yeah this is what i think it was too, im pretty sure my peak of the night was no more than that of 100mg, odd how most other friends reached their threshold even with 100, or maybe their second 100 dissolved much quicker than mine
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my first proper molly experience and kind of disappointed... a few questions
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yeah this is what i think it was too, im pretty sure my peak of the night was no more than that of 100mg, odd how most other friends reached their threshold even with 100, or maybe their second 100 dissolved much quicker than mine
matt2012
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I have seen it myself with many people who it was their first time and they didn't have a great experience. they took the same stuff as me and I was rolling my face off. I have seen many threads here as well with the same circumstances. it almost always comes down to 1 of 4 things...they ate a big meal before dropping, they are on some med that hinders the experience, they are not in a comfortable environment, or they are over thinking the experience.
I have posted that little gem many times over the years and people always say that taking my advice helped them a great deal....thats proof enough for me.
sorry man but....i don't want to live in a world where 100mg is a low dose. just before they stopped giving the amount of MDMA in pills on the "Microgram" bulletin the famed poke ball pills were showing 90mg of MDMA and everyone and their brother on pill reports were rating MDxx high.
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Folley
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^ Because it is a high dose.. for a pill. But it's rather common for pressers here in America to put lower dosages in their pills so people have to eat 3 or 4 in a night to get high.
In my experience, 100mg at once is not enough if you want to roll balls the way the OP is talking about. Lower dosages can be fun.. for some, but I'm one of the ones who wants to be floored melting into a pool of my own euphoria when I roll. It seems the OP is also one of those people, so I would recommend he dose higher next time.
In my experience, 100mg at once is not enough if you want to roll balls the way the OP is talking about. Lower dosages can be fun.. for some, but I'm one of the ones who wants to be floored melting into a pool of my own euphoria when I roll. It seems the OP is also one of those people, so I would recommend he dose higher next time.
also you have to consider the 100mg was probably around 70% or around actual usable mdma so 70mg was maybe all I had in me
on a side note, if i take 150mg powder would you recommend a redose of 50mg an hour later to keep me going? id prefer if i was going for at least 4 hours since it will be a long festival
Folley
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It's up to you to redose or not, you may want it, you may not.
It adds a lot to the side effects and does more damage than a normal dose depending on how often you redose. It will keep your roll going for a while longer though, so it may be worth it to you.
MDMA should last longer than 4h with even one dose though, but methylone lasts much shorter. 2-3 hour peak really. Other wise it's very similar to MDMA in effect, just not as strong and the duration is noticeably decreased. You may want to get one of the testing kits that I link to in my signature to avoid getting drugs like that.
Yuckmouf
It adds a lot to the side effects and does more damage than a normal dose depending on how often you redose. It will keep your roll going for a while longer though, so it may be worth it to you.
MDMA should last longer than 4h with even one dose though, but methylone lasts much shorter. 2-3 hour peak really. Other wise it's very similar to MDMA in effect, just not as strong and the duration is noticeably decreased. You may want to get one of the testing kits that I link to in my signature to avoid getting drugs like that.
Yuckmouf
Setting matters so much, I've had the exact same pills in a club and at home. For me, rolling at home is 1000x more awesome and intense cause you're constantly with close friends and you can 'let go' much easier, at a club there is always some awareness you need to have.
Altough, if you didn't burst into euphoria you probably did not have mdma - I have a natural high tolerance (for any drug) but 200mg should feel awesome.
Next time if you have your stuff tested - just take 150-200mg as initial dose, and redose with 100mg (if needed). 200mg might get you uncomfortable for a few minutes, but once it kicks in it's awesome.
Altough, if you didn't burst into euphoria you probably did not have mdma - I have a natural high tolerance (for any drug) but 200mg should feel awesome.
Next time if you have your stuff tested - just take 150-200mg as initial dose, and redose with 100mg (if needed). 200mg might get you uncomfortable for a few minutes, but once it kicks in it's awesome.
when you guys say 150mg, are you talking about 150 of 100% pure active usable mdma or what coz if its in powder/crystal form instead of pill then it can't max over 86%
matt2012
Bluelighter
there is no way to tell if or how baddly your MDMA is cut unless you send it to a lab for testing. so all we can do is give general advice. why would you say that 86% is the purest powder you can get? that's a pretty specific number there?
If you are not getting the effects you want...up the dose. its that simple. there is plenty of MDMA out there that is not cut in every form you are able to buy it in. if you are not happy with the product...look for another dealer.
If you are not getting the effects you want...up the dose. its that simple. there is plenty of MDMA out there that is not cut in every form you are able to buy it in. if you are not happy with the product...look for another dealer.
sorry i meant 84, but i think the mg terms are relative so it might be irrelevant
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/602797-MDMA-Crystal-100-or-84-purity
matt2012
Bluelighter
MDMA.HCI is the chemical you are looking for...even thought it is really only able to have 84% MDMA in the salt...the MDMA.HCI is still 100% MDMA.HCI
having MDMA in the salt form is more stable an a better platform for use. without the salt form you will be forced to use it from freebase. the freebase is a liquid that is more suseptable to degrdation, harder to store and transport and harder for the user to ingest. the only way I know to use the freebase is to vaporize it. but MDMA is very fragile when subjected to heat. the average person would find it hard to vaporize without ruining the MDMA.
The whole 84% thing is just chemist coversation fodder.
having MDMA in the salt form is more stable an a better platform for use. without the salt form you will be forced to use it from freebase. the freebase is a liquid that is more suseptable to degrdation, harder to store and transport and harder for the user to ingest. the only way I know to use the freebase is to vaporize it. but MDMA is very fragile when subjected to heat. the average person would find it hard to vaporize without ruining the MDMA.
The whole 84% thing is just chemist coversation fodder.
pofacedhoe
Bluelight Crew
so true. if its pure mdma your first time on 200mg will wreck you.
buffalosoldier
Bluelighter
is that medical mdma?
Folley
Bluelighter
^ MDMA.HCL (L, not I..) is the most common form of MDMA. In fact, it is probably the only form of MDMA you or I have ever seen. Any crystal MDMA is likely to be MDMA.HCL, and pills are made from crystal mixed with pill binders/dyes so really it's the only form of MDMA that's found on the street.
The rest of what he said is true however. The 84% pure thing is only brought up by those who think they understand chemistry (because their friend explained it to them..)
The rest of what he said is true however. The 84% pure thing is only brought up by those who think they understand chemistry (because their friend explained it to them..)