Stimulants My head is going to explode

[KhyaBean]

Ok so I recently relapsed after almost 6 years of being off meth. The past 2 days I've gotten an absolutely horrifyingly excruciating headache right after smoking. Yesterday it was behind my right eye, today it's my left eye/nasal area. Clearly the cause is the dope (or whatever it's cut with) and I plan on taking a little break. I did get about 7 hours of sleep last night and I ate 2 meals yesterday and 1 today so far. I take vitamins, and I drink 3-4 16oz water bottles per day plus at least 1 big poweraid and 2 or 3 glasses of milk. I do not believe dehydration/malnutrition/sleep deprivation are possible causes.

What I'd like to know is whether it would be better to take Tylenol, aspirin, or ibuprofen. I also have a prescription bottle of 500mg naproxen that I usually take for my back pain. I have abnormally low blood pressure, my bp averages around 70/50, going as low as 52/40 once (the nurse took it like 6 times because she didn't believe it was possible for me to be conscious with a bp that low). While on amphetamines my bp is generally a tad higher, 80/60-ish.

What would be the best thing to take for pain? I already get light headed every time I stand up because of my hypotension. I don't want to take anything that is going to make that worse. I generally do not like to mix drugs of any kind, but my head feels like it's going to explode and I need something asap.

 

[snazzy_sn]

i experience this pretty often. especially a day or two after. the headaches and the lightheadedness.
just keep doing what you're doing and try to take it easy.

i'm not sure what you should take for the pain, but i don't think any of the medications you listed pose any kind of serious risk.
try a hot hot shower/bath.

relax, hop back on the wagon, and everything will be fine.

 

[tricomb]

Probably your body's way of saying WHAT THE FUCK. I second the shower idea, then best avoid crystal like you know you should. Six years man, that's awesome, don't let two days of tweaking ruin six entire years off of methamp.

If you have any, Chelated Magnesium helps me with most side effects induced by d-MA.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Try taking 2x500mg Tylenol(APAP-Paracetemol) and 200mg ibuprofen.
Eat something first(even a slice of toast).
That should ease the headache.

 

[KhyaBean]

Tricomb - the last 2 days have been when I got the headaches. I relapsed a little over 2 months ago. I did that whole "I'm only going to do it for this one night" thing, which of course turned into "just this week" and then "just for a little while". 2 months later and I'm back to using pretty much everyday, and my tolerance is high enough already that I don't really get high anymore and I can sleep/eat if I choose to do so. Also, I started taking magnesium a week ago to help with my back spasms.

I will try the Tylenol/ibuprofen and see how that goes. A shower did nothing for me unfortunately.

 

[ErgicMergic]

Hey there, Khya Although you have been using for 2 months, you need realize how strong you are from staying away from the crystal for SIX YEARS. That's an amazing feat, considering crystal has the highest relapse rate of pretty much any drug. Don't let a little two months scare you away. You're a fucking strong guy/girl, and you can walk away from the glass dick whenever you want after a measly 2 months. The Dark Side has an amazing, experienced, and attentive staff and population, ask them for help if you'd like to, they'd be more than happy to be there for you.

Probably your body's way of saying WHAT THE FUCK.

Such a great point, listen to your body! If your body gives you a killer headache from the vasoconstrictive properties of d-MA, then research and accept all the other side effects amphetamines could be inflicting on your body and brain before numbing out that signal your body is sending to you with APAP/NSAID's. 68 oz of water daily is not even close to enough for an amphetamine user, by the way. That's only half of the recommended daily amount for someone who is not using stimulants. You should always be sipping on water when sober, but especially when on drugs like d-MA that use up water at an ungodly rate.

If you have any, Chelated Magnesium helps me with most side effects induced by d-MA.

Yes, Mg will help reduce neurotoxicity from crystal while preventing tolerance increases through its NMDA antagonism. Plus, it will help relieve Mg deficiency (which causes anxiety, panic attacks, heart attacks, brain fog, muscle spasms, etc.), which a majority of the population in 2012 has, as we don't eat nearly as many dark-colored vegetables as we used to.

 

[KhyaBean]

68 oz of water daily is not even close to enough for an amphetamine user, by the way. That's only half of the recommended daily amount for someone who is not using stimulants. You should always be sipping on water when sober, but especially when on drugs like d-MA that use up water at an ungodly rate.

It's a ton more water than I drink when I am sober. And keep in mind I'm getting an equal amount of other water based fluids (poweraid and milk). Pre relapse I drank zero water and drank 6 to 8 cups of coffee per day as pretty much my only liquid. It's almost funny that I take better care of myself when I'm using. I exercise more, my skin is clearer, I never let my hair get tangly (it's long, almost down to my ass) my teeth are whiter and my gums don't bleed anymore. I'm sure it's not going to last forever but for now my life has actually improved because of dope. Crazy right? Im kind of waiting for reality to slap in the face and tell me it doesn't work like that.

 

[ErgicMergic]

Those could be ways of justifying your usage, although those are all great things to do while high on amphetamines.

Why wait for your life to turn to shit to get a slap on the face from reality? Quitting is always toughest when your life is in bad shape. Why not cash in your chips now and walk away during your new crystal meth honeymoon period? That way you'll have a chance to stay away for a while again.

Who knows how bad your budding addiction will take your life this time? Do you really want to find out?

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Just a small point but I wanted to note that the general recommendation for daily water consumption is actually 64oz or 8 (z) cups per day but many feel even that is more than necessary. Also, almost any beverage will count toward this as well as fluids in the food you consume. Studies released recently even demonstrate that caffeinated beverages such as coffee and tea are as hydrating as water when consumed in moderation (caffeine becomes a diuretic in doses around 500mg or so).

That aside, great advice as usual, EM.

 

[tricomb]

I drink so much (decaf though, caffeine and IBS don't mix) tea and water, the more the better (obviously to an extent).

 

[KhyaBean]

Just a small point but I wanted to note that the general recommendation for daily water consumption is actually 64oz or 8 (z) cups per day but many feel even that is more than necessary. Also, almost any beverage will count toward this as well as fluids in the food you consume.

^ Thank you for pointing that out.

As for the rest of it, I am fully aware of the devastating effects of meth, and I'm not trying to justify anything. I know that it was a bad decision to get back into it, and I know that every day I continue leads me further down the path to tweakerville. I was merely pointing out that it is somewhat ironic that when I was clean I did a terrible job of taking care of myself. Yet now that I'm doing dope again, a substance which is infamous for its tendency to make you forget even the basics of hygiene, here I am healthier than I've ever been, getting regular sleep, eating well, hydrating, and keeping myself all prettiful. I just think its funny is all.

 

[ErgicMergic]

In that case, I would at least use it to your advantage to do things you normally wouldn't, like enrolling in college or taking extra classes if you're already enrolled? Or cleaning that garage that you never got around to? I'm not condoning your usage, I'm just sayin that if you're gonna use anyways, you might as well make the best of it. Or is that kind of what you meant when you said it improved your life, other than the hygiene?

By the way, C2L posted that comment based on the sober, non crystal-meth-using population. On a therapeutic dosage of IR Dexedrine, 7.5mg, with 3.75mg ephedrine, I find that I'll get a nasty vasoconstrictive headache if I don't keep occasionally sipping on water. I also eat a full meal every 3 hours on Dexedrine, every 4 hours if I forget to keep an eye on the clock, and that reduces pretty much all the side effects and keeps booster dosages working due to the replenishment of NT's from the protein/carbs/fats.

 

[KhyaBean]

I am reasonably sure that the headache is the result of a cut. I am getting a minimum of 100oz of fluids a day. It's not dehydration that's causing it.

I am a college graduate already, but I did just move into a new house that needs quite a bit of work done to it, and meth is making it easy to find the motivation to get off my ass. And yes, that is what I meant by "improved". I'm a firm believer that you should gain at least 1 positive thing from everything you do, drugs included. If you are going to be an addict, be the most productive addict anyone's ever seen.

 

[ErgicMergic]

You could try a simple acetone wash if you suspect a cut to be the issue here, not sure how to do this but you could use the search engine.

I'm a firm believer that you should gain at least 1 positive thing from everything you do, drugs included. If you are going to be an addict, be the most productive addict anyone's ever seen.

 

[JD55]

You need sleep my friend. I've found that sleeping even if it's just a one or two hour cat nap cures most problems that happen during a come down from that shit.

 

[KhyaBean]

You need sleep my friend. I've found that sleeping even if it's just a one or two hour cat nap cures most problems that happen during a come down from that shit.

As I stated in the original post, I do sleep. Generally for 6 to 8 hours a night.

 

['medicine cabinet']

Have you ever had a migraine headache before? A long time ago i took an "e" pill that turned out to be cut with dirty dirty speed and gave me one of the worst migraines ive ever had (been getting them for 23 years) and it felt just like you describe, pain behind the eyes, feeling like your head is going to literally blow up and your brain will start gushing out of your nose and ears. i would def not use that dope again, maybe try taking some magnesium with some caffeine and tylenol.

 

[KhyaBean]

Ive been getting migraines since I was 14. This was similar but not like my normal ones. Tylenol and ibuprofen + a cup of coffee worked pretty good and my dealer is a friend so I asked if I could get an exchange and he gave me some from a different source that doesn't appear to have whatever gave me the headaches.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Tylenol and ibuprofen + a cup of coffee worked pretty good

I'm glad it eased the pain a little.

 

[romealone]

Although you seem adamant that this is not due to dehydration, I would urge you to look into this possibility ESPECIALLY when considering your extreme hypotension. Your blood pressure is incredibly low, so low that I would suspect hypovolemia (low blood volume). Try increasing your daily water intake for a week, it can't hurt.