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Mushrooms -- Experienced -- Words of wisdom from the shroom shaman!

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Words of wisdom from the shroom shaman!

59.3 grams(2g of them were aborts)

begin at 6:20 am

very stoned at 6:50am


Ok all, I have some very amazing intelluctual experiences to share to everyone.
First let me start that I can't type everything due to my laziness and the fact
it could take an entire book, but I will share the main points. Firstly, I weigh
140lbs and took 59.3 grams of fresh shrooms. This may be quite a bit, but I have gained
much experience, mostly from reading other's trip reports and knowing just relax which
I successfully did, despite physical stress.


Half an hour post injestion of over 2 wet ounces of equador shrooms, I already started getting visuals, I looked at the ceiling in my bedroom and it was offsetting itself a bit, like many seperate sections were shifting, split into tiles. I went to the bathroom
and looked at the towel and the fibers were shaking, vibrating, osclating rapidly, even from close up. Interesting ;) I went downstairs to look at the rug but it wasnt breathing much, although I could see it pixelating, as if it were made of tiny dots. Kinda reminded me of
the trip report someone had on AMT where he said stuff just vibrated rapidly. I saw that
on my last trip too but there was more breathing.


Anyway the visuals werent very much to see, but as I begin to peak about 2 hours
later I started getting loops of thoughts, I felt my mind "expand" with the wisdom
of the shroom shaman! We begin to communicate and he, she, it whatever you wanted the
shaman to be in its physical form, but its a spirit. He shared plenty of wisdom, facts
and advice with me. I didn't see much visuals nor did I even pay attention to them, I just
sat in the chair, deep in meditation, in touch with new knowlege that would change the
way I think, for life, for the better and helped me be more open minded!


1. Nothing comes easy in life, not even money. We all would like to be millionares, but in
reality not everyone even makes $200,000 a year. Of course some people get lucky
such as winning the lotto, being famous or landing an overpaying job, but for many of
us, we need to work hard on education and experience and work our way up the ladder.



2. Life has tons of limitations and we must be realistic about them. Humans can't
lift 2000 pounds, outrun a car nor fly. The law of diminishing returns plays a role here
because as you workout, you will see improvements, but they wont be on a linear scale.
Someone that can bench 150 pounds may be able to get to 250 pounds in 6 months, but in 12 months he may only be at 275 pounds and after 3 years he may be able to bench 325 pounds.
It gets expotentionally harder to gain more strength due to physical limitations. Even
computer games, such as AOE conquerors have limitations, for without limitations
it would be pointless for youd either win instantly or no one would win.


3. All humans are sexual, bisexual to be exact. but many humans, especially females are so devoid of sexuality they can accuratly be labled as nonsexual, although there are no absolutes in life. A guy who claims he cant tell if a man is cute, in fact can. Since
ugly is the opposite of cute, and a man who considers all men "ugly" by saying which man
is uglier, he in fact was able to determine which man was "less cute" or "more ugly"


4. You can't make someone do something he or she doesn't wish to or goes against her
beliefs. That said you can't stop someone from smoking, drinking, mating, collecting scales
or whatever makes him or her happy. What you could do however is educate someone about the
pros and cons, just as in life everything has its ups and downs about something. The key
word there is "awareness" You can't preach your beliefs on someone, but you can express
your opions, facts and disaprovals about something. Take mating for example. Some humans
see the joy in it, even though you do not, but you see the joy in other stuff, such as
scales and thick chicks which they don't. One could make them aware of the risks of mating
such as STDs and pregency and make them aware for something they find pleasurable, which
in itself is an *opinion* since not everyone finds mating pleasurable. Be sure to
differnate between fact and opinion. Instead of telling someone "dont do this, that" you
may express your views and let them take the whole gist of it into consideration and
base their decisions on it. Tell yourself this: Is it worth the risks? What will others
think about me? Would I care? Am I being selfish and taking my pleasures before others?
Am I hurting myself? Am I hurting the partner I choose to be involved in? One thing
can be well worth the cons to one person while to another person, he just can't see
a single pro.



5. There are pleasures and hazards to everything in life. This is the law of the
universe. For every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction. The shrooms
I consumed for example, I know will hurt me, but I feel the wisdom and experience
will help me far more. I am trading perhaps a week of my life in order to immensly
improve the quality of my life. I have done my research to do whats called "harm
reduction" This applies for everything, especially mating. You must be aware
whether you do drugs, view porn, mate, skydive, climb mountains that there are
pleasurable aspects as well as harmful aspects. You only have one life to live
besides reinceneration into another life different from this one, so you will
want to do as much as you can while harming yourself as little as you can. It has been
proven some events and actions are far more harmful than others, so thru awareness you
must determine if doing this, that is worth the risk for injury and death. it could
be mating, drugs, skydiving, anything, even eating!



6. The fact you like thick chicks and you find them more attractive is an opinion.
But however, the fact remains 75% of men like thick chicks. Saying thick chicks
are more attractive is not a fact, but if you say most of us like thick chicks, than
my friend, that is a geniue fact :D Again, as indicated above you can't force a chick
to gain weight, but you can explain your reasons and let her decide herself, not you
deciding for her. Be sure to differnate between facts and opinions. It is a fact indeed
that being below a minimum weight is unhealthy. Of course theres the element of denial
but you have accomplished the point of making her aware of the facts and opinions, she just
chose to ignore them and will face the consequences. No one is making you date
someone you arent attracted to. Its best to date someone that has alot in common with
you and there are tons of women out there that are your type. The women that choose
to be skinny may be someone else's type instead. attractiveness is just an opinion
but when I say thin chicks are not attractive what makes it a fact is at least one
man does not find thin chicks attractive, and that is me. I can only speak for my words
not others. I do know not everyone finds thin chicks attractive, but physically, thin
chicks arent healthy and also physically their bones stick out. See anorexia for more
extreme cases.



7. For everything ugly, there is beauty in it and beautiful things have "ugliness"
in them. I find scales beautiful, they arent so much as useful, but the technological
marval I find in them is amazing. They are like pieces of art work. People buy art
not to use, but to display and they enjoy looking at them. The same is with me and scales
Just looking at those scales, and knowing they work too makes me happy :D High end
scales are expensive, but they are also amazing. While I do use them, I often look at them
and think that thing can weigh in miligrams, we have come a long way in technology!
Why do people buy diamonds, there is no use to wearing one? Its for its beauty
and rarity, and makes one feel special knowing she owns something that does not come
easy to her. Not everyone sees things the same way I do. While I could explain how
amazing scales are, others just don't feel nor see the same way, but they may feel
cars are amazing.



8. The law of diminishing returns applys for everything, in this example I am discussing,
computers. I got a faster cpu but it didnt scale linearly, but I know I still have
the best deal of it, since I got it very cheap and am getting a good amount of extra
performance and any further performance increase is going to cost expotentionally more.
I need to stop somewhere. Some people would pay 3 times more for another 50% performance
while others would not pay another 20 bucks for 50% more performance. My budget allows
me to upgrade my cpu only so far and I need to be happy with that. I can always wait
for technology to advance further.



9. I know you complain about the less than impressive visuals, but shrooms effect
people differently and each trip is different. You got the best part of the deal
because while visuals are a fun thing, I wont deny that, its fleeting while the wisdom
I have shared with you will remain for life. I know I wont be able to remember it all
that is a limitation of my IQ, but I always learn new things all the time. Maybe
I will see more visuals next shroom trip or trips on acid or other drugs, but this
trip, said the shroom shaman, you really got lucky things worked out for you and will
help you in real life. I already knew I would be taking shrooms for the right reasons
and that I respect shrooms. I am not taking it to escape the harsh realities of life, but
to rather enhance my life thru meditation and shrooms are marely an aid to help me
meditate better and deeper. Overuse of shrooms, as I found out reduces their effecienty.
It is something special to be taken on occasion to experience their full benefits, be it
visual, educational or spiritual.



10. before my trip came to an end around 1am, I was told that many people live off ignorance
it is sadly true something as wonderful as shrooms, and any other drug is illegal. This is
the ignorance of the government. They only focus on the harmful aspects of shrooms. Who
are they to force their beliefs on? I would not make anything illegal that involved solo
or mutual consent for the benefit of everyone. Only things that pose a danger to others
should be illegal. That said, alcohol should not be illegal, only that its illegal to
drive while drunk. You have the right to harm yourself, but not others. By doing shrooms
I may be harming myself, but everything that is fun is also harmful. I have evaulated
the risks of shrooms and very few people die from them, and those that do have misused
shrooms or took them in the wrong setting. You can harm yourself from legal things too.
More people die in car accidents than smoking weed or eating shrooms. The government has not
found a way to profit off shrooms, something they should not even be thinking of. Shrooms
should be free and legal to grow and trade at no charge. I only ask people to consider
what they are getting to before doing shrooms. It might not be for everyone, not everyone
is able to comphrenend the wonders of shrooms, but they should be free to try them if they
choose to do so, they can always either try again or stop. I have made the right choice, and that is an opinion. You must decide if you want to try them yourself. I will not tell you if you should do shrooms or not, it is up to you to decide, not me. I can only tell you
how it made me feel, I can't predict nor am I responsable for the outcomes to you. Read other trip reports and evalulate your pros and cons just as I have. finally, I know only
a minority of people would get to read this trip report and also reading other's experiences
can never replace the experence you accquire yourself! I had no clue what shrooms would be like for myself, only that I had a general idea of what could happen. Just as I have no clue what me getting laid would be like, but I have decided it is something not for me. I feel the risks far outweigh the benefits and also I don't see much good out of it and can't imagine mating making me happy, and everyone has to respect this. I respect those who choose not to do shrooms.
 
oh, almost forgot to ask, anyone know why it feels like im breathing at a high altitude and also I feel warm and liquid and my fingers feel like wet rubber? also my whole body is tired and numb? must be the physical side but does it happen to anyone else?
 
No offence, but this report is seriously whack.

Kindda like the 10 commandments of a tripper.

Well keep taking drugs i guess...

;)
 
Haha... sounds like you did some thinking there dude. I don't agree with some of the things you think, but it could be argued that even the fact that you are thinking about the issues in your life is an important early step in really developing yourself as a person. Just don't take the 'wisdom' that you have come up with for granted, keep thinking through these issues. I will often come up with some pretty bizarre ideas on shrooms, and I make sure to think them through very carefully before I make them part of my 'core philosophy' on life. Sometimes I'm like 'wtf was I thinking', and sometimes the ideas I come up with really make a positive difference to my life.
I guess I'm saying that be aware that not everything to come out of such an experience is beneficial, keep exploring and you will find the truth eventually ;)
 
Is it a coincidence that CC's two loves both involve weight: Collecting scales and fat chicks?

I also disagree that most men like fat chicks. Source, please? In fact, to prove the contrary, if you were right then Playboy could sell more magazines using fat chicks instead of thin ones. But they don't. There is porn with fat chicks, but it sells to only a small market. So, anyway, I think that settles that. (How thick do you like them, anyway? 150? 180? 250? As thick as they can get?)

And this statement was funny:

Take mating for example. Some humans
see the joy in it, even though you do not, but you see the joy in other stuff, such as
scales and thick chicks which they don't.

It seems like you are saying you like thick chicks but you do not like mating... Isn't this a contradiction, or are you looking for a thick chick who does not want sex and just wants to hang out? Or do you just like to admire thick chicks from afar?

Anyway, I think you need to fix the thread title to conform to forum guidelines.

Lastly, I don't think I am as fond of trip reports that just list the tripper's alleged insights from the trip rather than giving a breakdown of how the drug felt in stages, how it made thinking or doing things different. But that's just me.

~psychoblast~
 
damn, how long were you sittin in that chair thinkin for?
hhmmm, well, it seems like you had some good ideas, i think you'd have to further edit/evaluate them before you did anyting with them.
i disagree with a few of your ideas, but it could just be you need to alter them slightly or be more clear about them?
i respect that you dont find pleasure in mating- to each their own, right? but if you dont mind me asking, why not?
mating is a part of life, cuz without it, shit... well i'll just leave it at its a part of life.
thick chicks are good, i'm not up for those chunky, fat, like 8o whoa, you know? theyre good with some meat on them.
 
Mushrooms lose potency when you dry them. 59 grams wet would be MUCH stronger then 5.9g dry. The psilocin is destroyed during the drying process - eating fresh shrooms is much better. *if you can handle the taste*

Personally I like just dropping dried shroom powder into 00 gelatin pills then drinking hot tea. Mmmmmmmm.

Psychetool
 
fb1 said:
No offence, but this report is seriously whack.

Kindda like the 10 commandments of a tripper.

Well keep taking drugs i guess...

;)


well heh I guess so. The shroom shaman helps you in life


"Is it a coincidence that CC's two loves both involve weight: Collecting scales and fat chicks?"


well they do complement each other but I like each on its own heh. The shroom shaman said thick chicks are the natural ideal beauty of women in the absense of todays society which wrap the views. I like em around 150-180lbs



"just wants to hang out? Or do you just like to admire thick chicks from afar?"


both of those. I both admire them and wish to hang out with them =D


"i think you'd have to further edit/evaluate them before you did anyting with them."


They make perfect sense to me. I do not doubt the shaman's wisdom. I still have much to learn from him as he will steer me in the right direction


"mating is a part of life, cuz without it, shit... well i'll just leave it at its a part of life."


The shroom shaman is aware of the wonders of life, but mating for fun loses its meaning and is fooling yourself. You accomplish little.


anyway I tripped again last night and O boy, ill write a trip report soon. I can put it here or start a new thread, let me know
 
Yea crazy, ãlways in for another read :) .
If it's whole different then start another thread, if it has the same shaman touch to it. It's best to post it in here, I guess.

Ok thanks for sharing!
 
70 wet grams at 3:50am


Hello guys, I consumed exactly 70 grams, give or take a few miligrams
but I weighed them to 70.0 grams, heh. They were wet equador shrooms. Man thats
alot it filled my bowl to overflowing and took some time to chew em all. My stomach
felt really full and ached a little. Perhaps I should try dried shrooms next time
despite the loss of potency, as 10.5 dry grams is much easier to get down and not
squashy with juice.
To pass time, I took a shower. Showers are ok before the trip hits
ya. I wanted to feel "clean" and fresh. Also it relaxes you and I felt very
calm. I begin feeling stoned as I dried myself. A thought occured to me that
it is unwise to be driving or operating heavy machinery, unless you are sure
you can be done within 15 min. It is best not to do anything though but sit somewhere
and not worry about the trip, just let it flow out!
I brushed my teeth to get the musty taste out, but at this point I was
already getting minor visuals! It was not even an hour post consumption. I had no
clue what was to come, not that it was bad, just my most powerful trip so far.
I stayed in the bathroom enjoying the fractuals I was seeing. It was totally amazing
too. Geometric shapes of all colors floated by my eyes, moving like they were alive!
everything in the bathroom seemed to be alive and radiated energy of life of
the magical shrooms! I looked in the toilet bowl and saw dark geometric patterns
on the surface of the water.
As time passed, my visuals became more intense, in fact this was my
most visual trip ever! The shrooms had respected my desires for visuals and
the visuals I got were pretty decent. I actually saw stuff physically swirl and
breath! The towels were rustling as if there were a breeze in the bathroom!
The bathroom rug was moving noticeabily. In fact almost everything moved or breathed!
The bathroom doors were breathing horzontally in wavelike patterns about 3 inches to
either direction. I looked at my arm and it did a triple blur! The hairs on my arm
was clear one second then blured three times in fast succession, then became in focus
again then blurred three times again! Whoa that was crazy!
The shroom shaman communicated telephatically with me! Some of the stuff I
remember were that money has no meaning to them, you dont truely own anything.
The plant you buy is still part of nature, it just happens to be in your private
area. The shroom shaman also said its disrespect to buy or sell shrooms and he
can't be held responsable if anything bad happens to them. Shrooms and all plants
are meant to grow free. One can obtain the wonders of shrooms directly at a land
far away from here. I was able to visualize that land. Nice green grass, perfect trees
gentle rolling hills, crystal clear river and lakes, essentally paradase. Mild crisp
clear air with a gentle breeze and there were giant 9 inch shrooms growing near trees
where they seek partial shade. That was their orgin said the shroom shaman. He
also gave me advice that will push me in the right direction, help me with my
future. Told me to try to be less lazy and also mating and other drugs do nothing
mentally. Getting laid is meant for procreation, those who mate for fun are just
fooling themselves. The shroom shaman has nothing against mating, just he sees
no knowlege can be obtained from that. I have gained much insight from the
shroom shaman(s) and perhaps you will be as enlightened as I if you choose to
trip on shrooms, thats a choice you must evaluate yourself.
Anyway I give my thanks to the shroom shaman and off he goes while I
look around and enjoy my visuals! I looked at the light on the ceiling and
OMG it looked so cool, I saw square pixelation and the light was a bright, animated
yellow too. The night light looked like a nose. I had to take a leak so I did
that and whoa it was slow motion! I took a piece of toilet paper and moved it around
and it moved very slowly, not really trailing just I could see each individual
frame in fast succession, like time slowed down greatly! I went to the computer
and looked at the LED on the monitor then looked away it seemed to steak off
for half a second. That was perhaps the begining of trails or tracers!
At this point, it was two hours after I ate shrooms and I was approaching my peak
my body load was quite intensive too. I felt like molten wax, sweating, hands shaking
and sweating, wiggling around bed. I went to parents bedroom to turn on the air and
felt much better. I left the lights on in my room and it looked and felt like an
artificial sun, emitting heat at me! The light was pixelating and I saw fractuals
everywhere man! I did have some closed eye visuals, but no where near as impressive
with my eyes open. I looked at the poster on my wall and it was actually moving!
It looked animated and I saw 3-d lumps which breathed in and out like bubbles.
Looking at the bathroom door, it looked lopsided to the right and about a third
narrower too. Slightly crescent shaped. That was my first real perspective disortion too.
The ceiling was breathing somewhat but it appeared to move closer than further from me
at a distance of like 18 inches! Also the ceiling seemed slanted, with the far end a
couple feet higher than the close end. Although not extreme, it was a clear sign
my perspective vision was indeed altered! I could still judge distance, but it
didnt look quite right either! I looked at my TV and it was breathing horzontally or
rather waving about 3 inches left then right. Try looking at bumpy glass then
move your head, the TV and other objects will look somewhat disorted. I would say
objects were about 10-15% off from their normal shape.
At this point I peaked then I started comming down! There was no plateu, I
instantly felt the "pressure" in me get released and the sweating and numb hands stopped
also same with my clenched jaw. Shrooms reminded me of every drug in a way. Is it
true shrooms are the ultimate drug in which you experience the effects of each
drug in a little way? The clenching reminded me of Ecstacy even though I never tried that
just read what it does. The shaking of some objects, especially close up reminded
me of AMT, another drug never actually experenced. The breathing and disortion reminded
me of LSD, yet another drug never tried :( but in a way, I had experienced it all
with shrooms! Looking outside the window, the plants seemed unusually vivid, green and
close to me. I could see much detail. Perhaps my eyesight was improved, I could
see what time it was at all times too and it was 7:00 am when I started comming down.
I just layed in bed enjoying the breathing and perspective disortions while time seemed
to pass and too fast my visuals lessened. around 8:00 am I hardly noticed any more visuals
My body high was lessening too and I felt rejunivated and full of energy.
I guess this is much of what I described of my trip. I can't remember every
little detail, but this was my best trip yet. I didnt feel so good after my trip, having
a headach that lasted a few hours also my stomach hurt and I wasnt hungry. I felt much
better after a nap. The trip was like a climb to the peak which is 3 hours then from
that it gradually tapers off, after 6 hours you feel normal but exhausted from
the psychadelic experience. Nothing a little rest wont fix!
 
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