking an illicit substance. Of course things like reagent testing could be done with paracetamol tablets, but just something to keep in mind.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Five minutes is actually quite long, and although there is a lot of content to cover, I can't help but feel that people will be turned off by a video of that length

This is why my band will never hit the mainstream; with our music we probe the outer depths and the journey can be a long and frustrating one.

Regarding collaboration: perhaps if we could assemble teams in separate locales that are able to work together to produce one video each?

And legality: I believe we would have to avoid being seen to promote drug use, as this is illegal here I think?

 

[Salty24]

I can hook you guys up with any of the latest and best software you would need for free as this sounds like a great idea.

 

[Jakeperson]

Maybe make the video's shorter and create an account on youtube called Bluelight. We can have multiple video aimed at multiple different things.

Don't use faces and have a MOD from here upload them all and have all the contributors as anonymous so that it can't be traced?

 

[hoptis]

Bluelight was taken (as is usually the case) so I grabbed something else.

 

[peaked]

There is a lot of potential in this idea. There are many topics of harm minimization that I believe would be expressed more clearly through a video medium. Simple extractions (such as for codeine) seem to generate a great deal of discussion by newer users who aren't entirely sure on the procedure, or the risks associated with it.

However, I also believe there to be an increased risk for those who partake in these videos, namely that they will be providing irrefutable evidence of drug use and or manufacture.

Some of the discussions on here, such as purifying meth, are generally based from a hypothetical point of view. By providing this in a video format, the best way to express the procedure would be by showing it step by step - thus incriminating yourself.

Although one could potentially substitute the illegal substances in the videos for something legal (such as a cold water extraction on panadol instead of panadeine), this might add confusion to some of the viewers. They may expect to see things exactly as they would appear in real life, rather than having to use their imagination for parts. Diagrams could also be used along with a voice recording to avoid incrimination, but the way I see it, that would have no advantage over offering the information in the traditional means with text and images.

That said, the potential for expression of information through videos vs traditional means cannot be ignored. There is something very powerful about seeing these ideas discussed by a real person, rather than reading text on a screen.

There are other advantages that video has over text too. Viral marketing, for example, could be a cheap method of spreading the ideas of Harm minimization to the mainstream population.

 

[Mr Blonde]

There are other advantages that video has over text too. Viral marketing, for example, could be a cheap method of spreading the ideas of Harm minimization to the mainstream population.

I think this is one of the reasons this idea appealed to me; there is the potential for a lot of people to learn more about HR very quickly. Can you imagine if this took off? Controversy and discussion would abound! Any publicity is good publicity, after all.

Regarding your legal concerns and ensuring the integrity of demonstrations, this will require some thought and planning. We need a BL Legal Department... unless we already have one?

 

[Sykik]

Wow, great idea staticmind,

The videos would depending on how they are made get people in a lot of trouble when redneck ANTI-drug parents storm the parliment saying shut down you-tube cause its teaching my virgin daughters how to take drugs SAFELY!... simpsons epidsode about itchy and scrathcy being banned by Marge anyone?

But back to the issue, this is a great idea, idiot kids that no nothing of BL, YET they love surfing you-tube. Another advantage with this medium is that it is somewhat 'free' of censorship. You can say what you like without it edited by today-tonight, 60minutes say.

One will have to read the term and conditions of you-tubes video uploading rules. Cause i think HR and drug talk may be some grey area, and if the project gets attacked from head on we must have our rebutals ready and well scripted.

But there are other video hosting websites that have less stringent rules, however youtube would be the best place to post them as it is the most crediable. And credability is second to HR.

But i'm with this, I don't know what I could offer to this project, maybe some feedback as a beta veiwer before it is released maybe? but lets hope this project comes together.

 

[dribble]

I think video is the way to go too static_mind
There are awesome stats out now that young people prefer to search on youtube for information rather than google.

We are actually in the process of making a couple of HR videos very similar to this through a project at our organisation and are in discussions with the IHRA about other short videos.

If anyone from Bluelight would like to collaborate or have input into these videos I'd love your help. They could also then be considered for the Bluelight (or similar?) youtube channel.

I'd also be keen to help anybody here with making any HR short films. We could possibly provide the production crew (would depend on the film though...)

 

[Jakeperson]

Could the extractions be done with out showing the persons face or they wear a balaclava etc?

Although a balaclava would make us look some what like terrorists and cause more media hype, haha.