my first proper molly experience and kind of disappointed... a few questions

[joshy]

So I weigh like 60kg/19 years old and in the night I had a total of 200mg... 100mg then another 100mg an hour later. (i had less once before and it didn't do jack shit so i thought id have a decent dose this time)

My stomach was relatively empty and it still took 1.5hours to hit me which is fine/normal i guess


I have a few questions regarding the "high" itself.. so 1.5 hours later I start to feel the initiation, the first thing i notice is the club flashing lights seem to be a bit more trippy/faster visually, it seemed like the vibe of the club changed to a more sped up crazy typical disco type of scene you'd expect from a stimulant. a few minutes later and it was clear the first 100mg was doing its job, my legs feel very relaxed.. and I kinda wanted to sit but i didnt because i wanted to be on the dance floor, emotionally I hadn't felt much yet.. I guess you could say I was a bit more relaxed.... then probably 30mins later, so 2 hours after the initial 100mg pop I begin to feel the second cap kicking in, I now feel very relaxed body and mind... and emotionally it feels like there is an aura of peacefulness/tranquility around me which is amplified with vicks/tiger balm/air con/nice breeze. Music sounded more crisp, specially the basslines but as someone who has a very decent sound system at home I didn't really feel like the molly made the mediocre club speakers THAT good... like yeah it made it sound GOOD! and all but nothing AMAZINGGGGG (my expectations are quite high as an audiophile) that would make me head bob uncontrollably... it also seemed like I had to focus on it to notice it as my attention span was short.

what I didnt really feel:
1. gurning(didn't notice any but my jaw was definately shaking a bit as when i went to see how much my teeth would shake/hit each other.. it was quite noticeable).
2. I didn't really feel the need to smile or anything like that
3. I didn't really feel HAPPY, it more like a feel of divine peacefulness and relaxation rather than the excited/happy feel you get when opening your nintendo present when you're 8 years old
4. I could walk fine, yes my legs felt quite relaxed and all but i was completely co-ordinated
5. I didn't really feel the need to hug everyone I saw
6. Was I just not in a good enough mood to start of with or something liek that? is that even a big factor
7. is it possible i felt the 100mg kick in slowly and as I was coming off the first 100's peak only THEN did the second 100 hit me.. so in essence i only experienced a 100mg peak and mistaken the timing of the second kick?

side note:
I did it with a few friends, same batch, same pop timings, same everything they even have higher body weight and yet they are all like OMFG AMAZING, I was hearing things like "its like waves of euphoria throughout your body, like your walking through jelly, best night of my life"

my questions:

1. is this as good as it gets for some people? like I know everybody's body acts differently to drugs, so im wondering if my reaction was totally normal for someone who just had a relatively high dose of pure molly
2. do I possibly need a higher dose, because I have a high natural/genetic tolerance? (maybe a 200mg starter?)
3. how happy are you exactly when you're peaking on molly, do you get that super strong rush happy feel you use to get when you were a little kid doing something hell fun or what? can you name a similar natural feel to what you feel on molly
4. was this most probably 200mg of real molly? (based on how I described it)


what I thought:

Yeah it was definitely a good experience but it wasn't as amazing or euphoric as I thought it would be.. like I didnt even get the OMG THIS IS AMAZING, THIS SHIT IS CRAZY GOOD FEELING" type of thing.. like I find green ALOT more intense both body and mentally.. best way I can describe the molly was "a define/peaceful, relaxing substance that makes you more talkative" I think if i had a full blast aircon of vicks going down my back and getting massaged all over my body at same time, I MAY have found it quite damn euphoric but in a hot sweaty club it didn't really feel that euphoric, more relaxing/fatiguing.. hell I think even swimming in a cold pool may have provided a better experience


EDIT: wow.. this forum has a shit load of lurkers, 100 views already

 

[Heroic]

Okay there are a few options here.

1. You didn't have actual MDMA. If you didn't test it with a test kit to confirm the substance, it could have been pretty much anything.

2. If you don't like going to clubs, that could have affected your experience. It's all about 'set and setting'.

3. Your body reacts to it that way. <-Wouldn't count on this, it's very rare for someone not to have a natural tolerance to a drug I think.

All in all, a 200 mg dose should have made you a mumbling retard, a happy one too. You would be dancing around, rubbing your body in pure ecstasy. Remembering the first time I took a 200 mg dose of MDMA, I seriously thought I was going to die for 10 seconds from how intense it was.

 

[rickolasnice]

Have you ever been on SSRIs?

 

[oldskoolroller]

1) I think it is very rare for someone not to be blown on 200 mg.
2) I don`t think you need nearly 200 mg of pure uncut mdma!
3) I can not even begin to describe the rush/high of ecstasy ( the name really describes it perfectly).
4) I don`t think you had 200 mg of pure molly.

First you need a test kit to find out if you have real mdma. Look to dancesafe to purchase one. Second if it is real,it may have been stepped on to a point that you need more in order to get a baseline roll . If this is the case,look for a new connect. Also ,if you take antideppressants/anxiety meds that can be a real problem.

Ecstasy is very much worth taking the time to get a test and finding the real deal. If you are after ecstsay in this age of very adulterated drugs then please get a kit and test before you indulge another unknown chemical.Take it from someone that has played roulette many times,it is just not worth it! Back during my first decade test kits didn`t exist,but back then we didn`t have the dangerous compounds to cut molly/tabs with that they have nowadays.

Be safe and test before you ingest!

 

[Clocktower]

Ask for MDMA, not molly! Then test. Maybe try a different setting.

 

[matt2012]

everything I see here sounds like the typical MDMA experience....just one catch. your friends liked it and felt great while you were underwhelmed. yeah, you didn't test so you will never really know for sure but from what you wrote there is a good possibility of it being MDMA. So why didn't you have a great time like your buddies?

2 things come to mind...set and setting is a big big deal with MDMA. some people are just unable to let go and allow the drug to produce its full effect in certain settings. maybe you don't like clubs and felt self-consious being around the club croud. maybe you didn't like the atmousphere or the DJ/music. mind set and attitude are just as important as you being confortable in your surrondings.

Next is something I have seen happen many times and people can't believe it most of the time until they feel they are out of options and give it a shot. I have seen many many people over think the MDMA experience to the point that they miss the experience entirely. the have heard from their friends and the media that MDMA is supposed to be this grand experience where god comes out of the sky and masterbates your whole body into orgasm fo 5 hours while letting you in on the secrets of the univers.

people go into the MDMA experience expecting something an spend the whole time looking for that somthing. they search so hard for it that they forget they took the drug to have fun and feel good. next time instead of wondering when its going to hit or when will I a ruxh of euphoria come that is so good I shoot a bucjet of cum accross the room...take your MDMA and try to forget about it. run, dance, tell jokes, meet new people....do somthing other than wait for it to hit you. believe me, when you are able to combine these 2 points, letting go and not searching for the high you will fin the true MDMA experience

 

[joshy]

everything I see here sounds like the typical MDMA experience....just one catch. your friends liked it and felt great while you were underwhelmed. yeah, you didn't test so you will never really know for sure but from what you wrote there is a good possibility of it being MDMA. So why didn't you have a great time like your buddies?

2 things come to mind...set and setting is a big big deal with MDMA. some people are just unable to let go and allow the drug to produce its full effect in certain settings. maybe you don't like clubs and felt self-consious being around the club croud. maybe you didn't like the atmousphere or the DJ/music. mind set and attitude are just as important as you being confortable in your surrondings.

Next is something I have seen happen many times and people can't believe it most of the time until they feel they are out of options and give it a shot. I have seen many many people over think the MDMA experience to the point that they miss the experience entirely. the have heard from their friends and the media that MDMA is supposed to be this grand experience where god comes out of the sky and masterbates your whole body into orgasm fo 5 hours while letting you in on the secrets of the univers.

people go into the MDMA experience expecting something an spend the whole time looking for that somthing. they search so hard for it that they forget they took the drug to have fun and feel good. next time instead of wondering when its going to hit or when will I a ruxh of euphoria come that is so good I shoot a bucjet of cum accross the room...take your MDMA and try to forget about it. run, dance, tell jokes, meet new people....do somthing other than wait for it to hit you. believe me, when you are able to combine these 2 points, letting go and not searching for the high you will fin the true MDMA experience

Thanks, yeah I think this was my problem.. I was overthinking it/didn't really let go

I'll keep what you said in mind next time

Have you ever been on SSRIs?

no

Okay there are a few options here.

1. You didn't have actual MDMA. If you didn't test it with a test kit to confirm the substance, it could have been pretty much anything.

2. If you don't like going to clubs, that could have affected your experience. It's all about 'set and setting'.

3. Your body reacts to it that way. <-Wouldn't count on this, it's very rare for someone not to have a natural tolerance to a drug I think.

All in all, a 200 mg dose should have made you a mumbling retard, a happy one too. You would be dancing around, rubbing your body in pure ecstasy. Remembering the first time I took a 200 mg dose of MDMA, I seriously thought I was going to die for 10 seconds from how intense it was.

this makes me feel like I didn't take enough

did you take the 200 at once? I had it in an hour gap 100 then 100 so maybe they hit me really spaced out

im thinking after 1.5 hours first one slowly crawled up to me and i peaked from first 100mg 2.5 hours after the pop, so a 1 hour crawl to the peak.. then an hour after that only then did the second 100mg hit me maybe? then that would essentially only be a 100-150 peak wouldn't it? since it would be quite spaced

 

[Stoned Immaculate]

everything I see here sounds like the typical MDMA experience....just one catch. your friends liked it and felt great while you were underwhelmed. yeah, you didn't test so you will never really know for sure but from what you wrote there is a good possibility of it being MDMA. So why didn't you have a great time like your buddies?

2 things come to mind...set and setting is a big big deal with MDMA. some people are just unable to let go and allow the drug to produce its full effect in certain settings. maybe you don't like clubs and felt self-consious being around the club croud. maybe you didn't like the atmousphere or the DJ/music. mind set and attitude are just as important as you being confortable in your surrondings.

Next is something I have seen happen many times and people can't believe it most of the time until they feel they are out of options and give it a shot. I have seen many many people over think the MDMA experience to the point that they miss the experience entirely. the have heard from their friends and the media that MDMA is supposed to be this grand experience where god comes out of the sky and masterbates your whole body into orgasm fo 5 hours while letting you in on the secrets of the univers.

people go into the MDMA experience expecting something an spend the whole time looking for that somthing. they search so hard for it that they forget they took the drug to have fun and feel good. next time instead of wondering when its going to hit or when will I a ruxh of euphoria come that is so good I shoot a bucjet of cum accross the room...take your MDMA and try to forget about it. run, dance, tell jokes, meet new people....do somthing other than wait for it to hit you. believe me, when you are able to combine these 2 points, letting go and not searching for the high you will fin the true MDMA experience

I really liked this response. I feel I too could benefit from this. Thanks matt2012

 

[yanker]

If u didn't realize whether or not u were rolling then u weren't really rolling. When u roll for your first time it is unmistakable whether or not it has hit u. I remember the first few times I thought I was rolling cause I didn't know any better but I was being piped I would say to my lady yea this is good but I don't see what the hype is all about. When I got a taste of my first legit shit I looked at my lady and said holy mother Mary and god I finally know what the hype is about. If your not thanking the mother Mary and god then 1 of 2 things are happening 1 your gear isn't real or 2 your on some kind of anti depressants which is blocking the effects. Buy a test kit and test your stuff next time and I hope u find what your looking for.

 

[joshy]

If u didn't realize whether or not u were rolling then u weren't really rolling. When u roll for your first time it is unmistakable whether or not it has hit u. I remember the first few times I thought I was rolling cause I didn't know any better but I was being piped I would say to my lady yea this is good but I don't see what the hype is all about. When I got a taste of my first legit shit I looked at my lady and said holy mother Mary and god I finally know what the hype is about. If your not thanking the mother Mary and god then 1 of 2 things are happening 1 your gear isn't real or 2 your on some kind of anti depressants which is blocking the effects. Buy a test kit and test your stuff next time and I hope u find what your looking for.

if you read my OP, I could clearly tell I was rolling but it was more of a mellow type peaceful roll of relaxing happiness... rather than full blown "ecstasy"

 

[yanker]

Sorry it was kinda long so I didn't read the whole thing but I read the parts that u didn't feel and it sounds like u weren't rolling. Lots of drugs can give u that peace full inner self feeling but your first time rolling should be a mindblowing experience. One that you'll remember the rest of hour life and try chasing that same exact high every time thereafter not one where you would need to post on herd asking what went wrong u know what I mean? Again everything is speculation right now because the stuff u took was untested.

 

[joshy]

Sorry it was kinda long so I didn't read the whole thing but I read the parts that u didn't feel and it sounds like u weren't rolling. Lots of drugs can give u that peace full inner self feeling but your first time rolling should be a mindblowing experience. One that you'll remember the rest of hour life and try chasing that same exact high every time thereafter not one where you would need to post on herd asking what went wrong u know what I mean? Again everything is speculation right now because the stuff u took was untested.

yeah I guess, although it may have not been 200mg but im pretty sure it was molly because lots of other people I knew were rollin hard from same batch and they're more experienced than me, I had my mind on something else most of the roll.. so maybe I was kind of side tracked, not letting the mdma consume me? not sure

 

[buffalosoldier]

that MDMA is supposed to be this grand experience where god comes out of the sky and masterbates your whole body into orgasm fo 5 hours while letting you in on the secrets of the universe

Lol so fucking funny and so fucking true!

 

[yanker]

everything I see here sounds like the typical MDMA experience....just one catch. your friends liked it and felt great while you were underwhelmed. yeah, you didn't test so you will never really know for sure but from what you wrote there is a good possibility of it being MDMA. So why didn't you have a great time like your buddies?

2 things come to mind...set and setting is a big big deal with MDMA. some people are just unable to let go and allow the drug to produce its full effect in certain settings. maybe you don't like clubs and felt self-consious being around the club croud. maybe you didn't like the atmousphere or the DJ/music. mind set and attitude are just as important as you being confortable in your surrondings.

Next is something I have seen happen many times and people can't believe it most of the time until they feel they are out of options and give it a shot. I have seen many many people over think the MDMA experience to the point that they miss the experience entirely. the have heard from their friends and the media that MDMA is supposed to be this grand experience where god comes out of the sky and masterbates your whole body into orgasm fo 5 hours while letting you in on the secrets of the univers.

people go into the MDMA experience expecting something an spend the whole time looking for that somthing. they search so hard for it that they forget they took the drug to have fun and feel good. next time instead of wondering when its going to hit or when will I a ruxh of euphoria come that is so good I shoot a bucjet of cum accross the room...take your MDMA and try to forget about it. run, dance, tell jokes, meet new people....do somthing other than wait for it to hit you. believe me, when you are able to combine these 2 points, letting go and not searching for the high you will fin the true MDMA experience

I disagree w a lot of this. If your stuff is pure and its your first time rolling its nearly impossible to not have a mind blowing experience. Especially on 200 mg. No matter what you've been told to expect nothing can do it justice on how your gona feel. Even if your anxious and worried or self conscious bout being in a club once it kicks in for your first real experience everything else goes out the window and its all new and exciting. That's my take on it

I've never met a person who was dissapointed with there first roll except for if there shit was fake or they were on some type of SSRI.

 

[Exstazy]

Did not really sound like pure MDMA.. 200mg mdma has me rolling so hard, that I can feel my entire body getting a massage while everything is just perfect, amazing and interesting.. This was on crystal mdma that I got off a real hardcore E user who always gets good stuff

It's like you can see the potential with everything instead of the obsticles.

I'm sorry man, but from your description it sounds like you got shitty MD, maybe even something else entierly..
200mg is a good dose even in 2 doses, it should have gotten you rolling hard with intense otherwordly euphoria... you just know it when you feel it.. Its the ultimate high of all highs, I can honestly beleive that, having only tried mdma, weed and shrooms. But MDMA is worth it and its amazing if you dont abuse it.. What could really be better, is the thougth you will get when it hits you hard for the 1st time. At least I felt soo good I cant even describe it

 

[weirdfish]

I can't imagine finding weed to be more intense than MDMA. MDMA is a whole different level for me, they can't even compare.

 

[JWills20]

I can't imagine finding weed to be more intense than MDMA. MDMA is a whole different level for me, they can't even compare.

I find weed more intense than MDMA. This is due to the fact the main high I get from weed is anxiety-ridden and generally awful thus I have quit. I tried MDMA before weed and have found it comparably 'soft' even when i've overdone it - other than the comeup, the high is not anxious or unenjoyable just a bit too intense to actually do anything; 'floored' so to say.

Just my experiences, weed can definitely be more intense than MDMA for some people.

 

[joshy]

Did not really sound like pure MDMA.. 200mg mdma has me rolling so hard, that I can feel my entire body getting a massage while everything is just perfect, amazing and interesting.. This was on crystal mdma that I got off a real hardcore E user who always gets good stuff

It's like you can see the potential with everything instead of the obsticles.

I'm sorry man, but from your description it sounds like you got shitty MD, maybe even something else entierly..
200mg is a good dose even in 2 doses, it should have gotten you rolling hard with intense otherwordly euphoria... you just know it when you feel it.. Its the ultimate high of all highs, I can honestly beleive that, having only tried mdma, weed and shrooms. But MDMA is worth it and its amazing if you dont abuse it.. What could really be better, is the thougth you will get when it hits you hard for the 1st time. At least I felt soo good I cant even describe it

I think it may have been low purity then.. maybe 100mg? very odd though because my other mates found it as fantastic as usual

 

[Folley]

100mg at once is a pretty low dose.. I wouldn't get very strong effects from it at all. Maybe just a mood lift and some extra energy, but it would be a very light experience... and that's with tested pure MDMA. Redosing doesn't really add anything to the intensity of the roll, it just adds to the duration. I've taken a low dose (~70mg) and got almost unnoticable effects and tried to take another 100mg after... I felt nothing from the 100mg, it just made the 60mg last about an hour longer.


Next time try taking 125-150mg, I recommend 150mg. The first dose is the most important, anything after that will be less effective

 

[Exstazy]

100mg at once is a pretty low dose.. I wouldn't get very strong effects from it at all. Maybe just a mood lift and some extra energy, but it would be a very light experience... and that's with tested pure MDMA. Redosing doesn't really add anything to the intensity of the roll, it just adds to the duration. I've taken a low dose (~70mg) and got almost unnoticable effects and tried to take another 100mg after... I felt nothing from the 100mg, it just made the 60mg last about an hour longer.


Next time try taking 125-150mg, I recommend 150mg. The first dose is the most important, anything after that will be less effective

This is good advice, the first dose is most important no doubt. One should really only do one dose

wait 90 days and try 150mg, and be SURE it's as pure as you can