MXE - RIP

[Bleaney]

yea, i think i've had OBE's before, just not on MXE - tbh K gave me more OBE's if i think about it, i once was inside Samurai Champloo and was walking with them in it. It has also gave me closure by 'speaking to my grandfather' long after he passed during one experience but that wasn't OBE, that was more in my head. Whilst the Samurai Champloo one i was literally there in Edo period (iirc) Japan everywhere i looked.
I've had many similar experiences where i have been 'teleported', mostly into different series of stuff, but i stopped kinda 'recognizing/detailing' that something that happened was: "oh, that was an OBE/CEV" a while ago, sadly. Now i just see what happens and enjoy it if it happens. I can't really k-hole anymore (without going mad trying) so my OBE's and CEV's and whatnot, i can barely remember a lot of the details nowadays of those experiences, compared to my posts from when i first was on here and writing essay's about my experiences when i first started getting into chemicals besides ethanol.
4-aco-dmt + k-hole = floating in a kind've 'alex grey's 'godself' kind of rooms of faces - honestly, never felt so tranquil and zen, i was floating with acid techno as my soundtrack. When i opened my eyes, i was under my friends turntables, crossed legs, head down, just wondering 'wtf was THAT' and then realised my mates (rip @SpecialK_) were all doing the same and i was the first to speak n break everyone out of 'their daze', then we all just went Wow and giggled our asses off at how incredible this compound is, but also i came out of it thinking how incredible the world is! And if that is a 'zen state', everyone should experience it, and was even less worried about death and what happens after, thinking 'if that is similar to where we go after all this? then i don't mind at all!

With OBEs your mind generally remains in close proximity to your physical body (at least with all those who've had those experiences and been able to talk about them afterwards - ie - they've not died.)

Generally in the same room, your mind can just float around the ceiling of the room your body is in. Although the guy I knew in uni had his mind travel his entire house and enter the living room, where his parents where, and just linger a while for a while before returning to his body, in his upstairs bedroom.

IIRC the more experienced people get with these, the more they can control where their mind goes.

It's a genuinely freaky and paranormal phenomenon. One of my Psychology lecturers at Uni, Susan Blackmore, was into all this stuff, and is maybe one of the leading authorities on "para-psychology" in the UK, although it is a very fringe niche, and not regarded with much academic prestige or respect it seemed to me. Quite the opposite, if truth be told. That was my impression at least.

I think she started off wanting to try to prove the existence of paranormal phenomena, soon realised that it was virtually impossible, and so 'switched sides', so that she could pick holes in the lack of evidence of other people trying to prove the existence of these phenomena. (Very comparable to trying to prove the existence of God it seems to me.)

IIRC.

She definitely switched sides, although I think she may have explained it away in different terms, that I can lo longer recall.

 

[XmrXdisasterX]

Boy, do I have some news for you guys!!! There’s a new mxe analogue on a few of the big RC sites!!! Haven’t tried it yet but I am grabbing some today. I guess it’s great!!! (Mxpcp)

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Some of those reports look promising. I'd have to sample it in order to dive in though, and I'd be too wary of an outright scam if not just shitty product.

 

[XmrXdisasterX]

I ended up ordering a g, I’ll update after trying and post a trip report here and make a separate post too. If it’s anything like mxe then it was worth the money.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

I remember doing MXE in my parents house once and thinking that I was in a space ship

So many of those old drugs from the pre PSA era just aren't available now. aMT, any 2C that isn't B, powdered DXM

It's a shame

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Only got one dance with it but the whole (Direct family) took it and watched that mideval move with James Franco and (South bound and down guy -

We all realized it was clearly made of people 'tripping' and all laughed out asses off thoroughly -- MXE just connected with the movie ppl and environment so much

RIP -- I didn't know you long enough!

I saw DXM being sold with no active a ingredient the other day but it was like 8-10 bucks and so is blotter if I really wanted to do that

 

[Auranova]

Wow - I came across this thread and realized that I have a gram of MXE in my kit that’s been sitting there for almost 8 years and I’d forgotten about it. I bought it when I was in an experimental phase trying a bunch of different compounds. I tried my MXE once but wasn’t overly impressed by it and got lured away by other compounds. I took a relatively low dose though, I think, around 20mg. It was pleasant but didn’t knock my socks off. At the time, I also read that MXE was really hard on the kidneys and there was a post somewhere about someone who abused it heavily and ended up with kidney damage. There was also some debate about whether ketamine or MXE was better and there were a lot of people who preferred ketamine - never tried that one myself.

So now my interest is piqued again and I’m thinking of giving MXE another try. I’d appreciate any advice on the sweet spot for dosage, given that I have no tolerance or much experience with it. I enjoyed 2-CB and 5-Meo-Mipt a fair bit back then but never high doses. I think my sweet spot for 2-CB was in the 12-15mg range and for 5-Meo-Mipt in the 4-5mg range, if that provides a sense of my comfort zone. I assume it hasn’t degraded much after 8 years since I’ve kept it in a dark, cool, airtight container. As for quality of the product - I have no idea. Thanks for any info offered.

 

[KetWise]

I only had a MXE bump once in a festival some time ago. I knew very well the guy that offered it, he was in a very atypical high type, he knew very well ket but I could tell he was flying, smile on his face. It hit me straight in the face, a nice smooth dissociation. Problem is I was far from sober when I took it, I took stims, burpenorphine, benzo and other stuff i cant remmeber probably coke and ket. My man couldnt get me where he got it as he ended up in a M-hole. The powder was blueish to mark it so people knew it wasn't regular ket. I remember the name "whale anesthetic" going around, old addicts describing it as ultra strong only a small bump needed.

At the same festival after MXE I ended trying smoked A-PVP for the first time.. it was eventful

The only thing that reminds this warm/smooth/euphoric dissociation is MXPr but still not the same for sure.

 

[Shambles]

Wow - I came across this thread and realized that I have a gram of MXE in my kit that’s been sitting there for almost 8 years and I’d forgotten about it. I bought it when I was in an experimental phase trying a bunch of different compounds. I tried my MXE once but wasn’t overly impressed by it and got lured away by other compounds. I took a relatively low dose though, I think, around 20mg. It was pleasant but didn’t knock my socks off. At the time, I also read that MXE was really hard on the kidneys and there was a post somewhere about someone who abused it heavily and ended up with kidney damage. There was also some debate about whether ketamine or MXE was better and there were a lot of people who preferred ketamine - never tried that one myself.

So now my interest is piqued again and I’m thinking of giving MXE another try. I’d appreciate any advice on the sweet spot for dosage, given that I have no tolerance or much experience with it. I enjoyed 2-CB and 5-Meo-Mipt a fair bit back then but never high doses. I think my sweet spot for 2-CB was in the 12-15mg range and for 5-Meo-Mipt in the 4-5mg range, if that provides a sense of my comfort zone. I assume it hasn’t degraded much after 8 years since I’ve kept it in a dark, cool, airtight container. As for quality of the product - I have no idea. Thanks for any info offered.

https://www.bluelight.org/community...part-17-south-kansas-is-going-bye-bye.768572/

Most recent version of the PD MXE Megathread. Dig around a lil and you’ll find the answers to any questions you may have.

And feel free to ask in here if you need further advice. Take care and have fun!!!

(only mildly envious of your rediscovered mxe stash - honest )

 

[Auranova]

Thank you Shambles!

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Wow - I came across this thread and realized that I have a gram of MXE in my kit that’s been sitting there for almost 8 years and I’d forgotten about it. I bought it when I was in an experimental phase trying a bunch of different compounds. I tried my MXE once but wasn’t overly impressed by it and got lured away by other compounds. I took a relatively low dose though, I think, around 20mg. It was pleasant but didn’t knock my socks off. At the time, I also read that MXE was really hard on the kidneys and there was a post somewhere about someone who abused it heavily and ended up with kidney damage. There was also some debate about whether ketamine or MXE was better and there were a lot of people who preferred ketamine - never tried that one myself.

So now my interest is piqued again and I’m thinking of giving MXE another try. I’d appreciate any advice on the sweet spot for dosage, given that I have no tolerance or much experience with it. I enjoyed 2-CB and 5-Meo-Mipt a fair bit back then but never high doses. I think my sweet spot for 2-CB was in the 12-15mg range and for 5-Meo-Mipt in the 4-5mg range, if that provides a sense of my comfort zone. I assume it hasn’t degraded much after 8 years since I’ve kept it in a dark, cool, airtight container. As for quality of the product - I have no idea. Thanks for any info offered.

It'll be fine, I managed to get hold of 300mg of pre-ban MXE ages ago & even then it was several years old & had been kept in all kinds of weird places.
I did a proper Henry The Hoover on that stuff the moment I was given it.

I loved MXE, I think it's better than Ketamine but the best disso is 4-MeO-PCP imo.

 

[Albion]

MXE was indeed great and I have very fond nostalgic memories of purchasing a gram the week it was first 'released', I think autumn 2010. There weren't many trip reports or first hand experiences then so I felt like a pioneer who found gold when it turned out to be lush. A cozy drug to discover just as the seasons changed. It didn't take long to realize that the experience was completely psychedelic at higher doses and I went from being pleasantly wobbly in the evenings to plugging 100+mg every night and choosing ego death over good sleep for the best part of a year. That aspect of it, I don't miss. Not the trips themselves, but it got increasingly dark, and the cumulative effect of daily heavy use is rough. 24h grogginess, absent short term memory...Also it mixed weirdly with other drugs, and as someone who wanted to always be high on anything, that led to some regretful combinations where I thought I was gonna die (6-APB, MDAI) and even one opioid overdose (O-DT). I also got rushed to hospital twice on MXE due to screaming episodes, which scared a lot of people around me. Whenever I dabbled since then I always wondered why I kept on bringing myself back to that MXE state of mind. The body always remembered these traumas.

 

[SillySlinky]

yeah, we were spoiled with mxe for real. it kinda ruined dissociatives for me, I've tried to recapture the magic with ketamine or other substances for years, to not much avail, k is just an inferior drug imo.

it would sell like hot cakes if someone actually made a lot of it, instead we get some asshole coming around every couple months selling it for 500 bucks a gram or something stupid.

i imagine it has something to do with the legal scheduling, ketamine still being semi-legal and very prevalent everywhere, while mxe sits in schedule 1, or whatever equivalent fully restricted status. so the drug market deems, "ketamine is good enough for this dumb lot" and this is precisely why we can't have nice things.

500 on the DN?! No way. Must be fiction. I see talk about people stthesizing it again in some of the DN forums. Too bad it's not easily found on the clearnet anymore.

 

[SillySlinky]

It'll be fine, I managed to get hold of 300mg of pre-ban MXE ages ago & even then it was several years old & had been kept in all kinds of weird places.
I did a proper Henry The Hoover on that stuff the moment I was given it.

I loved MXE, I think it's better than Ketamine but the best disso is 4-MeO-PCP imo.

Why do you say the about 4 meo? I'm interested in exploring further than K, but I dunno much about the meo and O-PCE and such.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Why do you say the about 4 meo?

You can go DEEP when you "hole" on it.
Yeah MXE & Ketamine I've been through tubes of light, like surfing energy waves of colour, lost my body/self in an empty void of black space.....all the usual Trippy Ketamine stuff everyone has been through.

On 4-MeO-PCP I came to meet what I call The Robot Geisha of Hyperspace, it was the most extreme & bizarre experience I have had on anything, yeah smoking huge doses of Salvia is insane but it is always bizarre & it's hard to make anything of value from it, being swallowed by the Earth, meeting the shoe-man who lives with his wife & kids in a Cosmic shoe & makes you do tasks for him as his too lazy to do the work is weird but it's just bizarre insanity.

Having a conversation with two Japanese Geisha that turn their heads like a doll or robot, they tell you they are getting pissed off with people from my Dimension keep on turning up in their place when we haven't been asked to go & we are rude, if I dare to ever go to their dimension again I will be kept there & this will mean to people like my family etc I will look like I am dead but in "truth" I will be with these beings working for them isn't a joke.

99.9999% of the time when I would come down off 4-MeO-PCP I would have a come down type feeling like you do with anything such as MDMA, MDA, Ketamine, Speed etc, when I came out of that trip it was as sudden as clicking your fingers, I was in a second sober & clear headed 100% & the warning of going back to where these beings lived stayed with me for weeks, I have only seen them once again in a dream where they turned up & smiled, said "Hello" & told me it was good I hadn't gone back to visit them.

They also were playing the Japanese Shamisen in the trip, it was an experience 100% like this.


That is why I rate 4-MeO-PCP so highly, make of it what you will.

 

[deficiT]

500 on the DN?! No way. Must be fiction. I see talk about people stthesizing it again in some of the DN forums. Too bad it's not easily found on the clearnet anymore.

That may have been a bit of an exaggeration. I don't really browse those anymore so idk but I definitely did see something crazy like that at some point.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

A movie that went well with a close analogue dMXE/ deoxyMethoxetamine.
Less stimulating and toned down version. Captured the dissociative expreinece.

Or goes extremely well with it, watched it 2 times while on it. Mid-Century.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6821198/ have yet to watch it soberder !

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

MXE was indeed great and I have very fond nostalgic memories of purchasing a gram the week it was first 'released', I think autumn 2010. There weren't many trip reports or first hand experiences then so I felt like a pioneer who found gold when it turned out to be lush. A cozy drug to discover just as the seasons changed. It didn't take long to realize that the experience was completely psychedelic at higher doses and I went from being pleasantly wobbly in the evenings to plugging 100+mg every night and choosing ego death over good sleep for the best part of a year. That aspect of it, I don't miss. Not the trips themselves, but it got increasingly dark, and the cumulative effect of daily heavy use is rough. 24h grogginess, absent short term memory...Also it mixed weirdly with other drugs, and as someone who wanted to always be high on anything, that led to some regretful combinations where I thought I was gonna die (6-APB, MDAI) and even one opioid overdose (O-DT). I also got rushed to hospital twice on MXE due to screaming episodes, which scared a lot of people around me. Whenever I dabbled since then I always wondered why I kept on bringing myself back to that MXE state of mind. The body always remembered these traumas.

The problem with MXE was that people grossly underestimated it's power.

It was one hell of a drug, that could provide a whole range of experiences that were simply dose dependant.

Unfortunately, because it was sold to fuckwits that had no concept of moderation, two idiots drowned in a pond resulting in MXE being scheduled.

MXE is one of those drugs where you really need to stay at home...

 

[Bleaney]

Although it wasn't really the kind of substance that I most enjoy, I'm glad I experienced it a few times.

Some mighty strange experiences occurred, and I accidentally destroyed my computer, by attempting to plug pin jack headphones into a USB socket (as you do )

I know dissociatives are technically a totally different class of drugs to psychedelics, but it still falls under the broader category of 'weird trippy shit' imo.

In some ways I preferred it to shrooms and acid, there was barely any anxiety at all with MXE for me, which was the main positive, to be able to experience extremely weird subconscious stuff almost entirely without anxiety, whereas with the benefit of hindsight and far greater self awareness and understanding, I realise that anxiety was often something that messed up shrooms or acid for me.

But MXE didnt have anything like the awesome swirly mind expanding / soundscape expansion effects that shrooms did for me while listening to music. Not just things like The Wall, but Alice Cooper's Album with School's Out turned out to be very surprisingly psychedelic as fuck. There's other examples too, The Eagles Hotel California etc has loads of swirliness. A guy I was tripping with one time, was really into 70s trippy rock music.

There wasn't any of the perceptual changes either that could sometimes last for months for me following a mushroom trip. (Or nothing like to the same extent and intensity.) Which was great if it it was a good trip, but obviously a bit of a nightmare if it was a bad trip.

If only someone could invent a drug that had the positives of both, and the negatives of neither........

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

The problem with MXE was that people grossly underestimated it's power.

It was one hell of a drug, that could provide a whole range of experiences that were simply dose dependant.

Unfortunately, because it was sold to fuckwits that had no concept of moderation, two idiots drowned in a pond resulting in MXE being scheduled.

MXE is one of those drugs where you really need to stay at home...

See, I used to love a small dose at a pub or bar. Gave the world a bit of sparkle. Also loved to take it and ride the bus, watching the city.

But this was after dosing many, many times. It'd be easy to fuck it up, but I never did, although lots of strange behaviour ensued.