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Mushrooms - Semi Exp - Really weird

Psychedelics_r_best

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shrooms-medium-really wierd

Ok. right now I really dont know whats goin on. I feel everything might be fake, everything, the world. This is really wierd. But from what I remember this is what just happened.

Alright. I ate about an eigth and a half of shrooms at about 11:15 last night. Everythings nomal. Like the trip should be. I watch part of the yellow submarine. Then I guess I sorta crashed and started having a bad trip. WEll everythings all melty and things start to form other things you know. WEll what I really want to focus on is what makes this wierd. The comedown of the shrooms was all sudden like an hour ago I was tripping balls but now I am normal. Like the comedown was not long and trailed off like I expected, I was tripping balls, and the comedown was about an hour long. Like I went from totally tripping to baseline within an hour. And I mean everything seemed so unreal. Like nothing was real. I had this great urge to do and try things. Like there is this mental barrier keeping me in this world, and some outside forces are testing me to see if I stay in that barrier or break it. I explore my house, and everything is as it should be, as what I remembered before my trip. So I am walking through the house, I
turn on nearly all the lights in the house, like I am surprised no one got up, and I look in my dogs kennel, and he just stares right back. I feel as if the world was all just a fake. I walk up the stairs to my parents room, thier door is wide open, and I have all the lights on in the house so I'm wondering why they arent waking up. WEll Im walking up the stairs half expecting no one to be sleeping in my parents room, but there is, my parents. And I flet as if I should go wake them up, and see what happens, but there is that barrier keeping me from it. Like once I break this barrier
somehow through defying my nomral life the whole world will crumble around me and i will exist in nothingness, or find out the real reality. But I cant break this barrier. So I walk back downstairs, take my dog out of his carrier and take him to my room. ANd on the way I try to open my sisters door and look inside her room, like I am about to break this barrier, but I cant do it. And I close the creaking door, because I dont want to wake her up. WEll Im back in my room, trying to sort out reality, clapping to see if my dog reacts, seeing if thing are real, like if the world still reacts to what i do, try to test the world, see whats goin on. Well Im sitting here in my room waiting it up till the sun rises, seeing if the world still runs as normal. I feel so convinced now that the whole world around me is some fake. Like I have to test these barriers and try to break them. Right now I am soo confused as to what is reality, and what isnt. Like I feel as if the whole world around me was a fake, and by challenging the guidelines of normal life I reveal the fakeness. Like during my trip, I was curled up in my bed looking at the world, and as soon as I got out of my bed, the trip diminished, as if it had done so because I challenged it by acting on my own. I now feel like the rest of my life is a mission to break my traditional ways of life, I feel as if I get the courage to break these ways of life, these barriers, the world will somehow collapse around me and I will exist in some new dimension. But I am afraid to break and discard my original way of life because I like it so much.

Anyone out there. Please talk to me. HAs anything like this ever happened to other people. I seriously feel right now that if I set of the alarm right now, that my parents and sister would not react, and somehow the world would dissolve around me. Could anyone out there please respond to this with something, eventhough it sounds wierd. I mean I was tripping balls then I got up and within fifteen minutes or so the trip totally diminished, like I controlled my trip almost. But yeah, anyone out there, respond to this. Honestly I feel like the world is a conspiracy, and I must now test it and break the conspiracy. But anyone, if you get this, or understand this or whatever talk to me.

Honestly, i feel like commiting suicide just to see what happens. somebody please help or something!
 
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Hello Psychedelics_r_best,

I want you to know that you aren't the only one who has had this experience. It feels almost like waking up and realising that you were in a state of dreaming your entire life.

My advice for you is to simply pay attention to your experience without trying break through what you percieve now as barriers. There is really nothing that you need to do besides breathe and pay attention and allow the experience to happen.

I hope this helps,

evlove
 
i remember that after my first few mushroom trips i had this sense of pointlessness to the world, not like it wasnt real or fake though, but still less 'real' due to the surgical deletion of a lot of 'meaning' i had inferred upon it where there actually is no meaning an-sich. got a bit depressed from that, but i eventually found out there is nothing wrong with inferring meaning where there is none, it is part of the human illusion and we need to do that.
Try to sort things out a bit, the world is not fake, it might look different, but you'll figure it out. maybe take a break from drugs for a bit and just live, you'll see its not fake but renewed!
i hope this is a bit coherent for you, im a bit wasted on codeine and mj atm :)
 
...You've just learned some great truth from shrooms but you're overhelmed by the shock of the realisation so you can't see clearly.


Yes I experienced it too: I felt the world is an illusion, and I was trying to find some ways to test it and break the illusion.

Once I even experienced it while completely sober which was much more frightening than experiencing it on mushrooms: as I was sober, my thoughts & perceptions were still perfectly normal so the concrete perception of the illusional world was exactly as real to me than the perception of some chair when I was touching it. As an opposite, when such a thing is shroom induced, then as you're coming down, you're rationality starts reorganizing your perceptions, convincing you that such perceptions were just shroomy delirium wich has no valuable reality: that's much more easier and comforting for your rationality to make you believe the world you live in is the unique existing reality , but this is a way to hide the truth from your eyes: reality just seem so real because you rationality wants it to be real, but of course no matter how strong is rationality the truth is that you cannot be 100% sure of anything you've been teached to believe in during you're all life...
So just think that's a great gift which was made to you: you have an opportunity to look at things with free eyes: free from educational & rational conditioning, and that's a good perception basis to start with for deprogramming your self from all your certitudes in order to free yourself from illusions.

And remember this has nothing to do with madness: as long as you can handle such a faith in you realisation (dellusional state of mind) without it disturbing your everydaylife, then you are NOT insane ("insaine" is just a term for people whose state of mind is so far away from the "normality" that it prevents them from adapting themself to the society and everyday life course...if you can handle both the dellusional point of view and the normal reality point of view, then you're not creazy: you're free from yourself)


About my own experience: it was freaky but this was really enlightening as I had pure faith (not a single doubt) about the fact that everything was a great illusion created by my rational perception so there was nothing I could be 100% sure of.
Too bad I wasn't strong enough to handle such a shock in my everyday life certitudes: I started panicking, became paranoid, ended up at the psychiatric hospital were they gave me pills to bring me down and forget about any non conventional idea (that mean I stopped panicking, but I also lost my realisations), and after this I was never able to reach such a degree of freedom in my perception of the world.
So just be careful not to be overhelmed by your realisations: they can be pretty hard to handle sometime as they are very deeply disturbing your certitudes, striking violently your rationality (if you don't keep it under control, your rationality is so deeply hurted that you go in "paranoid conspiracy" stuff, and then instead of learning from this great state of freedom, you just fall into paranoid delirium that doesn't lead you nowhere, and worse it takes you away from this state of enlightenment so you're loosing the gift and cannot continue your exploration anymore
(testing and breaking the reality).

So the important point is that you understand that you're not mad (don't listen to people who say it's just shroom hallucinations: what do they know about life so they can be so sure that you're wrong, trust your self): your dellusional realisations are valuable and true, the "normal" reality as you percieve it in your everyday life IS fabricated and is probably not the unique reality/truth (realize that it just feel like an conspiracy/a lie to you because your logic & education made you completely convinced it was the unique truth to be found so you somewhat feel betrayed)

So you have to "trust yourself" (have pure faith in your learning, don't listen to the lies of common sense/rationality trying to convince you this is impossible) BUT (!!!) you MUST realize that you've been living in this world for all your life and you were ok, so there is no reason you should panick and get overhelmed by the thing now that you perception of the world has changed.
Just think that's a great opportunity to explore things with calm, patience, and MODERATION (don't allow you to go on the easy "conspiracy" way as you were about to do, and as I did in my own experience: this will lead you nowhere and worse: you'll loose the control of your "dellusional tool" and the opportunity to learn from it).

Always moderate your point/acts: yess the world is illsuional (you felt it for sure) but this doesn't necessarly mean that there is a conspiracy! MODERATION ! Don't allow you to go into easy paranoid stuff. You feel lost in the immensity of the unknown and that's freaky, you're experimenting fear which is normal (fear is saine, it's good for you): but don't allow you to go in panick/paranoia (these are the dark side of fear)...this is what moderation means.

As said Yoda: "quicker, easier, more seductive is the dark side"
 
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All the classic spiritual texts (I-Ching, Plato, Bhagavad Gita) discuss the ins and outs of what to do when you wake up and realise it's all a wonderfullly intricate dream.

They put it in context and offer techniques to work with your new understanding.
 
woah yeah. I was still tripping. I'm better now. haha.

That was actually really crazy sorta nice. wow. My trip was super good for the first half, then crashed into this freaky thing that I just wanted to end. But it was cool.

Haha. I think my testing things to break the illusion is just my concious mind on the shrooms wanting to do stupid shit, and my subconscious mind not wanting me too.

Oh yeah, and the wierdest thing was that at 3:15, I was tripping super balls, and by 4:45, all visuals were gone.
 
just remember that shamans don't think shrooms induce "stupid shit"...

I think my testing things to break the illusion is just my concious mind on the shrooms wanting to do stupid shit, and my subconscious mind not wanting me too
Probably it's much more easy to consider things this way I guess...Too bad your rationality did take you away from your learnings/faith...doesn't matter, better than the "dark side" taking you away from sanity...
...which is what has happened to me in my own experience as I stayed paranoid for one week and a half because I couldn't handle the huge realisation shock (deeply traumatising for my certitudes) and, as I was sober, neither could I forget about it using the easy rational pretext that it was drug induced bullshit.

I feel like both situations ("rational erasing" or "dark side overhelming") are a great waste of knowledge (such an opportunity to learn is a rare gift), but better be in the first case rather than in the second one for sure.
 
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when this happened to me, i went outside and touched a tree for a minute. then i was convinced that it was real, and i snapped out of it.
 
Psychedelics_r_best said:
woah yeah. I was still tripping. I'm better now. haha.

That was actually really crazy sorta nice. wow. My trip was super good for the first half, then crashed into this freaky thing that I just wanted to end. But it was cool.

Haha. I think my testing things to break the illusion is just my concious mind on the shrooms wanting to do stupid shit, and my subconscious mind not wanting me too.

Oh yeah, and the wierdest thing was that at 3:15, I was tripping super balls, and by 4:45, all visuals were gone.

Glad to hear you're okay :) I had the same thing happening to me except I was sober at the time, but it was probably the shrooms that caused it.
 
yeah that was a crazy trip. If any one here ahs seen the wall, my heads phones on my shelf turned into that decayed body sleeping in his mom's bed, and that was scary. And everything was an evil monster looking at me. The first part of my trip was insanely euphoric though, and I laughed a lot and said all this random stupid shit, I remember saying serendipity a lot. yeah, that was insane. Everything melted together too. Eventhough it was so freakish it was still a great trip though, because afterwards, when you know everythings ok, its just like, whoa that was amazing. Haha. and I cut myself on a piece of glass to see if I was still existing.

And I was still trippin a bit when i wrote that so thats why is sounds like I am so over the top, I am fine now. When I look back on it it just seems really amazing.
 
Indeed, it is a strange place.

I, as well have experienced it when I first entered the realms of psychedelia.

Sometimes it is best not to think so much and try to define the experience and perceptions of what was happening. The truth is so simple, yet we make things so difficult by analysing and defining. We are in a dream. All we are is energy. We are all playing a giant game of life dancing around this massive cosmic consciousness. You can make up any illusion you want in determining the truth to your reality or collective reality. Remove the boundaries of illusion. Evolve. Learn. Grow. There are more ways to see this truth than through psychedelics. Psychedelics only show us the truth for a temporary amount of time. But this is not fully beneficial because our material ego's suck back into our consciousness after the trip ends, and we try to make sense of what we were experiencing. Trying to make sense of this experience only causes more illusion and confusion, and in the end we rely on substances to experience what is truth to us.

Expand your consciousness and arareness. Find ways to diminish the thought processes which occur within your mind for 12 hours a day. Discover that the human race was born on this earth without language and thinking. Meditate. Love. =D
 
Eating mushrooms at high doses is not a joke. I mean this to say that for those of you who use mushrooms recreationally, you may find sometime that you are in a place of learning that just is straight out hard to deal with when you are not used to letting go of your ego.
 
Im totally fine now, I feel retarded I made such a big deal out of it. I just learned what to expect and how to deal with higher mushroom doses.
 
Yep. That's mushrooms. They'll take your brain and beat it into a pulp, sit on it and blend it for a few hours and then it's up to you to put back every piece together. It doesn't matter how many times you've done them previously, you can never ever underestimate them (well, unless you're in the market for ego annihilation ;) )
 
yeah I guess but you can still sorta get a feel for them and learn better how to react when youre on them. Like things arent as suprising the second and third times. But I agree with you mean girl.
 
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