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TenDollarBagel

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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. i live in vista california, im 16 and i go to military school(because im a piece of shit). and its my first year going to military school. ive been smoking weed since 7th grade. i went into 8th grade smoking weed everyday then inn 9th grade i was skating with some friends one night and watched a good friend of mine get hit and killed in a hit and run. i think about about him everyday at least 10 times since it happened. then i started smoking ALOT. and i started getting caught by cops and shit for stupid stuff. then summer after 9th grade i shroomed and ate 5grams for my first time. it was alll good until the last excorsism commercial came on in the tv in the background. i went into a deep nightmare and my friends said i just put my head between my knees and started drooling for 20 mins until i came baack. aftr that i started feeling like my whole life is a bad trip(always in pain) and whenever i even smoke weed now its a REALLY bad trip. and also alcohol barely effects me now. i started noticing i had horrible tunnel vision and bad anxiety and destructive memory. afterr that i started trying out different drugs. then one day i tried smoking black tar. i instantly liked the calming effect and ive been doing it ever since. i started thinking i had schizophrenia and shit. then 1 month ago i went to a phychiatrist and he toold me i have severe ptsd. my parents cant afford or just buy the meds prescribed. and the only way to feel better is smoke h. but the withdrawl is horible because i cant afford it. and slowly i noticed the withdrawl got worse and even if i wait a week then smoke 1 night. the next day i will feel like MASSIVE SHIT! does the withdrawl level ever go down over time some how? and yea peace. LOVE and<3 JAH
P.S. oh and i know what ever disorder shit i have is gonna kill me young if i dont find a miracle cure soon. also it is destroying my future too. i havent done work in school for like 6 months
 
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I would suggest going on Suboxone. Is this the medication you can't afford? There is a Suboxone Assistance Program out there.

If you are talking about another medication, one which is supposed to treat PTSD, what is your psychiatrist trying to prescribe you?

It would make sense that you have PTSD from watching your best friend being killed in a hit-and-run. Just try to stay strong and get on the right medication which will help you. You may need to try one, two, or many before finding the right drug or combo of drugs that can help you past this.

Overall, this is a post that belongs more in The Dark Side than it does Other Drugs. I'll move it over there.

Just be careful to read and follow the rules for The Dark Side.
 
Hey man, I really extend my true sympathy for the shit you have been going through man. I can't imagine it. You got to stay strong man and know that there's people out there that care about you and would only want to support you with what you are dealing with. Don't keep it to yourself. I know how hard it can be to open up, but it will help you so much to talk to someone. I used to even phone that kids help phone line, fuck when I was like 22 even. I know that might sound silly but, just explaining what I was going through to someone would really help alot (and I would never think it would beforehand). If you ever want to chat or anything feel free to PM me. I hope things get better for you brother but you should really think about suboxone or something, H is evil man. And I know all about it :p
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yea, what C.H. said- go on suboxone or try methadone if u can (it is inconvenient unless u live in a city).

w/d doesn't get easier until, and this is my story, I abused lots of dissociatives and went crazy for about 4 days every other week for about 2 months. and this is after ten years of opiate abuse and 6 years after iv heroin abuse. I wouldnt follow my path.

too bad u are a greenlighter. u should try to contact me because i'd like to talk to u to help u further
 
I hope the Celexa helps.. best of luck man.

As for all the people recommending Suboxone or methadone.. he is 16 years old and doesn't even have a real habit I don't see how starting a maintenance drug is a good idea in any way for him.

Maintenance should never be used as a first line of defense. It helps a lot of people but it is not the inherent solution to a drug habit. Especially in situations like these where he is obviously using drugs to cover up emotional pain of a friends death. You need to work through the problems rather then cover them up with more drugs.

I've seen way to many people with tiny habits end up way worse because they picked up an even heavier habit via maintenance.
 
i dont want to sound like a pussy that is whining about shit on the internet or anything but. i haveent done any kind of drug for about 2 weeks now(other than drinking at parties). i still have bad anxiety and flashbacks and depression and i still have weird moments through my day were i start tripping out like feeling my hand go through my other hand or weird shit like that. and i have noticed that if i take a nap during the day like during class. and i wake up 10 mins later i get weird stop motion where my vision keeps skipping like pausing and playing for like 6 mins after waking up. is that normal doe?
 
it doesn't sound like his addicted, so sub will not work for him.

because smoking H will get lots more expensive eventually, once you start building tolerance.

if your parents can't afford the med, there are usually some government programs that might give you discount.

Plus celexa cost around $150 per-month, I pretty sure ur parents can afford it.

unless they don't want you to be on it, but I recommend you take your doctor's advice And take it
 
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Plus celexa cost around $150 per-month, I pretty sure ur parents can afford it.t

Not if you live near a walmart. For the generic (citalopram) it cost me, $10 for a 90 day supply of 40mg pills. No insurance needed. I'm off them now, but its still available. Here's the link to the walmart pharmacy, you can view a list of all the medication included in this deal.:)

<removed link. feel free to Google Walmart --OverDone>
 
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my dad wont buy me it because i guess my mom had depression and she took this stuff and didnt get better
 
Hey watch your mouth young man, you're a mother fucking Jimi Hendrix fan, and no Hendrix fan is ever a piece of shit in my eyes! Keep your head up and be proud of who you are.
Other than that it sounds like you could benefit from some real therapy, and unfortunately REAL therapy is hard to find. DBT (dialectical behavioral therapy) is a beautiful thing if followed through properly. Even just hearing about the ideas can benefit a person greatly, but seriously doing the recommended work they give you will help a ton. Try to find a hospital or some sort of program, I have health insurance so it's easier for me, idk what situation you're in, but you gotta look into something other than just a psychiatrist.
I don't think anti depressants alone will ever help anyone completely, a situation like your requires full support in all areas of your life, not just the chemical, but your mom having depression and you having PTSD/drug problems are two totally different things that you need to explain to your dad.
 
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tonight i went to my dads house and my friend was with me and he flipped out and started pushing me and shit and i told him im getting an emancipation. but he said to just run away and shit. soo i went to my moms apartment and i really want to just have my own apartment. is that possible? im 16
 
alright

You have to find a way to cope with what had happened with your friend, and to get over the bad shroom trip, it seems to me that you had a strong reaction to what you saw (exorcism commercial) and overreacted massively... who knows what went through your head, I surely don't...

Many many people go through horrible experiences in their lives, you are still very young and your mind is learning and growing still...
Don't make the mistake of running off from your family, you realize your dad is trying to help you because he realized those med's didn't help your mother when she was on them... Maybe he's got a point but you should talk to him and try to see if he is willing to try it for your benefit... Why risk a possibly benefit...
You should also try and be open about your drug use with them (IF ITS POSSIBLE IN YOUR SITUATION) make him realize the low this depression has brought you to... You are just emotionally unstable right now and it's understandable, I've been there before, many people have..
(Think, flashback memories to being 5 years old and hiding in the basement waiting for the sound of rockets and explosions to go away, flashforward to being in a car and seeing a handless man with melting skin on his face/arms begging for change... flash forward to my mom stabbing me with a pencil as a kid to hearing about how my grandmother stabbed my mother with a knife when she was younger... I've had some FUCKED up revelations in my life, psychedelics; shrooms, LSD and a single Datura OD brought these suppressed memories out, but i've learned to deal with them, it was my mental struggle)
I got many stories, war is hell, there are many stories you don't hear because people simply won't talk about them... some memories are best left suppressed...


I hope you get better soon bud.

Just remember not to act so irrational at times... everything happens for a reason, even your own deep emotions about various topics, sometimes you don't need to know everything to be at peace with things...

Look into symptoms of HPPD (Is considered a disorder but really shouldn't be)
I have a feeling those "Schizo" tendancies are from this and possible from the heroin use and you not realizing further reactions to whats happening to your mind..
 
well i havent done anything other than drinking in 3 weeks i think. and i read about HPPD and i dont think i have that. i feel i have a very bad tunnel vision like vision problem and i have a contstant headache but its not a normal headache. also the ringing in my ears(head) isnt always ringing. like in class i constantly hear someone moving around. or the ring of a tv. or something. and alot of other really severe symptoms are destroyying me. i went from popular getting girlfriends and partying every night. to the kid that no one listens to and is extremely akward around most people........ oh and also ANOTHER REALKLY important thing. i dont really get flashbacks of what happened. i am just in constant stress and pain
 
Do whatever you have to do to get better. Sorta shitty advice I guess, but it's the truth. Not to say meds/dr.'s can't help. On the contrary, they can help immensely. You just gotta have that perspective where anything is better than where you're at/were at. Any friend's you could move in with? My cousins used to live in Vista, so I'll see if they know of any safe houses or anything (they're recovering oxy addicts and they ran the gambit as well).
 
It was the Mushrooms

I have some experience with psychedelic induced depression/mania.

My nightmare has been from MDMA and is slowly coming to an end after 5 horrid months.

MDMA works on the serotonin system in the brain.
It is toxic, especially in higher or repeated doses.

LSD also acts on the serotonin system, and is much less toxic.
But some people still get fucked up on LSD...they see visuals or tracers for months/years. The visual cortex is targeted here.

Mushrooms also affect the serotonin system, sir.
Its toxicity is probably somewhere between LSD and MDMA.
5 grams is a heavy dose, too. 1-2 grams should be plenty.

Something you need to understand is that the serotonin system is VERY complex. It is thought to be the MOST complex of all the neurotransmitter systems by many scientists. The nerves that comprise the serotonin system are much longer and tree like than other nerves in the brain. They start in the back of your brain near the spinal cord and branch out in a massively dense web that stretches throughout the entire brain.

Despite the complex and far reaching nature of this network, most of your serotonin is NOT in the brain. It's in the intestines.
95% of it!

The primary purpose of serotonin is digestion.
Think about that.

The connection between the intestines and the brain is what these drugs are playing with. And this connection is one of the most complex in the body.

That is why serotonin based drugs are known as psychedelics.

Because there is a large variation in the serotonin network from person to person, there will also be a large variation in the reaction to psychedelics from person to person.

I have taken mushrooms on four occasions, but never more than 1.5 grams. On three of these occasions I have found it to be LOTS of fun...with intense bouts of laughter. Movies are awesome.

But one time, I had a terrible trip. I hadn't eaten anything that day, despite working a 12 hour shift. I only ate 1gram but my trip started getting WAY too strong. My hands and feet turned ICE cold and sweaty...I could feel pins and needles on them so strong it HURT. My head was swimming....the room was spinning. Kinda like being WAY too drunk.

After a pounding heart, lots of crying, proclaiming I was going to die and such....after an hour of terror it started to taper off.
Then I made it through.

This should have been a warning sign that maybe I am more sensitive to serotonin agents than other people. Maybe it was just having an empty digestive tract...
Remember, this system is complicated as fuck.
BUT, I didn't learn my lesson quite yet, and a stronger toxin eventually taught me once and for all.

My point is that you should learn from this experience.
Leave psychedelic drugs alone.
If you can't, for god's sake, take reasonable doses (not 5 grams).
Research any drug use in ADVANCE. Spend time finding out from other people's experience what the risks are.

There are harm reduction strategies, too....such as taking LOTS of vitamin C. It would have offered some protection in your case.

The most important harm reduction strategy is to NOT do the drugs, of course. But most of us on Bluelight will compromise and say "in the very least you should limit your use". Even hardcore experienced drug users know this much. They also say to 'know your dose' and 'test your shit'.

I personally know 2 people that had major consequences from mushrooms.

One of them had an appendix taken out the day after his trip. He had HORRIBLE intestinal cramping and pain. And a fever.
I'm not sure his appendix was the real problem, but that's what they did. He's fine now.

The other guy had it much worse. He did mushrooms on a regular basis, sometimes days in a row. He often took 2-4 grams.

Five days after one of his trips, he had HORRIBLE intestinal pain as well. It was so bad, he thought he was going to die. He even got to the point of writing 'goodbye' letters to friends and family. Then, he too had surgery.

The surgeons removed a piece of intestine that was 'telescoping'. I think that means one section of muscle isn't working, so the muscle above it is straining way too much. They also told him that in his large intestine, he had a narrow section, but they didn't do anything to it. He had to change his diet massively.

He stopped smoking weed for a year because it would give him panic attacks. He had panic attacks regardless. After a year or so he came back to earth.

Now, five years later, he still has mild depression and sometimes has intestinal pain if he eats the wrong things.
He is much much better....sometimes TOO laid back. He says he can't feel anxiety about normal things anymore.

By the way, one of my primary complaints in MY recovery has been digestion. My intestines couldn't handle anything other than liquids during the first month. Believe me, I thought I was going to die.

If you have been able to keep eating....and you are not having panic attacks, then you will be OK.

Even if you were that bad, you will still be OK.
But it takes TIME.
And not days....normally weeks or months.

What you did is you burned out some of the nerves in your brain that connect to the intestines. This is going to cause problems such as increased cortisol and mood swings. It can also make you feel dull and disconnected from your entire body.
It is also likely causing certain regions of the brain to experience INCREASED blood flow. This is why you are getting mind-bending head pressure. The 'weird headaches' are caused by this strange pattern of bloodflow. It is also a big part of your healing process...so remember that next time you feel like freaking out.

The good news is the brain is resilient.
In fact, this type of damage usually does not involve any scar tissue, which is important. This allows for these nerves to pop back up. But the brain takes a long time in repairing itself. Some people take 2-4 years to feel human again!

You are not going to take that long. From your description you are not that far down the rabbit hole. You will probably be OK within a few weeks. Maybe a couple months.
But TRUST me, you will be OK.

But whatever you do, DO NOT do any more mushrooms....or ANY serotonin drugs (psychedelics). No exceptions.

In the very least wait until you are older....there is some belief that these alterations in the serotonin system may be more pronounced in younger, less developed brains.

You also said weed makes you feel worse. That is because weed increases serotonin in the brain, which causes anxiety. If that's the case, lay off of smoking for a while. Until your brain has restored the serotonin network to full capacity, you do NOT have the storage space for this extra serotonin.

I know it sucks, but this advice is the best you got right now.

Want to speed up the process?
Exercise.
I swear it will help, big time. Working out seems to speed up time in regards to the brain's recovery. Its like skipping days!
Just understand that the benefits increase with more exercise. Don't expect to feel better overnight. After 3-4 days I always feel MUCH better.

Also, eat a healthy diet....lay off the french fries and carbs. Carbs also increase serotonin in the brain.
Eat lots of fruit and veggies....lots of protein.
Take fish oil supplements and a multivitamin.

By the way, the idea that you might be schizophrenic is not far from the truth. Many ex-users of psychedelics have symptoms that are nearly indistinguishable from schizophrenia.

BUT, doctors will not actually diagnose you as a schizo until at LEAST one year after your drug use has passed.
Keep in mind that schizophrenia is not well understood.
But there are some basic guidelines...

Coming down with symptoms suddenly, such as from drug use, is better than having a SLOW drawn-out slide downhill. You are more likely to recover completely.
Being aware of your symptoms is another good sign.

Two of the MOST common symptoms in REAL schizophrenics:
1. Believing that other people are always looking at you or talking about you.
2. Talking to yourself and hearing voices.

These are considered hallmarks of the disorder, but there are many other symptoms. I don't have either of these. I hope you don't either.

Please keep in mind that many schizophrenics do experience a full and permanent recovery. Remember, the brain is resilient.
Also, the word schizophrenia is a heavy word. It has lots of implications despite the fact that we don't really know what the cause is. Don't focus on it too much, just try to understand that you have something in common with it.

You will be ok, but while your brain is recovering from too many mushrooms, life is going to suck. There is NO way around it. You MUST go through it.

The black tar is BAD news. I understand why you are taking it though. The system being targeted here is the opiate receptor. It is still functional and it brings you some real relief.
I myself take MILD prescription opiates....like tramadol.

But Black Tar is WAY WAY too strong, buddy.
Ask a doctor for tramadol....I promise they are safer.
If you keep doing the heroin, you are risking your fucking life.

You know why heroin is so dangerous?
It won't hurt your organs or your brain directly.
But it CAN stop your breathing.
Just do a LITTLE too much of it....and you can no longer use your diaphragm muscles. You will suffocate if nobody is there to do CPR on you. If you don't die, you may still have permanent brain damage due to hypoxia!

Heroin is one of the most dangerous drugs out there.
Trust me on this one.
I have done extensive research involving psychedelics, and I have seen TIME and TIME again....heroin users say that their recovery is MUCH worse than any other drug.

Just look around on the 'Dark Side' for some heroin or opiate addicts. You will see for yourself.
Do NOT go down that rabbit hole, buddy.
It is much deeper than the one you find yourself in now.

What you need to do is wait.
If you can get a prescription for mild opiates from a doctor and take SMALL doses, it will help. But for god's sake, LAY OFF the black tar.

This is nothing but a waiting game.
The brain doesn't heal in the time that we experience life in.
You think in days, but the brain heals in months.
12 months doesn't sound like that many, does it?
Forget about days and focus on the long run.

Lay off the damn weed and the tar. Don't try, do it.

Be a man and take the suffering that lies ahead of you. You have to. When its over, you will have something to be proud of yourself for...and you will gain lots of wisdom from the experience.
There is no way around the shitty weeks/months to come....you can only go through it. The only question is are you going to slow it down or restart the process by doing more drugs? Or do you want to speed it up?

Work out and eat right, and I PROMISE you will feel relief. You will also speed up the whole damn process!
You can do it.
 
Forgot to mention...

Ringing in the ears is from serotonin up-regulation in your temporal lobes.

It will stop soon. I have had it myself for months, but now it is gone completely.

The tunnel vision is serotonin up-regulation in your occipital lobe. It may take longer to stop, but it will also improve a LOT with time. The visual cortex is more sensitive to damage than other parts of the brain so it may take longer.

I imagine both of these get worse for you when you are having anxiety. Try to realize that when this is happening you are probably digesting. Within 2 hours of eating food my symptoms always get worse! It takes at least an hour or two of suffering for it to stop.

When I take a shit, I feel better. 8o

Remember your gut is in control here, not your brain.
Eat as healthy as possible and you will lessen your symptoms.

Less carbs, more protein...

Good luck.
 
you are my hero "first bad comedown". you probably just saved my life (directly or indirectly). you have given me a goal. it all makes sense finally. i am going to read this everyday i wake up in the morning.

but one question is what about my memory. i feel like every morning i foget about everything and i randomaly remember stuff through the day. also everything feels like im doing it for the first time.


another question is can i still drink? or occasionally smoke brown? because thats what i look forward to and i know it sounds weird but its peaceful to know i can go home lock the door and just smoke h till i fall asleep.
THANK AGAIN
 
You did drugs at a young age. Your mind was developing in middle school & you were feeding it with psychedelics & weed which might be the reason you are suffering depression & what not. This will take some time for your brain to heal but you will need to stay away from drugs.
 
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