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Tryptamines [Mushrooms Subthread] P. Tampanensis & P. Mexicana A Sclerotia (Philosophers Stones)

I had 8 grams, and they were certainly different (which I wasn't expecting, no placebo effect about them).
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Well you might not have been expecting different effects, but you knew that what you were taking was different in some way to 'normal' mushrooms. This could have been enough to subconsciously influence the effects, maybe?

The visuals where quite mild but constant, and something very different to shrooms happened on them. I felt like my eyes were working seperatly, I had no depth percetption (I went to have a drink, and it hit my mouth when it looked like it was about a foot away, most other things looked like they were a lot closer), and could see a lot more (impossible to explain, but it's like I could see 180 degrees around me and more).
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I've experienced the effects you describe on cubensis shrooms. But not every time I've had them. One of the many beauties of psilocybin, in my experience, is that it'll hit you with something slightly different or new every time. I think this probably plays a large part in the apparent differences in qualitative experience between different strains and species of mushroom.

If you had a LOT of experience with both truffles and cubensis then you might be in a better position to comment about objective differences, but I think the factors I described above are more likely.

It's also possible that relative differences in concentration of the active ingredients can alter the experience, but I get the strong impression from what I've read that this would only account for subtle differences. (Baeocystine/Nor-Baeocystine are not very potent, I don't think they'd affect you much if you took them on their own, but they are suspected to subtly alter the behaviour of Psilocyn and Psilocybin. I also believe Psilocyn breaks down very easily and possibly gets turned into Psilocybin anyway - or the other way round.)

I also read something on a vendor's site about truffles possibly having an additional active ingredient that fruit bodies don't, but I've never seen this claim elsewhere so it's probably wrong.

Dan
 
well i did them last night,had a great time,smilling the whole night i was a bit dissappointed as i thought they would be a bit more meaningful and insightful but i suppose that comes with the more larger doses i dont think i'll bother with a trip report as nothing special really happended i just had a great time.cant wait to do these again but i might try a more larger dose,the taste wasnt that bad at all.Thanks for the advice
 
nah cause my mate wouldnt let me he didnt believe me when i said 11grams isnt that much and just so he wouldnt fuck up the night asking me if im alrite every few minutes,i did 7grams,next time i'll do the full 11grams though.
 
Sorry for bumping an old thread.
I bought some of these in Australia at a herb shop. Split a vial with a friend (of these hard little rocks, definately didn't look like any type of mushroom i've seen), and shared lots of nitrous between us. Pretty intense, insane trip!

But anyway, does anyone know if these little stones somehow contain a beta-carboline or some type of MAOI? I had a weak to medium pill the next day and got psycho effects off it.
 
HeadyNuggets said:
Chew them or grind them up. Swallowed whole you will not get the maximum effects.
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Could you please explain why? :)

I don't even chew truffles... I just pop the little bits in my mouth and swallow. A nice thick milkshake helps them go down easier as well. Always got a decent trip from them that way and I take between 10g and 15g per trip.
 
i have had both the truffles and MDMA together, found it a crazy trip.
No ill effects whatsoever, loved every minute of it
 
Although they both contain psilocin/psilocybin as the main hallucinogenic compound, some fungi have higher levels of baeocystin (the N-methyl compound: Psilocybin is the N,N-dimethyl compound), but I can't see that it would have that much of an effect on the experience, as only a couple of species contain significant levels of baeocystin (I think it's P. baeocystis and P. semilanceata), neither of which are truffles
 
Advice Please :)

I have just procured a vial of these as they are legal here in Australia (elsewhere?)... I've never tried anything but e before (not even pot) so was interested in seeing how these would affect us.

They are small and shrivelled, so dried and not fresh. I am curious on dosage however. My fiance and I had a quarter each of the vial - not sure on grams, will get that info soon and edit post - the vial was about the size of an average prescription pill bottle.

Now granted, we had both eaten a light-ish meal two hours before hand and had some more food an hour or so after - but we didn't really feel much of anything.

We'd had a few drinks too - not sure if that conflicts. We also chewed them up to eat them.

What I'm curious about is: where did we go wrong? Another friend got some of the same lot from the same place and had visuals etc - which is why we went and bought some. They sounded great.

Should we take more? Not drink? Any suggestions?

Thanks so much guys!

PartySmartie xx
 
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Try saving the image and putting it on imageshack or photobucket...Anybody looking at the properties can see the website where you got the picture from
 
Hmmm...

OK so we tried the rest of the truffles last night...

I weighed what was left - which was half the vial - and it was 3 grams. Keep in mind this stuff is VERY dried out, like little rabbit poos hehe...

Anyhow - we had half each of what was left, on a nearly empty stomach and with no drink to accompany it and within 45 minutes we started to feel something...

It was kind of like a weak ecstacy pill - no visuals for us tho - some senses seemed heightened (smell, hearing)... and my partner got a bit aroused from it too, altho not so much for me unfortunately. Mostly we just felt kind of lightly stoned, happy, cuddly --- increased heart rate --- some improved 'focus' while watching TV.

So all in all, I'm not keen to try again as I didn't think it was worth the money we spent. If I DID try it again I'd be inclined to take half a vial each instead of a quarter and see how it goes. But honestly - give me a good bickie any day! If I can't find or afford a bickie - I'll just have a couple of drinks and be done with it...

Thansk for your responses too guys...

Regards,
Tracey aka PartySmartie
 
i have tried the truffles now 5 times (unfortunately the laws have changed so i cannot purchase any more:( ) They have a pretty high content of psilocybin as i have tried doses of 8gram/10gram/12gram/14gram/15gram and never been dissapointed. The time i took 15grams of these i began smoking alot of weed at the peak of my trip and i blacked out !!! woke up and had a very good trip after that though :) :) :)

I have to say that these are very good visually and they are a good mental high, they last around 4-6 hours and the first time i tried these i was in hysterical laughter for most of the time! Everything had a cartoon feel to it and i was laughing that hard that i burst into tears =D =D
 
Philosipher stone truffles are a good possibility. When sold in countries where mushrooms are illegal (eg. from a drug dealer.) They are usually ground up and sold in chocolate so they can be absorbed with little effort on the part of the consumer. (In other words don't be suprised if they are in this form when you buy them.) This is however only a possibility as they are quite rare outside mushroom growing circles and quite hard to produce. If you live in a place with legal shrooms, they might be more common.

heres some info (can't posta link cause it's a source.)

Fresh Philosopher's Stone truffles are technically not mushrooms and do not look anything like magic mushrooms; they're closer to muesli or breakfast cereals.

Psilocybe mexicana is also known as the truffle or Philosopher's Stone. This hallucinogen will give you a stoned, psychedelic, philosophical, happy and visual trip.

According to some experienced trippers, Psilocybe mexicana is a very good alternative to magic mushrooms for first time users, because they give a good feeling and it is an easy controllable trip compared to other psychedelics. After taking these truffles, you will feel giggly and generally find yourself in an ecstatic state of mind. The psychedelic effects of the Psilocybe mexicana truffles can last as long as 6 hours. The psychedelic and euphoric effects will last for 3 hours, after which these effects will make place for a stoned effect of another 3 hours.

This Psilocybe mexicana truffle is a euphoric psychedelic (hallucinogen) and contains psilocin and psilocybin. Because of the different effects of this truffle, compared to other Psilocybe magic mushrooms other psychedelic alkaloids are suspected to be present.

Philosopher's Stones only contain about 50% water. That's why these fresh truffles will stay OK for several months when stored in the fridge. They have been developed in Holland following a recent ruling by the Dutch High Court, which banned dry magic mushrooms in the Netherlands.
 
nuke said:
psychedelic truffles
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close but not 100% right, they are actually sclerotia. only a couple of species of Psilocybes produce them and they arent as strong as the actual mushrooms, more like eating the mycelium. under the right conditions they can directly produce mushrooms.
 
They sell them in the caf's in amsterdam, along with all the mushies in the you want.

A few mates love them, these people are a *little* uncomfortable on stronger psychs, but fucking bliss out on the truffles.

Definitely a good starter buzz, nice gentle introduction.
 
why would they produce a 'gentler, euphoric trip' if they contain same psilocin/psilocybin as regular shrooms? has there ever been a study to confirm the alkloidal content of these mushrooms?
 
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