MXE - RIP

[matt<3ketamine]

I don't know about you's but i haven't seen MXE in YEARS N YEARS, yet i've seen other compounds making a return - like 4-MMC and 2C-B has become massive again. but the 2c's were unknown rarities 10 years ago to most people, only us lot and collectors would still have some -B left and only came around in drips and drabs from one person who let a half gram go to a friend. But both have made massive comebacks, why NOT MXE?
i wonder when or if i'll be here when MXE will ever be produced again but the first person to figure it out how to do a final big batch or new method, will be minted as EVERYONE will be after it, from those of us that loved it to those that heard about it's incredible experiences from sensible users - it may put off ket heads that didn't try it with a sensible dose though) It seems many are less interested in it besides us in RC circles that got to experience it's magic with PROPER dosing.
I've never had a better - antidepressant, pain killer, energy booster and my best dissociative trips.
Me and my friend would get a gram and do 'tramadol and MXE fridays' which we set up a TV, two sofa's facing it, got blankets and got on our own sofa, have a half gram split between us we would dab, bump and oral it and STILL be left with about 250-350mg left.

Damn i miss it and need to try it again before i go - i honestly think it'd help my depression out greatly, so much better than ket can, as i have such a tolerance for still apparently (as last stuff sent me on a mental breakdown after coming out of a shitty k hole in shitty circumstances when all i wanted was a nice, fluffy feeling whilst watching a series - so if you run into ROCK ketamine - go easy on it (and yea, someone with my username is sayin that!)

 

[Shambles]

I also miss MXE!!!

Somewhat funny related story… last time I took MXE was 10 years ago when I first met up with @Sadie as a forming couple. This is back when I knew no such thing as moderation…

Suffice to say I ended up taking waaaay too much and came around an hour or so later thinking I was a prisoner in a Japanese POW camp.

Once I came down a lil more she explained to me I’d blacked out and she had to hold my willy for me to pee out the door of the tent.

The embarrassment was real

Still, she touched my willy for the first time and she hasn’t stopped since so I guess not all was lost

PS: More responsible use of MXE is possible and advised

 

[deficiT]

yeah, we were spoiled with mxe for real. it kinda ruined dissociatives for me, I've tried to recapture the magic with ketamine or other substances for years, to not much avail, k is just an inferior drug imo.

it would sell like hot cakes if someone actually made a lot of it, instead we get some asshole coming around every couple months selling it for 500 bucks a gram or something stupid.

i imagine it has something to do with the legal scheduling, ketamine still being semi-legal and very prevalent everywhere, while mxe sits in schedule 1, or whatever equivalent fully restricted status. so the drug market deems, "ketamine is good enough for this dumb lot" and this is precisely why we can't have nice things.

 

[matt<3ketamine]

I also miss MXE!!!

Somewhat funny related story… last time I took MXE was 10 years ago when I first met up with @Sadie as a forming couple. This is back when I knew no such thing as moderation…

Suffice to say I ended up taking waaaay too much and came around an hour or so later thinking I was a prisoner in a Japanese POW camp.

Once I came down a lil more she explained to me I’d blacked out and she had to hold my willy for me to pee out the door of the tent.

The embarrassment was real

Still, she touched my willy for the first time and she hasn’t stopped since so I guess not all was lost

PS: More responsible use of MXE is possible and advised

hahaha bet you heard she did that for ya and immediately thought 'she's a keeper alright!'
@Sadie you utter legend!
wish i got to party with you's lot more back in the day but we were stuck in rainy ol' ireland lol

 

[Shambles]

Hell yeah!!!

And likewise, brother

 

[emkee_reinvented]

First time experiece, after a fight with my ex. In almost darkness,
took 1 and then nr 2 Fat K sized lines.
Grabbed my bike thinking when and will this shit kick in >
Probably a dud. No, just a lower dose [needed] and slow come up.
You took way to much. Reflecting back.

Dark getting outside while riding, it started. Got of my bike no light,
meet a Cop and your 80,- lighter. Bizarre how the mind can still function.
Sure didn t want a talk with one. No one att.

All-ready entering the M-hole, so while i walked in a alien world,
and felt the sponges like effect of the ground,
5 meter below Sealevel walking on Peat.
Incredible, a conscious and non amnesistic, but still very bizar hole.

I was one with the planet, and lucid. And totally out of my mind

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I ended up taking waaaay too much and came around an hour or so later thinking I was a prisoner in a Japanese POW camp.

I laughed so much reading that part.

I had a conversation with some Robot Geisha that played The shamisen very well, they told me they were getting pissed off with people just turning up in their Dimension without saying they were coming, they found this very rude & if I turned up in their space again I would be kept there.
The most weird part was the moment they let me go I came round from the hole / trip & was 100% sober, it was literally in a room with robot looking Geisha beings then I am back in the UK sitting in the kitchen, it was one of those trips that makes you question what is real & if that experience wasn't just a weird brain movie from too much dope I better watch what dose I take, knowing my luck that was real & I would end up trapped in a room for eternity with some bizarre multi dimensional beings.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Magical drug. Up there with any of the classics.

Could either take a small amount and function when out and about (pubs / clubs even) or sit at home and dissolve into music / a film. Even my 'non drug using' (weed aside) girlfriend at the time enjoyed it. Wish I'd stockpiled, or that some chemical entrepreneur would bring it back into wider availability.

 

[Bleaney]

I wasn't hugely into it, but experimented with a few grams.

What it did to my thinking and thought processes was quite bit more surreal than Shrooms, next level really, but with minimal anxiety that could set one down a bad trip.

I genuinely once started to experience an OBE, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) I did not feel comfortable with it, and didn't allow myself to go with it, and kind of fought against it, and snapped my mind back into my brain pretty sharpish.

I've still not decided whether I'd go with it, or fight against it once again, if I could go back in time and have that opportunity again.

OBEs are fascinating but also scary at the same time ime/o. I think it's the association of OBEs with death, or nearly dying and then coming back that scared me. The self preservation part of my mind thought "I might die if I go with this. I could leave my body and never return." I still dunno enough about OBEs or near death experiences to have decided one way or the other.

Any stats on how many people have had OBEs on dissos, esp MXE, and not died would be interesting.

IIRC the safety profile of MXE taken on it's own was good. I've just done a quick search and seen a study reporting on 7 or 8 deaths when it was taken with another substance.

If that was the total death count associated with MXE then it does seem that it was very safe, in terms of risk to life. I think it could potentially have driven some pre-disposed people psychotic if they didn't keep in mind that they were experiecing the effects of the drug, or if they took too much, and too often.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

I'm surprised you never got much out of it. Were you taking anything else at the time?

Perhaps you're right about fighting it. I never spooked myself on it, but there was one memorable morning when I bought an energy drink called 'Black Sun' and took it as a sign that I should stand at a crossroads in a genteel suburb and hold the Black Sun aloft at the passing drivers.

A mate overdid it once and ended up shrieking at the top of his lungs in a local 'folk' bar (same suburb), meaning we had to leave before being asked to.

 

[Bleaney]

I don't think that I took it with anything else, IIRC.

I think I just found it too absolutely crazy for comfort. Maybe I should have taken more lower doses first and then potentially expanded my comfort zone, once I got more comfortable with the lower doses. I think I dosed too heavily, too quickly, looking back now.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Yeah, perhaps. If I ever gave it to anybody I took care to see it was the lowest possible active dose. Which was still pleasurable even to me with my tolerance. It always seemed like smaller doses worked even if you were accustomed to sitting alone and blasting off.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Magical drug. Up there with any of the classics.

Ever tried.......

4-MeO-PCP
3-MeO-PCP
DXM

@ageingpartyfiend & I posted about this a few weeks ago, I have horrific dyspraxia which has an impact on my daily life in the way I move etc, it was with MXE only that I was set free & was able to do things like 99.9% of Humanity can, the feeling of being set free & not have to think about moving an object, having to check left & right before you cross a road, being able to grasp sizes & shapes without having to think on it for 20 seconds before you move was such a welcome change & a kind of blessing. When I was really high on MXE my mind & hands were friends & worked well together, sadly as the MXE wore off I was sent back to the daily nightmare of dyspraxia.

Also MXE kills the PAWS depression totally flat, my Norwegian ex who used to cut herself with a Razor & had horrific depression loved MXE too, it cured her from cutting her arms, it rewired her brain after a very powerful trip with me one night, MXE had / has so much to give humanity.

 

[matt<3ketamine]

First time experiece, after a fight with my ex. In almost darkness,
took 1 and then nr 2 Fat K sized lines.
Grabbed my bike thinking when and will this shit kick in >
Probably a dud. No, just a lower dose [needed] and slow come up.
You took way to much. Reflecting back.

Dark getting outside while riding, it started. Got of my bike no light,
meet a Cop and your 80,- lighter. Bizarre how the mind can still function.
Sure didn t want a talk with one. No one att.

All-ready entering the M-hole, so while i walked in a alien world,
and felt the sponges like effect of the ground,
5 meter below Sealevel walking on Peat.
Incredible, a conscious and non amnesistic, but still very bizar hole.

I was one with the planet, and lucid. And totally out of my mind

'I was one with the planet, and lucid. And totally out of my mind'

Describes MXE in a nutshell lol i had it for 3 days straight at a festival - it was THEE BEST disso i've ever had that you could just bump, wait an hour, bump, wait another hour to redose then, BUMP, and BOOM you were on your arse!
Add ontop a Fat Freddy's Cat 150ug blotter and an OG orange Q-dance pill from when they first restarted making MDMA, and i was in another land, one that i could happily walk around in, feeling like a million quid whilst also tripping tits and jaw utterly going like a typewriter.

i went with a full gram from a lovely UK vendor and did 2 keys before trying to pack my tent, and the baggie STILL had a bit in it. That's how little you needed to get the full blown effects, and if ya liked those, do another bump and watch it change from a disso to a warm trippy opi to a full on hallucinogen to an ego death causer, giving me a whole new outlook on death and what is after (don't worry i came to on the sofa with my brains thoroughly out my arse), and imo, alot of it's more unique effects, was all depending on what your dose was lol

 

[matt<3ketamine]

I wasn't hugely into it, but experimented with a few grams.

What it did to my thinking and thought processes was quite bit more surreal than Shrooms, next level really, but with minimal anxiety that could set one down a bad trip.

I genuinely once started to experience an OBE, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) I did not feel comfortable with it, and didn't allow myself to go with it, and kind of fought against it, and snapped my mind back into my brain pretty sharpish.

I've still not decided whether I'd go with it, or fight against it once again, if I could go back in time and have that opportunity again.

OBEs are fascinating but also scary at the same time ime/o. I think it's the association of OBEs with death, or nearly dying and then coming back that scared me. The self preservation part of my mind thought "I might die if I go with this. I could leave my body and never return." I still dunno enough about OBEs or near death experiences to have decided one way or the other.

Any stats on how many people have had OBEs on dissos, esp MXE, and not died would be interesting.

IIRC the safety profile of MXE taken on it's own was good. I've just done a quick search and seen a study reporting on 7 or 8 deaths when it was taken with another substance.

If that was the total death count associated with MXE then it does seem that it was very safe, in terms of risk to life. I think it could potentially have driven some pre-disposed people psychotic if they didn't keep in mind that they were experiecing the effects of the drug, or if they took too much, and too often.

If you'd call being no one and nothing all at once and being content with that all of a sudden thanks to this tranquil space i was in, then that may be an OBE
Deffo had more OBE experiences with K than with Sexy Mexxy though unless i ego death'd myself

 

[emkee_reinvented]

'I was one with the planet, and lucid. And totally out of my mind'

Describes MXE in a nutshell lol i had it for 3 days straight at a festival - it was THEE BEST disso i've ever had that you could just bump, wait an hour, bump, wait another hour to redose then, BUMP, and BOOM you were on your arse!
Add ontop a Fat Freddy's Cat 150ug blotter and an OG orange Q-dance pill from when they first restarted making MDMA, and i was in another land, one that i could happily walk around in, feeling like a million quid whilst also tripping tits and jaw utterly going like a typewriter.

i went with a full gram from a lovely UK vendor and did 2 keys before trying to pack my tent, and the baggie STILL had a bit in it. That's how little you needed to get the full blown effects, and if ya liked those, do another bump and watch it change from a disso to a warm trippy opi to a full on hallucinogen to an ego death causer, giving me a whole new outlook on death and what is after (don't worry i came to on the sofa with my brains thoroughly out my arse), and imo, alot of it's more unique effects, was all depending on what your dose was lol

after my slip up, which ended like your bizar exp quite well, taking in account.
it became very fast a daily supplement. for me, and it was weirdly non addictive,

yet very compulsive

Biut outbeated any medication a dr has

 

[matt<3ketamine]

Ever tried.......

4-MeO-PCP
3-MeO-PCP
DXM

@ageingpartyfiend & I posted about this a few weeks ago, I have horrific dyspraxia which has an impact on my daily life in the way I move etc, it was with MXE only that I was set free & was able to do things like 99.9% of Humanity can, the feeling of being set free & not have to think about moving an object, having to check left & right before you cross a road, being able to grasp sizes & shapes without having to think on it for 20 seconds before you move was such a welcome change & a kind of blessing. When I was really high on MXE my mind & hands were friends & worked well together, sadly as the MXE wore off I was sent back to the daily nightmare of dyspraxia.

Also MXE kills the PAWS depression totally flat, my Norwegian ex who used to cut herself with a Razor & had horrific depression loved MXE too, it cured her from cutting her arms, it rewired her brain after a very powerful trip with me one night, MXE had / has so much to give humanity.

to quote my now deceased second mother that had 2 types of cancer, basically: "this is the best, i feel...energetic? i wanna go round to the shops" so there go me and 2 other oxy fiends, one being her son, skipping along to the shop with her. She hadn't went round to the shops in 2 odd years and had others help - but not even ket did what MXE did for that incredible woman.
There was DEFFO high research potential but typical government - jumps the gun before thinking 'hey..guys, maybe...just maybe..hmmm...we could USE THAT, FOR THIS MEDICAL PROBLEM?!'
You last sentence is right and is why i'm wondering wtf is going on with nobody jumping on this literal money train yet.

 

[Bleaney]

If you'd call being no one and nothing all at once and being content with that all of a sudden thanks to this tranquil space i was in, then that may be an OBE

That sounds more like ego death? That's not something I've ever experienced.

Out of Body Experience is literally just that. Some people (hippy types) call it Astral Projection. Your mind leaves your body, and looks down upon it from above. Sometimes the mind can go wondering around the place you're in.

My experience felt like just the beginning, suddenly my mind detached from my brain, and then proceeded to float to about a meter above myself, with my physical body lying on the couch below. My mind felt attached to my brain by some sort of chord. It wanted to float away further and higher.

My reaction was like "WTF is happening here!? Get back now!" Rather than "oh this is interesting, let's go with it, and see what happens." Not that I really had the time to put things into such clear words, it was more of a kind of instinctive reaction, before words, as things happened quickly! I felt it could have gone either way before my reaction, and I think due to my reaction, my mind did indeed just snap straight back into my brain again. To my relief. At the time.

I think it was probably the associations with near death and actual death that freaked me out, otherwise I might have been more open to going with it. I've known a couple of people IRL who've had OBEs and they've lived on long after to tell the tales.

Funnily enough I think they were both neuro-divergent. The first guy openly disclosed his Aspergers and Schizophrenia (what a cluster fuck to have to deal with!) and the second person I'm sure had ADHD, or Autism, or both, knowing what I know now about the conditions. I also have Autism and ADHD. I speculate us ND folk are more susceptible to OBEs, somehow, but especially under the influence of dissociative drugs etc.

Could make an interesting scientific study. But the whole subject is very hard to gather actual scientific evidence about, as it's all hear-say, and is very open to different interpretations as to what actually happened.

 

[OcCo]

MXE always felt dirty to me, it gives me a similar feeling to all the ketamine around at the minute although it required far less.

Maybe that could be something to do with the synth as most ketamine now comes from China with impurities and seeing how disgusting the places are there making drugs are.

I don't believe the death count is so low from MXE back when it was being sold as 'Rhino ket' here I witnessed 2 people on separate occasions needing an ambulance one ended up needing dialysis he had alcohol and cocaine in his system and had a seizure the other had only ingested MXE and again hand a seizure and nearly choked on they're own vomit these were from small lines.

It vanished as quick as it appeared even though it could still be bought easily from legal high sites.
These leads me to believe there was plenty of adverse reactions and main suppliers of it who sold coke, pills etc had heard about these and thought it wasn't worth the negative attention it was drawing.

 

[matt<3ketamine]

That sounds more like ego death? That's not something I've ever experienced.

Out of Body Experience is literally just that. Some people (hippy types) call it Astral Projection. Your mind leaves your body, and looks down upon it from above. Sometimes the mind can go wondering around the place you're in.

My experience felt like just the beginning, suddenly my mind detached from my brain, and then proceeded to float to about a meter above myself, with my physical body lying on the couch below. My mind felt attached to my brain by some sort of chord. It wanted to float away further and higher.

My reaction was like "WTF is happening here!? Get back now!" Rather than "oh this is interesting, let's go with it, and see what happens." Not that I really had the time to put things into such clear words, it was more of a kind of instinctive reaction, before words, as things happened quickly! I felt it could have gone either way before my reaction, and I think due to my reaction, my mind did indeed just snap straight back into my brain again. To my relief. At the time.

I think it was probably the associations with near death and actual death that freaked me out, otherwise I might have been more open to going with it. I've known a couple of people IRL who've had OBEs and they've lived on long after to tell the tales.

Funnily enough I think they were both neuro-divergent. The first guy openly disclosed his Aspergers and Schizophrenia (what a cluster fuck to have to deal with!) and the second person I'm sure had ADHD, or Autism, or both, knowing what I know now about the conditions. I also have Autism and ADHD. I speculate us ND folk are more susceptible to OBEs, somehow, but especially under the influence of dissociative drugs etc.

Could make an interesting scientific study. But the whole subject is very hard to gather actual scientific evidence about, as it's all hear-say, and is very open to different interpretations as to what actually happened.

yea, i think i've had OBE's before, just not on MXE - tbh K gave me more OBE's if i think about it, i once was inside Samurai Champloo and was walking with them in it. It has also gave me closure by 'speaking to my grandfather' long after he passed during one experience but that wasn't OBE, that was more in my head. Whilst the Samurai Champloo one i was literally there in Edo period (iirc) Japan everywhere i looked.
I've had many similar experiences where i have been 'teleported', mostly into different series of stuff, but i stopped kinda 'recognizing/detailing' that something that happened was: "oh, that was an OBE/CEV" a while ago, sadly. Now i just see what happens and enjoy it if it happens. I can't really k-hole anymore (without going mad trying) so my OBE's and CEV's and whatnot, i can barely remember a lot of the details nowadays of those experiences, compared to my posts from when i first was on here and writing essay's about my experiences when i first started getting into chemicals besides ethanol.
4-aco-dmt + k-hole = floating in a kind've 'alex grey's 'godself' kind of rooms of faces - honestly, never felt so tranquil and zen, i was floating with acid techno as my soundtrack. When i opened my eyes, i was under my friends turntables, crossed legs, head down, just wondering 'wtf was THAT' and then realised my mates (rip @SpecialK_) were all doing the same and i was the first to speak n break everyone out of 'their daze', then we all just went Wow and giggled our asses off at how incredible this compound is, but also i came out of it thinking how incredible the world is! And if that is a 'zen state', everyone should experience it, and was even less worried about death and what happens after, thinking 'if that is similar to where we go after all this? then i don't mind at all!