Marauder
Bluelighter
NOTE: 50mg is a HIGH first dose. I have been experimenting with MXE daily at various doses and via multiple ROAs. Start off at 5-10mg insufflated/IM or 10mg sublingual/oral.
Morning started out shitty: Took daily 1200mg Gabapentin dose and 100mg Zoloft because I'm withdrawing from Effexor XR 150mg BID. Also worth noting is a 30-40mg in 1-2 day xanax black out incident days prior. The SSRI/benzo issues might be the cause of the nausea and unrelated to MXE specifically in this case.
T+00:00: High as a kite on AM/JWH/weed/hash after a 2 day break. Measured out 50mg (+/- 5mg), crushed/cut powder into two lines. Absolutely no burn.
T+00:10: Slightly off baseline but unable to describe exactly how, especially because of the drug abuse the prior week (which is NOT a common habit.) Almost like a nitrous comedown without the headache. Physical pain did not bother me (had friends pinch me etc.) I felt the pain, but was emotionally disassociated from it (like on opiates.) It doesn't mean pain felt good.
T+00:30: After half an hour (from my perception, which was likely slowed down) I railed another 25mg. Friends (only high on above cannabinoid combo) and I walked about a mile. I had trouble walking straight but was generally in a good mood. Cannot completely describe the state as being pleasant euphorically. It didn't feel bad either. read: MXE takes a long time to peak. In more reading of the literature, it appears that most MXE trainwrecks are due to trying to potentiate or prolong the initial silly/good mood during the come up.
T+00:60: Had no recollection of how we got to destination, but knowing full well that we merely walked. Colors seemed vibrant; A "does the world always look like this?" feeling, without anything specific being out of place in terms of perspective and color.
The worst effect was I could not focus my vision on anything specific and could not hold my gaze at something directly. Had to use peripheral vision for sight but could not explain exactly how/why my vision was impaired. Looking at things became annoying to the point of almost being nauseating, although I only associated the nausea feeling with this "motion sickness" after the effects worth off. At the time my stomach felt OK and I was just annoyed at not being able to focus.
T+02:00: Major time dilation and in looking back now, I'm not sure if this really was the 2hr mark. Felt like I was coming down (but probably wasn't!) vision issues began subsiding I think, and/or I felt motion sick. Nausea and headache began getting worse as the hour went by. I was in the back of a car on the road this hour and cannot explain nor remember what I felt with my eyes closed. It wasn't "good" or "bad." I just existed.
T+03:00: Nausea intense. I recall having not eaten most of the day minus breakfast about 8-10 hours earlier. Attempt eating a Subway sandwich with zero appetite, a little disgust and the nausea increasing with every bite. Get a bag ready and contemplate inducing nausea which was completely ruining my experience. (side note: I am generally not prone to motion sickness, but I am prone to nausea on the 2C* come up. Enough that I feel better sometimes inducing vomiting. This may lead to vomiting becoming habitual when nauseated.)
T+:03:30: Nausea is bad enough that I leave the film showing we were at and sit in car with music on for about 30 mins. No interesting auditory enhancement and some music ADD experienced. The chilliness outside began feeling uncomfortable so the heater went on. Began feeling better but the thought of getting out of car and walking back to venue felt burdensome.
T+04:00: Figured the nausea/headache may be MXE induced along with some confusion. Confusion is not a good word here. Eerie or "dark" might be a better word. (I realize now that this meant the drug was not wearing off at all.) I knew who/what/where I was, or at least knew OF these "facts" but it felt somewhat meaningless in the grant scheme of things which itself made no sense. Yes I'm alive, I took a drug, time is slow, this will wear off, etcetc, but knowing and believing these facts felt almost ridiculous. Sure they were true, but what exactly does that mean?*
What does one do in such a case? I parachuted ~10mg MDPV. Began feeling a little bit better after 5 mins, the nausea feeling more like the temporary 5-MeO-DMT "euphoria in my stomach" nausea common at high doses of insufflated 5-MeO-DMT but much more unpleasant.
T+05:00: Nausea subsides (do not remember when exactly) along with headache and I feel much better.
T+06:00: Insufflate 10mg MXE and feel much better, with a headache that comes and goes 10-20 mins after insufflation. Could not quite put figure on how/why I felt good. Upbeat? More talkative/sociable? Less overwhelmed?
Effects are hard to describe without much prior dissociative experience. *Only way to describe the eerie/confusion effect was like a nitrous oxide hit.. Next time you take a big hit of laughing gas, don't laugh, but instead take a deep breath and try to make perfect logical "sense" of everything around you. It's very bizarre and can be extremely frightening.
With tripping on "conventional" psychedelics, you may feel overstimulated and associate this with "losing your mind" or your senses, but after trying dissociatives, I would say being overstimulated is having too much of your mind. With MXE I begin to see "between" stimuli. The silence that reminds you that life in the big picture doesn't make much sense at all. It's chaotic and absolutely absurd. This can be very scary.
START OFF AT 10-25mg. No heroic doses w/ dissociatives. I can see where the social stigma against LSD and other psychedelics would come from. Be careful!
EXPERIENCED PSYCHONAUT HEROES READ:
I can and do sometimes function in everyday life tripping hard on 2Cs, shrooms, etc. I can do these things because I don't feel impaired. Perhaps it's tolerance, experience or a pallative effect from poly drug use. I can compensate for what the drugs are doing to my head. You CANNOT do this with dissociatives, at least not until you have a lot of experience and a high(er) tolerance. The physical wobbliness alone is very impairing.
I was with friends who knew what I was on. There were many points during the trip where I was completely out of it, almost walked into traffic before realizing how messed up I was physically and just outsourcing my judgment to friends for example. I also couldn't stand up straight and constantly had to lean on things during the peak (folks, this can put you in great physical danger) and unlike on 2ce and shrooms where I "think" I'm acting irrational or attracting attention but it's really just in my head, on the dissociatives I thought my impairments weren't that noticeable. Go figure!
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Morning started out shitty: Took daily 1200mg Gabapentin dose and 100mg Zoloft because I'm withdrawing from Effexor XR 150mg BID. Also worth noting is a 30-40mg in 1-2 day xanax black out incident days prior. The SSRI/benzo issues might be the cause of the nausea and unrelated to MXE specifically in this case.
T+00:00: High as a kite on AM/JWH/weed/hash after a 2 day break. Measured out 50mg (+/- 5mg), crushed/cut powder into two lines. Absolutely no burn.
T+00:10: Slightly off baseline but unable to describe exactly how, especially because of the drug abuse the prior week (which is NOT a common habit.) Almost like a nitrous comedown without the headache. Physical pain did not bother me (had friends pinch me etc.) I felt the pain, but was emotionally disassociated from it (like on opiates.) It doesn't mean pain felt good.
T+00:30: After half an hour (from my perception, which was likely slowed down) I railed another 25mg. Friends (only high on above cannabinoid combo) and I walked about a mile. I had trouble walking straight but was generally in a good mood. Cannot completely describe the state as being pleasant euphorically. It didn't feel bad either. read: MXE takes a long time to peak. In more reading of the literature, it appears that most MXE trainwrecks are due to trying to potentiate or prolong the initial silly/good mood during the come up.
T+00:60: Had no recollection of how we got to destination, but knowing full well that we merely walked. Colors seemed vibrant; A "does the world always look like this?" feeling, without anything specific being out of place in terms of perspective and color.
The worst effect was I could not focus my vision on anything specific and could not hold my gaze at something directly. Had to use peripheral vision for sight but could not explain exactly how/why my vision was impaired. Looking at things became annoying to the point of almost being nauseating, although I only associated the nausea feeling with this "motion sickness" after the effects worth off. At the time my stomach felt OK and I was just annoyed at not being able to focus.
T+02:00: Major time dilation and in looking back now, I'm not sure if this really was the 2hr mark. Felt like I was coming down (but probably wasn't!) vision issues began subsiding I think, and/or I felt motion sick. Nausea and headache began getting worse as the hour went by. I was in the back of a car on the road this hour and cannot explain nor remember what I felt with my eyes closed. It wasn't "good" or "bad." I just existed.
T+03:00: Nausea intense. I recall having not eaten most of the day minus breakfast about 8-10 hours earlier. Attempt eating a Subway sandwich with zero appetite, a little disgust and the nausea increasing with every bite. Get a bag ready and contemplate inducing nausea which was completely ruining my experience. (side note: I am generally not prone to motion sickness, but I am prone to nausea on the 2C* come up. Enough that I feel better sometimes inducing vomiting. This may lead to vomiting becoming habitual when nauseated.)
T+:03:30: Nausea is bad enough that I leave the film showing we were at and sit in car with music on for about 30 mins. No interesting auditory enhancement and some music ADD experienced. The chilliness outside began feeling uncomfortable so the heater went on. Began feeling better but the thought of getting out of car and walking back to venue felt burdensome.
T+04:00: Figured the nausea/headache may be MXE induced along with some confusion. Confusion is not a good word here. Eerie or "dark" might be a better word. (I realize now that this meant the drug was not wearing off at all.) I knew who/what/where I was, or at least knew OF these "facts" but it felt somewhat meaningless in the grant scheme of things which itself made no sense. Yes I'm alive, I took a drug, time is slow, this will wear off, etcetc, but knowing and believing these facts felt almost ridiculous. Sure they were true, but what exactly does that mean?*
What does one do in such a case? I parachuted ~10mg MDPV. Began feeling a little bit better after 5 mins, the nausea feeling more like the temporary 5-MeO-DMT "euphoria in my stomach" nausea common at high doses of insufflated 5-MeO-DMT but much more unpleasant.
T+05:00: Nausea subsides (do not remember when exactly) along with headache and I feel much better.
T+06:00: Insufflate 10mg MXE and feel much better, with a headache that comes and goes 10-20 mins after insufflation. Could not quite put figure on how/why I felt good. Upbeat? More talkative/sociable? Less overwhelmed?
Effects are hard to describe without much prior dissociative experience. *Only way to describe the eerie/confusion effect was like a nitrous oxide hit.. Next time you take a big hit of laughing gas, don't laugh, but instead take a deep breath and try to make perfect logical "sense" of everything around you. It's very bizarre and can be extremely frightening.
With tripping on "conventional" psychedelics, you may feel overstimulated and associate this with "losing your mind" or your senses, but after trying dissociatives, I would say being overstimulated is having too much of your mind. With MXE I begin to see "between" stimuli. The silence that reminds you that life in the big picture doesn't make much sense at all. It's chaotic and absolutely absurd. This can be very scary.
START OFF AT 10-25mg. No heroic doses w/ dissociatives. I can see where the social stigma against LSD and other psychedelics would come from. Be careful!
EXPERIENCED PSYCHONAUT HEROES READ:
I can and do sometimes function in everyday life tripping hard on 2Cs, shrooms, etc. I can do these things because I don't feel impaired. Perhaps it's tolerance, experience or a pallative effect from poly drug use. I can compensate for what the drugs are doing to my head. You CANNOT do this with dissociatives, at least not until you have a lot of experience and a high(er) tolerance. The physical wobbliness alone is very impairing.
I was with friends who knew what I was on. There were many points during the trip where I was completely out of it, almost walked into traffic before realizing how messed up I was physically and just outsourcing my judgment to friends for example. I also couldn't stand up straight and constantly had to lean on things during the peak (folks, this can put you in great physical danger) and unlike on 2ce and shrooms where I "think" I'm acting irrational or attracting attention but it's really just in my head, on the dissociatives I thought my impairments weren't that noticeable. Go figure!
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