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Warped Reality

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My 14 year old little brother has recently got himself into Ecstasy, and I've told him that it's stupid and he shouldn't be fucking with it, but he won't listen.

Anyways, he's done it about 6 times now, in about two months, and lately he's had some problems with de-realization, anxiety, and depression, and the de-realization REALLY scared him, he had a mental breakdown in the middle of my house because he thought he was going insane, and all I could tell him was "that's what happens when you abuse stupid drugs.".

Anyways, I gave him some tips, I said eat good, sleep good, take vitamins, and take some 5-htp, then I went out and bought him some vitamin-c, and 5-htp, but it says for ADULTS to take it three times a day. Anyways, he's about 130lbs, 5'5, and 14 years old. I was wondering how much times a day he should take it, what times he should take it at, or if he should just take 3 all at once...

I suggested that he stars with one in the morning, then takes another at lunch for a month to see how he feels, but I don't know if 2 will be enough? I'm not too experienced with this stuff. Anyways, any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Warped Reality said:
My 14 year old little brother has recently got himself into Ecstasy, and I've told him that it's stupid and he shouldn't be fucking with it, but he won't listen.

Anyways, he's done it about 6 times now, in about two months, and lately he's had some problems with de-realization, anxiety, and depression, and the de-realization REALLY scared him, he had a mental breakdown in the middle of my house because he thought he was going insane, and all I could tell him was "that's what happens when you abuse stupid drugs.".

Anyways, I gave him some tips, I said eat good, sleep good, take vitamins, and take some 5-htp, then I went out and bought him some vitamin-c, and 5-htp, but it says for ADULTS to take it three times a day. Anyways, he's about 130lbs, 5'5, and 14 years old. I was wondering how much times a day he should take it, what times he should take it at, or if he should just take 3 all at once...

I suggested that he stars with one in the morning, then takes another at lunch for a month to see how he feels, but I don't know if 2 will be enough? I'm not too experienced with this stuff. Anyways, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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The placebo effect is great - tell him that two per day is more than enough BUT these episodes will only increase the more he uses.
 
Warped Reality said:
My 14 year old little brother has recently got himself into Ecstasy, and I've told him that it's stupid and he shouldn't be fucking with it, but he won't listen.

Anyways, he's done it about 6 times now, in about two months, and lately he's had some problems with de-realization, anxiety, and depression, and the de-realization REALLY scared him, he had a mental breakdown in the middle of my house because he thought he was going insane, and all I could tell him was "that's what happens when you abuse stupid drugs.".

Anyways, I gave him some tips, I said eat good, sleep good, take vitamins, and take some 5-htp, then I went out and bought him some vitamin-c, and 5-htp, but it says for ADULTS to take it three times a day. Anyways, he's about 130lbs, 5'5, and 14 years old. I was wondering how much times a day he should take it, what times he should take it at, or if he should just take 3 all at once...

I suggested that he stars with one in the morning, then takes another at lunch for a month to see how he feels, but I don't know if 2 will be enough? I'm not too experienced with this stuff. Anyways, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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My brother got a asswhopping.
 
i would say 50mg in the morning and 50mg at night.

if need be, take 100mg in the morning and 100mg at night.

im 5ft 6in and 125lbs and depending on how much e i take i usually take 2 or sometime 3. 100mg 5htp at morning noon and night. or just morning and night. for the next 2 or 3 days.


or let him learn the hard way??
 
yikes, he's opened pandora's box very early

they should really regulate drugs to keep this kind of damage from happening

educate him, inform him of long term effects of ecstacy

also i read that L-tryptophan is safer then 5-HTP (but they do basically the same thing)
 
5htp just fucks with the serotonin receptors in a way that they don't need being fucked with. I have read 5htp + tianeptine may enhance reuptake from the receptors and boost serotonin levels, but I couldn't find much documentation on it. when taking 5htp, the brain is being fed serotonin so the receptors get used to not producing it and reuptaking it normally, a form of psychological 'dependence'.

Honestly though, the best thing for him to do is stop rolling for a long time. Give the brain time to heal
 
pontifex01 said:
I started taking pills when I was 16, my brother when he was 15, and it's the one thing I will always, always regret. That shit absolutely fucked both of our adolescences up (he ended up with schizophrenia, I got off with 2 years of depression).
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8o schizophrenia? how bad like full blown hallucination/delusion/voices severe paranoid schizophrenia or just a little bit of mild paranoia/delusion kind?
 
6 times in 2 months is way too often, especially with someone so young - at 14 his brain is undergoing massive changes all on its own with no help from Dr Shulgin's children. He's gotta slow down & give his brain chemistry enough time to reset. I'd say at least a month, maybe 2 or 3 in between rolls. If not he's just asking for more severe reactions like depression, intense mood swings, possibly induced schizophrenia. All the pre-post-whatever loading won't do diddly if he's not giving his body a lot of time to return to a balanced state. It's like taking a glass of water & constantly shaking it around. It's never going to have a calm surface & occasionally you'll get a buildup that spills over, until you sit it down & leave it the fuck alone.
 
And I'm not talking about using this for pre-loading, I mean to help recover... He's not doing Ecstasy anymore.
 
I think most of the 5-HTP hype is just that, hype. What he needs is stability, structure, attention. Get into a habit of checking in with him on how he's feeling, watch for mood swings or odd behavior. Give him positive reinforcement, listen without judging & let him know you're safe to open up to. And if he does slip, accept it, talk about why it happened & work with him to find ways to prevent it from happening again. That more than any supplement is what's going to help see him through this crisis.
 
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