Stimulants My first Methamphetamine experience. Thoughts?

[Immunator]

Okay so first a little background info. I am 6' 190 lbs. I eat extremely healthy(paleo if you are bored and need something to look up) and exercise at the gym roughly 5 days a week, depending on my schedule. Almost all my food is organic, grass fed, yada yada ( but is it really? Marketing....). I don't eat or drink anything with fake sure in eat. Hypocrite for taking something synthetic?

So recently I took 80mg of Crystal, (as if that really determines quality but my guy said it was the best hes seen) orally because I don't smoke anything nor do I feel like messing up my nose. I've also read that orally has a smoother overall experience and easier come down. Needless to say, I had a quite enjoyable experience.

I had a big breakfast, almonds and an apple for a snack, and burgers with some kale for lunch around 1:30 p.m. Around 3:15 (Took it as early as I could because I didn't know how long I'd be up) I crushed it up and parachute it down. Around 4:30 I was feeling pretty damn close to the first time I did MDMA. Very euphoric, very smooth. I was very aware of what was going on. I was curious as to how I would react as most people have bad "side effects" like paranoia. I did not have any of that. Not really increased energy ( I do have ADHD if that matters?), I felt like I should clean the house but didn't really feel like it. So for the first 6 hours I sat in my computer chair drinking plenty of water googling everything about Meth and talking to everyone on facebook that was on, only getting up to pee clear or fill up on water. After that I played some games, listened to some music, just focusing on the good feeling going through my body. At around midnight I decided it was probably time to eat so I could hopefully go to bed (I felt like I could have ate through the entire thing just decided not too because I did not want to ruin the effects). So I had an apple, banana, carrot, bell pepper, cucumber. Not much calories but I expected it to somewhat kill the high. Not so much. So I played some more games, listened to some more music, took a hot shower that felt amazing and brushed my teeth (mmmm). Around 2:30 a.m. I decided to crawl in bed and see what would happen. I laid there for about an hour still feeling on cloud 9 when my stomach started growling at me. So I went and made about 6 eggs and some Frank's red hot sauce on it. I felt more relaxed and that helped calm my beating heart, ranging anywhere from normal to around 120bpm. Maybe 150 tops if I thought about it? Around 3:30 I finally fell asleep, while still feeling a little something, for about an hour or so. When I woke up I couldn't go back to sleep so I decided to get up and make breakfast around 7:30.

Now for how I felt after I woke up. Slight headache but way better than my least intense alcohol headache. I am hopefully contributing this to me not drinking as much water after I laid down. Thoughts? Slight chest pain and the racing heart didn't start (at least I didn't notice it) until I started coming down. Hopefully contributing this to my muscles being so tense and my heart just beating the crap out of it. Thoughts? Thats roughly about it. No depression, no urge to do more, food tasted good, and for one hour, I don't feel too shabby. I did have jaw clenching for roughly three hours during the middle of it which I was finally able to control.

It is now 9:50 a.m. Getting a few head tingles here and there ( happens with mdma too). Headache is almost completely gone. Will be drinking water the rest of the day. Chest is a little less sore but still bugging me. Heart isn't too bad except for when I think about it. I was hoping to go to the gym this morning but I don't think that would be a good idea with my heart still pounding out of the norm? Anything I can do for my chest or to calm my heart minus food and water and breathing techniques?

Overall I enjoyed my night and was pleased with the lack of come down as I have heard a lot of them can be very nasty. I will be doing this at most once a week if that (heard that before huh). I actually get a rush from thinking about actually waiting. Adds some effect to it. So what can I do better next time, jaw clenching, heart rate, taking it earlier, since I can eat on it, so I can possibly go to sleep? Will stretching frequently help with the chest pain and any other sore muscles? It was fairly cold in my room and I've read that reduces neurotoxicity. Would a tolerance or loss off feeling occur if I did it at most once a week? ("Everyone caves!!!!") I know everyone is different but theoretically.

 

[tweex]

80mg is too big a dose IMO.

I'd try to keep it in the 30mg range. And be sure to load up on antioxidants, and not drink too much water. You know it is possible to OD on water.

 

[DJRolling]

. I will be doing this at most once a week if that (heard that before huh). .

yeah man I posted a trip report of me and my best friend's first meth experience (however oral was never even a thought, we smoked and snorted together), you can find it here and see what I said me and her told ourselves that night and the next day as far as frequency of use. i'd rather not say how often we, albeit her much more than I, use meth. let's just say it's significantly more than "maybe a couple times a month". be careful man, i'm sure orally it's not as impulsive so that might make it easier to be an occasional user. good luck!

 

[sekio]

If you do meth every weekend you will burn out so quickly it will make your head hurt. Keep it to like, once every three months.

The long and short: make sure you eat properly (you won't feel like you have to), excercise, use the minimum amount possible and don't redose (meth has a loooong half-life, and redosing can lead to you being spun out for 48 hours!).

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

If you really want to experiment with stimulants don't use meth, just instead use either Adderall or Dexedrine, or Desoxyn if you have access to it since at least then you'll be getting actual amphetamine or pharm grade meth in the case of Desoxyn, and not meth that can be stepped on, or made with all sort of toxins.

 

[tricomb]

Methamphetamine will take your soul, mind, and body. You're just waiting in line, to lose everything. There isn't a damned thing about your existence that methamphetamine won't take from you.

This is a harm reduction focus forum, not a place to discuss trip reports, there's an entire subforum for trip reports, and I don't really consider methamphetamine to be much of a "trip" rather just a one way ticket to Hell. The number of people I know who can hold a habit and haven't sold their souls in every way, I can count on one hand. The number who have died (either via overdose, the lab blowing up, psychosis + firearms ending up in homicide/suicide), had their children taken away by Child Protective Services, gone to prison, worse, those who are now in the local state asylum and never "came back", I could fill a phone book with people I cared about who were taken away from me and their loved ones by this particular drug, and you'd have to stop me or physically remove the pen from my deathgrip to get the point.

Crystal Methamphetamine is something that should be and almost never remains, a "first methampheteamine experience". Just search the forums and observe the pain, misery, and suffering. Check out the Bluelight Shrine, and pay your respects to those of us who were not as lucky and never woke up.

Thoughts? You're already in over your head, run. run as fast as you can in the other direction.

 

[Immunator]

I am well aware of what I am getting myself into. I know plenty of people that can do meth on occasion and not be addicted to it. I didn't post this so people could see what I experienced, I wanted to see what I can do differently next time to reduce harm. Such as the antioxidants, lower dosage.

 

[F1n1shed]

If it was fairly pure meth you should not have done 80mg your first time orally. That sounds like it would cause a lot of anxiety, but luckily for you it didn't.
30-40mg should be fine next time, and yea make sure you wait another month at least. I just did meth yesterday, hadn't done it in over a year before that. I was smoking it , so god damn it was more fiendish.

But i hope to not do it again for many months to come at least, or maybe never.
When i first got into it by a fellow blue lighter, i instantly started doing it daily. Even when i was home alone, that didn't last long tho. One day i looked in the mirror and told my self.... wait a second ... you are doing METH. Flushed the rest down, IMO meth and MDMA BOTH should be a one and only one time experience. They both feel too good, and cause more damage to the brain than any other drug.

 

[The God]

Maybe OffTopic:

Just a quick question, why would you even risk getting addicted to meth? I mean, you know what it's like... why go further?

Just as tricomb said, it's very dangerous and from all the drugs out there, this is one of the 'few' you should stay away from.

But hey, that's just my opinion, you can do whatever you like.

 

[Morphling]

I just read this long-ass post talking bout how you take such good care of yourself, then..."I'll keep my METH use to once a week! Np. Np. Np."

What?

Meth does not fit into the sort of lifestyle you are describing. The paleolithic people were not cooking shake'n'bake. LOL!

Your new favorite workout is going to be the floorcrawl searching for shards....

 

[Immunator]

Haha some of these are pretty funny. I have severe ADHD so it affects me differently that most people. I am definitely going to reduce dosage for next time. Also, I said at most once a week. I have other things to pass the time too. If I can take oxy and not be addicted, I think I'll be good with this. Already been over a week and I don't feel like a fiend to do more. I bought some magnesium and selenium for next time. Also my house is freezing which also helps reduce neurotoxicity.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Haha some of these are pretty funny. I have severe ADHD so it affects me differently that most people. I am definitely going to reduce dosage for next time. Also, I said at most once a week. I have other things to pass the time too. If I can take oxy and not be addicted, I think I'll be good with this. Already been over a week and I don't feel like a fiend to do more. I bought some magnesium and selenium for next time. Also my house is freezing which also helps reduce neurotoxicity.

You're going to do whatever you want, no matter what people post here. Crystal meth is highly neurotoxic and just because your house is cold that's not going to protect you from its neurotoxicity. Get out now if you still can.

 

[blight12]

Nice, sounds pretty standard in terms of results. The fact that you experienced hunger indicates you where not very high however. I would say 20% out of a possible 100%, which sounds exactly right for your dosage. You also stopped after that amount which is great. Take the above advice and move on, enjoy the memory of the experience and leave it at that.

I did enjoy this however:

So I had an apple, banana, carrot, bell pepper, cucumber.

This is the most random list of items to eat i have ever seen, just what I would expect from meth. It sounds like you just grabbed random things, whatever you could see in front of you and ate them. Just how i remember it working for me as well lol.

 

[Immunator]

I know its highly neurotoxic I'm just saying my house being cold does help. They have done studies on it. As for the random list of food lol, I eat the same thing everyday and saved all the little munchies that were packed with vitamins to snack on. I'm perfectly fine with being only 20% high as it was quite enjoyable. I will not seek out higher as I have no need to. I'm still going to do it on occasion, was just wanted some input as to what I can do better next time. Such as the lower dose, antioxidants, and too much water. All of these I will be consciously aware of next time. Thanks guys.

 

[Dresden]

Stimulants are my drug of choice, so for me meth is much more addictive than oxycodone, which is not my thing. Be careful.

 

[ErgicMergic]

Run like hell from this drug and don't look back, imo, while you still have a chance to avoid permanent meth/amps addiction and subsequent mental illnesses, such as the common tweaker-induced semi-permanent Panaroid Schizophrenia.

It's simply too rewarding of a drug to use responsibly (imo), and needs to be avoided at all costs. I've seen and heard terrible things in jail and through family/friends who knew meth addicts. It's a fucking EPIDEMIC here in California, we just don't like to admit that since it's so pervasive and prevalent, like a Mack truck (meth) plowing through lives and mental health of whoever is stupid/desperate enough to stand in the middle of the tweaker "highway." If you want the Mack Truck (meth) to plow through you, destroying every little fragment of your soul, it's your life, do as you please, but I cannot recommend something as stupid and harmful as Meth usage.

This is from an open-minded recreational drug user who was grateful enough to have Bluelight, Erowid, and a very good ex-junkie friend, who all helped me never try drugs like crystal meth, heroin, cocaine, and even oxycodone, even though I am fully accepting of the troubled souls who have fallen into this terrible affliction, as the Golden Rule reigns supreme.

In my opinion, you should let sleeping dogs lie...

 

[Immunator]

I am very careful in everything I do. I have tried oxy and its not really my thing. First time I did it I did 10mg, felt nothing. Tried 20mg a week later, felt nothing. Tried 30mg of just pure oxy with some alcohol, felt a little (obviously not good for you so won't be doing that again). I have a high natural tolerance to oxy and that is way too expensive. I'm still acing all my tests in Calculus and Physics so I'd say I'm doing quite alright while doing it at most once a week.

 

[Not Again]

I was a meth head for 10 years and I had nothing and anything I got I lost.

Fast forward 10 years most of the 10 years was clean except for alcohol.

Now I have a source for adderall and have been taking it every couple of days for a while. People say it's just like meth, but it's way way different. It doesn't screw you like meth. Mentioned above meth takes your soul. Right. Adderall doesn't do that. Prolly because it's a legit medication. not sure.

Anyways stop meth.

 

[Immunator]

I have ADHD and was on Adderall before high school. Does it provide the same euphoria as meth? I'm sure I could get prescribed it again if I requested. I don't get the increased energy, addiction, or focus from meth, just the euphoria, which is all I'm looking for.

 

[tweex]

I have ADHD and was on Adderall before high school. Does it provide the same euphoria as meth? I'm sure I could get prescribed it again if I requested. I don't get the increased energy, addiction, or focus from meth, just the euphoria, which is all I'm looking for.

Roughly half the stimulant potency, and reduced duration. It's sort of "meth's little brother"