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My current concept of god.

What 23 said:
I would perhaps take the advice of ceasing the use of weekly psychs.
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-=SS=- said:
My advice is simple. Stop using psychedelics. It's obviously fucking with your head.
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Im not sure if I was clear enough, but I think I mentioned I have stopped the weekly psychedelics, I mentioned this in another thread I wrote on psychedelic harm reduction about my addictive behavior. I am also planning on taking a long break from them (going on a nice, very pleasant vacation and will almost certainly be drug free during this, unless very specific circumstances arise. and if not drug free than hallucinogen free.)

I'm not sure I am ready to quit psychedelics all together, never weekly like I had been doing, but they are a whole other world to explore, see, hear, and feel, and that is something I'd like to experience every now and again.
 
DL-ark said:
Im not sure if I was clear enough, but I think I mentioned I have stopped the weekly psychedelics, I mentioned this in another thread I wrote on psychedelic harm reduction about my addictive behavior. I am also planning on taking a long break from them (going on a nice, very pleasant vacation and will almost certainly be drug free during this, unless very specific circumstances arise. and if not drug free than hallucinogen free.)

I'm not sure I am ready to quit psychedelics all together, never weekly like I had been doing, but they are a whole other world to explore, see, hear, and feel, and that is something I'd like to experience every now and again.
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That's good to hear. I'd definitely recommend going clean.. there's a whole world to explore and experience sober too, and it's just as entertaining as the psychedelic world. And at the end of the day you'll get more out of a sober world than a hazy psychedelic one. It's possible to have profound experiences through meditation and applied mental effort too. Psychedelics should help give you a shock and perspective shift, but relying on them will only cause you trouble. But, it's your life of course :) I wish you well on your break from them though.
 
-=SS=- said:
That's good to hear. I'd definitely recommend going clean.. there's a whole world to explore and experience sober too, and it's just as entertaining as the psychedelic world. And at the end of the day you'll get more out of a sober world than a hazy psychedelic one. It's possible to have profound experiences through meditation and applied mental effort too. Psychedelics should help give you a shock and perspective shift, but relying on them will only cause you trouble. But, it's your life of course :) I wish you well on your break from them though.
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No, of course I'll be very much enamored with the world we have, as I said I will be taking a vacation to some very beautiful places to experience this world. I don't prefer the psychedelic world to ours, I simply choose to have both, just with the psychedelics only being used only when I find I have a perfect opportunity and the perfect drug. I don't rely on psychedelics, I just like to have them as an option.
 
I have experienced that when i get cocky about things i often make a mistake - eg in pool or playing music; whereas when i'm not 'thinking' (about success or otherwise), i tend to do better. This is just intuition working: to do any activity well (eg driving) you first have to focus your intellect on it, and there's too much to think about with a linear stream of consciousness, so we do badly. When you learn and understand how to do it, you do it unconsciously/intuitively (the zombie it's called in western philosophy (hi ricko ;)) and do it much better.

I also think there is an influence from what freud called the superego (or conscience) - this part of your brain/mind is what keeps you 'honest' and gives you access to your own inuitive wisdom, which, like in sport and driving, is just much better at it than your puny linear stream of thoughts that most of us think of as 'me'. This i think is the part that makes us 'unconsciously' fluff up the big pool shot just after we did a swagger around the table. You could call the superego 'god' but it's a god that arises from our own brain/mind and experience and is personal to each of us.

As to whether your personal internal thoughts can affect other people's actual success unconnected to you, to me that gets dangerously close to solipsism or delusions of grandeur (common effects of over use of psychs from personal experience)
 
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Vurtual said:
I have experienced that when i get cocky about things i often make a mistake - eg in pool or playing music; whereas when i'm not 'thinking' (about success or otherwise), i tend to do better. This is just intuition working: to do any activity well (eg driving) you first have to focus your intellect on it, and there's too much to think about with a linear stream of consciousness, so we do badly. When you learn and understand how to do it, you do it unconsciously/intuitively (the zombie it's called in western philosophy (hi ricko ;)) and do it much better.

I also think there is an influence from what freud called the superego (or conscience) - this part of your brain/mind is what keeps you 'honest' and gives you access to your own inuitive wisdom, which, like in sport and driving, is just much better at it than your puny linear stream of thoughts that most of us think of as 'me'. This i think is the part that makes us 'unconsciously' fluff up the big pool shot just after we did a swagger around the table. You could call the superego 'god' but it's a god that arises from our own brain/mind and experience and is personal to each of us.

As to whether your personal internal thoughts can affect other people's actual success unconnected to you, to me that gets dangerously close to solipsism or delusions of grandeur (common effects of over use of psychs from personal experience)
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No, I was not hypothesizing that my thoughts alone can change how others play, I was hypothesizing (although towards the end of my initial discussion at least ) that the attitudes of everyone watching a team being open to defeat having the favor through some sort of deity.

I of course do not think that my thoughts alone influence such a widely watching game.
 
The only experiences I've had which I would relate to as being in touch with some kind of God-like omnipresence are experiences where my ego is either dissolved or it has stepped aside so that some other force beyond me can move through. Seems that the main obstacle to imbibing the Godliness that we already are, is ego. In the moments where it's absent or abiding in emptiness, there is an expansive void, filled with the unknown and uncertainty, and a certain groundlessness that feels absolutely freeing. It is the opposite of security in the traditional sense as there is nothing left to grasp onto. It feels like a free-fall, but one where everything is in a constant state of falling so it ceases to matter. The space beyond the cliff dive is never ending. You fall forever and it's fine. Likewise, it is a fire that burns away everything within you that honestly doesn't matter... it is a flaming pinnacle, a jealous lover that will have no other; it is a knowing, an awareness, that provides the fuel to a never ending fire. There have only been a few fleeting periods where I've experienced this without any fear, and felt completely loved and held by the abyss. Most other times were filled with trepidation and fear consciousness due to the presence of the nagging personality level baggage that is part of my life's work to be surrendered.

In short... God is the endless ocean that underlies all the temporary drops and their fleeting activities. It is the glue that connects all things interdependently. It is the source of all that arises and dissolves. It is the truth beyond every mirage. It makes no distinction between who has been good or bad... it is the absolute wisdom that will force you to get on your knees to discover. No one's forehead is clean. If the guru tells you to bow down, he should get on his knees with you. There is no mercy... it will tear you apart and show you what's really in there. It is the Almighty.
 
I kinda like the idea of a programmer..

A lot of equations found in physics points to a possibility.. It's as if the laws of nature are just that.. a mathematical equation or algorithm.

Heisenberg's uncertainty principal makes me wonder. ;)
 
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