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Recovery My journey starts today (hydromorphone)

Bro, good for you on day 40, that's huge!! Are you running fully o' natural? Or are you using any kind of sleep aid?

I guess because I'm still feeling some acute withdrawal I'm just so fucking dragged out. But at least cutting back on the benzo I'm not as dead like.

Another day... Here I come!


thanks sixxam! im actually 47 days today i think, but nope not fully natural i take a xan every now and then to get 3 extra hours sleep its all the short acting xans give me. I try not to do them everynight i never had a problem with benzos before i remember back a couple years i worked with someone that would give me all i wanted so i even did them almost everyday for a couple months and stopped without any effects. I always keep em around cause of a once every other month anxiety attack i dont anxiety attacks as often now. When i went to my regular doc after a month of not much sleep he prescibed me trazodone which i threw in the garbage after one night i had the worse fucking vivid nitemare of my life way too realistic for me. But my ace in the whole turns out to be the lyrica i have left from wds originally i weened myself off it the first week of wds, but since it works so good for the nerve pain in my feet i was taking one now and then and noticed they were my best nights sleep. lyrica doesnt scare me but my goal was to take nothing well lifes pains are not that easy, now i only take one xan a week but a lyrica a couple times a week. Best of luck to you bro
 
Sorry to hear the insomnia is fucking with you. It's so brutal, especially over the long run...just wears you down. (fwiw, I'm in a similar spot. Very little sleep these days.)

What do you mean when you say things are getting weird?
 
Man shit is getting weird from no sleep...


I hear ya bro hang in there fuckin insomnia is my worst part of paws it was starting to make me nuts my skin crawling all day. I never needed more than 5 or 6 hours sleep before wd now i get 2 or 3 hours at a time i try my best to stay up till midnight like i did before wds mainly now because there is nothing fucking worse than falling asleep at 9 waking up before midnight and then being up till work at 6. Drives me nuts and the madder i get the less chance of going back to sleep. A week ago i got so pissed off laying in bed i ripped off my tee shirt hulk style in anger fucking insomnia! I get my best night sleep from lyrica if i take a xan it gives me no more than 3 hours sleep hang in there bro it gets better little at a time.
 
Man, the rage is starting to really set in today. Uncontrollable.

I went for my first walk today, about a half hour with my dogs, that was nice and it felt good to stretch out and get moving. But gosh am I tired.

I tried switching phones today and my iTunes isn't updated, MY Mac books are pissing me off, I ended up throwing the 1200 dollar phone at the wall. Not a good idea with no sleep.

But weird I mean everything's just off. Everything's moving like a base drum... Having a hard time today.

Shit,i haven't taken any benzos......
 
Hope you get some sleep soon bro.. Insomnia is the worst part of the whole process imo. Sending you my love mate. You're a tough cunt, you can do this. I say that affectionately as an Aussie.
 
Haha, thanks brother. I got a chuckle outta that. It's something I'd say. I'm glad I can vent here and you guys get it! I feel better after taking my clonazepam.
 
Yeah man. I saw my addiction doc just yesterday. He told me to not worry about benzo use for now if it's helping me sleep. I get the anger thing too. I've been yelling at my bosses and sending furious emails which is so out of character. I guess when we've dulled our emotions when they come back we haven't learned how to do. poor/no sleep isn't helping. We'll get there man it's just time the only way out is through.
 
For sure man, I'm ready to put in the time. Your kicking ass and watching guys like you, sim and VE go hard at this, is giving me the drive to stick it through. Plus I don't think I can do another detox like that.

I'm praying that I can get back to work in a week or so. Something to keep my mind busy.. I'm just so foggy and slow.
 
Thanks bro! Since I came 't completely clean with my wife, she's more focused on pretending I'm cheating then the real problem. I'm a fucking drug addict! I don't get it.... Men vs woman I suppose. But in exhaustion I don't have the strength to fight.
 
Congrats on the much-needed sleep! That must feel really fucking good.

I wanted to respond to your description of the state of things with your wife. Mostly, what I have to say "me too." When I blew all the secrets away, my wife was understandably pissed. I can't blame her for that; I lied like a motherfucker. But it is frustrating when our spouses' wounds become another challenge to face during recovery. In my case, it's not that my wife suspects me of cheating... but if I ever tell her I'm struggling (with cravings, motivation, etc.) she gets angry and reminds me that if I fuck up again she's leaving me. The rational part of me understands where she's coming from. But more emotionally, I feel like she's kicking me while I'm down and asking for a hand up.

The truth is, for now I've just decided that until she and I can heal up more, my wife just can't really be a confidant in my recovery...not a fair position to put her in.

But it IS super dispiriting not to have your spouse in your corner during all this shit. Sorry to hear that's happening.
 
The hours of heavily induced lorazepam sleep. Thank God!


Good for you bro! i wish i had lorazepam all i have is short acting xans that dont give me much sleep couple hours, lyrica i have actually gives me better sleep. Hang in there trust i had to rewire my whole body after being on oxys everyday for over 20 years i got this whole different body now some things good some bad but all different. Between insomnia, fucking bowels all over the place, anger issues prbably from insomnia. Everything changed my fucking tastebuds energy of course and just the absence of a good pain reliever atleast i can smoke weed whenever i want now. gotta keep looking at the positives no matter how few early on.
 
I said fuck it and decided to work today! I'm hurting but pushing through. Chat soon guys.

Hang tough
Sixx
 
I said fuck it and decided to work today! I'm hurting but pushing through. Chat soon guys.

Hang tough
Sixx


What a damn tank, good luck today mate. I'm finding throwing myself at my job really helps. Just having something else to focus on is great.
 
Six -

Super awesome that you are at work! It's funny, you say I'm an inspiration and keeping you going - truth is that you are an inspiration to me. I need people like you who are following behind me so I don't make a mistake and trip you guys up along the way. It's a weird kinda reverse pressure that I didn't think about before embarking on this mission of mine.

Also, I'm sorry your wife is getting jealous and insecure. The upside is that there is NO WAY she could think you are cheating when you are laid up in acute wds - right? I would bet that her fear about real ways she could lose you (drugs) are manifesting as fake ways to lose you (cheating).

Im excited to hear how your first day back at work went! Keep on keeping on.

- VE
 
Having been on both sides of it, I think Simao is right. Your wife just can't be the person you "come clean" to about everything.

Addiction is a family disease. For you to function as an addict, it took a lot of support from from her, so she is dealing with a lot of guilt and shame right now, too. That's why the 12 step programs give you a sponsor to come clean to, someone who is totally uninvolved and who isn't harboring unresolved resentments and feelings of guilt related to years of enabling and ignoring problematic behaviors. She's dealing with her own stuff right now, too.
 
Sweet Jesus, sleep is coming....I slept almost three hours... Yay!

Kickitnow, thanks man....I figured I'd my limbs are gonna crawl and my back is gonna be in pain I might as well make some money, right? Luckily I'm the boss and didn't have to deal with the public, other then phone or email.

VE, I think we can all work together to keep each other motivated and remind ourselves where we either want to be, or not want to be. For me, I need to see people with as much clean time as you. Because that's a very attainable goal for me. So reading about your recovery.... Rocky or not, is important insight to me. And I'm sure my recovery reminds you exactly of why you do not wanna do this again? Keep going girl... Your killing it and I can't wait to tell you I have 2,3,4 months clean time ?

No, the wife doesn't think I'm activity cheating, I think it's more based on pembrokes comment, and the blind sided lack of trust. I have been with this woman three years now, living together a year (pregnant) and decided it was time to move ahead in our relationship.

What this girl did not know in Any way, was that I was a drug addict. Six months ago she started questioning if I was faithful because of my general lack of interest in sex... I was nod high all day everyday, you guys know that sex is the last thing on your mind. So I said fuck it I need to quit this shit, I have this beautiful new life full of positive. No dirt... Like my old life. So I told her I'd been on pain killers a few months and was having a hard time getting off them. This was my prior kick six months ago.. Well I immediately relapsed 3-6 weeks later and went right back to heavy dilaudid use. She had no idea. Well this time I decided that I need to really be honest with her and not down play this situation.. So I flat out told her...... Honey I'm a very serious drug addict... Again she was blind sided but took it like a champ and said what do we do.. And had basically been fully supportive. I decided to fully disclose my confections and give her full access to my phone anytime she wants, to check if I'm scoring.

Well instead of my addiction she decided to tear my phone apart and look for Any evidence or possibility of me cheating.... And I get it, that's fine. I deserve that. But in this instance she happened to be looking through my Facebook and checked blocked people. Yes, I'm a Justin beiber lookin motherfucker, girls do flirt and hit on me, yes I've blocked many that I thought I didn't need to be talking to. That's life..... I have been 100% faithful to her. And I do get her insecurities, given the circumstances. But there comes a line (imo) when it starts to hinder recovery vs anything.

Regardless, the following morning she apologised and said sorry, admitting she was in the wrong. I said no sweat mama, I get it. I'm the luckiest guy in the world to have such an amazing supportive partner. I just prey that I can continue to recover and make it up to her.

Pem, I get it bro, you're right in some ways. But my wife did not harbour my addiction at all. I literally hid it. I make good money and am the full supporter of our family of four. But I'll tell you.. 5-6k a month on dope is stressful.

Before leaving work everyday I made sure I had 5 30mg hydromorphone pills crushed up in an end mill container. With my straw. Something she often saw but thought nothing of. I was being real shady and secretive. The drug addict in me..

But yes, it is a family disease... She has watched mer detox twice now, which is pretty horrendous.. Especially of guard. And I get the general level of distrust. Hence me opening up and giving her full access to my everything.

I think we've agreed that she's welcome to check my phone whenever she likes. I'm good with that... But, tearing apart all the insignificant silly things trying to create non existent issues is not beneficial to either of us. Hopefully we can continue to push through from here and most off, keep me sober.

14 days clean, that was the worst kick yet, I hope it'll be my last.. I'm so glad sleep is starting to come in tiny spurts.

Work was hard..... I went in at 10-6 and buy the end I almost couldn't stand Any longer. I'm doing it again today. If rather be busy if I'm awake and in pain anyway.

You guys are awesome! Hang tough my friends.

Sixx
 
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