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my first time doing 2ci

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ok so, im doing 2ci for my first time tomorow and i have 30mg capsule and i was wondering(becuase ive head soooo many different debates about this) how much would be good for a first time? ive done LSD, shrooms, and mdma and was able to handle them very well. So what im really asking is, if i were to take the 30mg would i be in for a bad experience or would I be well off and be able to handle?
 
I did 20 for my first time and it didn't do much for me and was new to pyschs then. Go for the whole 30 playa.
 
while your mind may be strong enough for the full 2C-I experience, remember that these RCs seem to have much more varied response in particular individuals. If you can handle 5+g of mushrooms then the 2C-I should be a piece of cake (assuming you don't have an allergic reaction or it is some other drug being misrepresented). Be aware that 2C-I can have a very different bodyload that requires a different headspace to take control of, but IMO it's a very worthwhile psych right up there with LSD. Read about tricks to reduce the bodyload (herbal [decaffeinated] mint or ginger tea, 25-50mg of benadryl/diphenhydramine). Also as DwaneHoover has been proselytizing recently, Tums or other sources of [bi]carbonate will reduce stomach pH and increase absorption of the drug, while acids such as orange juice will reduce the efficiency if taken concurrently.

Personally I don't take 2C-I above 24mg, but many people enjoy the "full force" that a 30mg experience has to offer.
 
^ very good notes. I always found 25mg to be the sweet spot... less seemed like not enough to really trigger the "mega-trails" visual effect... more was a bit too much stimulation. But 30 was tolerable and made for even MORE intense visuals. I would say do NOT combine with benedryl, that is really only indicated for 2C-E's unique (and specific to it) physical side effects (nausea, weird discomfort & aches/pains) which dont seem that much of an issue with "I"... so it's best not to combine unless there is a reason... though I have read of those who thought the B benefited the I as well, so not certain about that. I would say if you have an accurate enough scale trim the dose back to 25, but who knows, it may be a little weak, as some batches I have had seemed for reasons I do not know, and the supplier may have been giving you the amount most of his customers have found fulfilling, so I would go with his judgement and do the whole 30 since you have handled those other things so well. Perhaps ONE beer, whose alcohol & hops might buffer the stimmyness a bit, as well as a little weed. Take on an empty stomach (food within 2-3 hours can slow absorption and blunt affect). You will start to feel something in 20-30 min, should be clearly ascending in 45, should plateau by 1.5-2hours. This period between 45-90 mins CAN be a little nerve rattling, but it can also be enjoyable if you know to expect it... DONT JUST SIT THERE gritting your teeth if so... MOVE YOUR BODY to burn off the excess energy, clean house to make for a more perfect trip space, dance to welcome and celebrate the approaching psychedelic mindstate, burn calming incense, play grounding music, etc. these things are all beneficial. KNOW THIS: in the transition from "coming on" to "plateau" (as with MDMA) the stimmyness will D I S S O L V E into the trippyness for the most part, it does not last the whole trip.

Of course beware, YMMV and all etc etc.
 
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DwayneHoover said:
Perhaps ONE beer, whose alcohol & hops might buffer the stimmyness a bit, as well as a little weed. Take on an empty stomach (food within 2-3 hours can slow absorption and blunt affect). You will start to feel something in 20-30 min, should be clearly ascending in 45, should plateau by 1.5-2hours. This period between 45-90 mins CAN be a little nerve rattling, but it can also be enjoyable if you know to expect it... DONT JUST SIT THERE gritting your teeth if so... MOVE YOUR BODY to burn off the excess energy, clean house to make for a more perfect trip space, dance to welcome and celebrate the approaching psychedelic mindstate, burn calming incense, play grounding music, etc. these things are all beneficial. KNOW THIS: in the transition from "coming on" to "plateau" (as with MDMA) the stimmyness will D I S S O L V E into the trippyness for the most part, it does not last the whole trip. I promise, this is genuinely expert advice. I've done and loved 2C-I many many times, and have introduced many people to it.
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QFT, the stimulation from 2C-X is almost nothing like amphetamine stimulation (which can usually be channeled into a non-physical activity like reading/writing) and almost demands the practice of yoga or other activities that help align your body with whatever it is in the world that helps you (moon, animals, grass...)
 
hahaha fashoo, thanks for the advice!! Ive decided to just do 25mg, ive alredy divided to what seems like 25mg, from what it looks like im pretty sure its the correct amount(knowing that clumping can totaly throw it off) and after this ill probably try 30mg later on when im more experienced with the drug. thanks for the help!
 
I have to say that the last time I had 2c-i the batch was good enough that honestly 10mg was all you needed to get a really nice trip off it (visuals and everything, sometimes even overwhelming at moments in terms of the trip). It really all depends on the person and the actual batch of the chemical you end up with, sometimes they're a little different and impurities are always possible.
 
^ You are very unusual (and fortunate!) to be so sensitive that 10mg gave a full-blown trip. The vast majority are not going to find that very effective, beyond mere stimulation. Of course if you have a bulk quantity there's nothing wrong with, and in fact it's advisable, doing it on multiple occasions (separated by at least a week) in escalating doses to determine where your personal sweet spot is at, which, as KyndDreams' post attests can well vary widely between individuals.

BTW, it's not "impurities" that causes some to need more than that... it was your unusual sentitivity that allowed you to do less. I and many many others have had 99% pure 2C-I from highly reputable vendors selling material from very professional labs that has undergone testing to confirm purity, and found 20-25mg to be ideal dosing.

If this "last time" batch of 2C-I you had seemed unusually potent compared to prior batches, I would suggest that perhaps this latest batch was in fact not 2C-I but substituted by your supplier with something else, or perhaps an error on their part (it has happened before, vendors shipping something labeled as A that was really B, due to either deliberate fraud or some accidengtal mixup of containers at their end). Although offhand I cannot think of a 2C that is fully effective as a psychedelic at the 10mg mark... perhaps 2C-P (which FYI seems to take longer to come on fully than 2C-I and tends to have more elaborately patterned visuals).
 
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More elaborated patterned visuals than 2c-p? Lol I don't think so dwayne ;) 2c-p is IMO the bees knees of 2c visuals up there with 2c-e and I know quite a few people put it as even more visual than 2c-e, but I suppose there is a somewhat large group of users who find 2c-i highly visual, I am sadly just not in that group (except for my first experience with the chem at 20mg insufflated, which produced and OBE and as you say "mega trails")
 
I always found that the 2CI trip was "warmer" than the LSD trip but "colder" than MDMA. It was almost as if 2CI was like between LSD and MDMA, but still completely different than an actual candyflip.

Also, I found that I could not end a 2CI trip until I went to sleep. In other words, as long as I stayed awake, I felt like I was still tripping. Even with 20mg
 
I'm not sure if 2c-i is warmer than LSD for me, but I would say it's just a giggly psychedelic with phen visuals. This is nothing akin to a candyflip, LSD or MDMA to me. It's just a recreational/potentially entactogenic psychedelic drug.
 
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More elaborated patterned visuals than 2c-p? Lol I don't think so dwayne ;)
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IamMe90, you mis-parsed what I was saying, which is in agreement with you... look at it again:
I said: "2C-P (which FYI seems to take longer to come on fully than 2C-I and tends to have more elaborately patterned visuals)."

In other words, distributing "2C-P" into each clause (separated by "and") within the parenthesis immediately following it:
- 2C-P seems to take longer to come on fully than 2C-I
- 2C-P tends to have more elaborately patterned visuals

Not to get overly pedantic about it (haha). Is English not your main language? ;) (just kidding, bro <3)

I totally agree, 2C-P is the bees-knees of 2C visuals... EXCEPT for HOT-7 which has it beat for CLOSED eye visuals, but not open eye, for which 2C-P seemed better in my experience.
 
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Yeah, I just read "2c-i tends to have more elaborately patterned visuals) by accident, just missed that "and"

Well then we can bring this discussion to the 2c-p thread ;)
 
I think Dwayne was saying that 2C-P is the one that was the most elaborately patterned with visuals.
 
Just letting you know, this'll be merged with the 2C-I thread once you've had time to reply. Unless of course there are enough of these topics to justify a "First Time 2C-I" thread :)
 
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