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Nibsie

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I've never tried shrooms before and DH has gotten his hands on some. 20 years ago, I took LSD like it was candy, but that was 20 years ago. ;) I wanted to see what the time frame for this experience would be, and also note that I am on Wellbutrin and DH is on Seroquel. What kind of experience can I expect, generally? Will taking them at 8-9am be enough time to come down by 4pm? Also, how much should I take? I've asked the darling husband all of these questions, but I'd like others' opinions and experiences on the subject. Thank you for any input.:)
 
Arghhhh! Ever heard of Google, my dear?

Yes, I'm quite familiar with Google, thank you. I have researched, using Google, for two days now. I was looking for personal stories, pearls of wisdom, etc. I see that you are basically a weeping pustule on the arse of humanity and are, apparently, King of the Obvious, so I must assume that you also aren't that bright. I apologize at offending you by asking a question or two on a public message board, in the correct forum, in an intelligent manner. That must not be allowed here. I will take myself onward and upward. Namaste'
 
Here, let me do some of your work for you, Oh Queen of the Vapid Insults - Countless personal experiences and info here... far more concentrated and organized and useful than waiting for random, and often bad-advice containing posts to trickle in here:

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml

Your specific question revealed you hadn't managed to read and absorb even the most basic information - yes, if you take them at 9am you will most definitely be down by 4pm. How could you have read for 2 days and NOT picked that up? Anything else I can hand to you on a silver platter?
 
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Sorry... I don't mind going on and on about details of brand new and often perplexing RCs, and I sympathize with confused "virgins", and love to see people trying the Psychedelic Path for the first time, but c'mon it's like the oldest hallucinogen known to man with probably more Guides and FAQs about how to do them at more websites than any other substance on Earth, so I get a little yanked by new thread after new thread asking the same thing every 8 hrs.

I'm sorry Nibsie, please accept my apologies for being snarky. :\ I'm sure you will find plenty of good advice here. You might also want to look into a forum called The Shroomery, which as you may guess by the name specializes in the topic.

One thing... I know that SSRIs (Prozac, etc.) can dull or even block the effects of many psychedelics. I do know having been on it once a long time ago and having researched it, that it DOES have some re-uptake blocking effects on Serotonin (but not as strong as Prozac), as well as on Norepinephrine.

Don't know anything about Seroquel.

So it's possible that it may well diminish or alter the normal effects of shrooms. If I were you I would google "(wellbutin OR bupropion) (psilocybe OR mushrooms OR psychedelic)" and see what turns up.

Actually that is a pretty fitting topic with more obscure and confusing info than the one on duration. I bet you will find someone here with some experiences on that.

You might also try asking that specific question in then Advanced discussion area... probably some biomed student or other smartypants types that would have specific info on that question there, since I am such a dufus.

I'll shut my hair-trigger yapping little Chihuahua snout now, unless I have something else helpful to say. Mea Culpa.

Oh... just realized me and her hubby have same initials... that's kinda goffy! Oh well....
 
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I doubt your DH is going to have any kind of trip if he is on Seroquel. It does the exact opposite as most psychedelics (5HT2A anaagonist) and is actually good to have around to kill a bad trip.
 
Sorry... I don't mind going on and on about details of brand new and often perplexing RCs, and I sympathize with confused "virgins", and love to see people trying the Psychedelic Path for the first time, but c'mon it's like the oldest hallucinogen known to man with probably more Guides and FAQs about how to do them at more websites than any other substance on Earth, so I get a little yanked by new thread after new thread asking the same thing every 8 hrs.

I'm sorry Nibsie, please accept my apologies for being snarky. :\ I'm sure you will find plenty of good advice here. You might also want to look into a forum called The Shroomery, which as you may guess by the name specializes in the topic.

One thing... I know that SSRIs (Prozac, etc.) can dull or even block the effects of many psychedelics. I do know having been on it once a long time ago and having researched it, that it DOES have some re-uptake blocking effects on Serotonin (but not as strong as Prozac), as well as on Norepinephrine.

Don't know anything about Seroquel.

So it's possible that it may well diminish or alter the normal effects of shrooms. If I were you I would google "(wellbutin OR bupropion) (psilocybe OR mushrooms OR psychedelic)" and see what turns up.

Actually that is a pretty fitting topic with more obscure and confusing info than the one on duration. I bet you will find someone here with some experiences on that.

You might also try asking that specific question in then Advanced discussion area... probably some biomed student or other smartypants types that would have specific info on that question there, since I am such a dufus.

I'll shut my hair-trigger yapping little Chihuahua snout now, unless I have something else helpful to say. Mea Culpa.

Oh... just realized me and her hubby have same initials... that's kinda goffy! Oh well....


lol i just meant posting the erowid site is always a good thing, and i was about to until i saw that you had done it
 
Will taking them at 8-9am be enough time to come down by 4pm? Also, how much should I take? I've asked the darling husband all of these questions, but I'd like others' opinions and experiences on the subject. Thank you for any input.:)

well i suppose it depends on what sort of mushrooms ur eating, and what sort of dose ur taking, but if when you say 'come down' you mean totally return to normal then i would say that there is no way you'll have come down by 4pm. You may have stopped hallucinating but even then maybe not. i guess it depends what you have to do at 4 o'clock - if its work or picking up kids from school or summat then prob not....

Anyway tbh if ur new to mushrooms you should start off gently anyway..

have fun!!
 
I'm usually tripping strong within 1hour tops. Feel I'm well past by 3hr and feel almost normal by 5 or 6hour point, with a slight residual but insubstantial "glow". Driving was always EASY at that point, as long as one remembered you did something earlier and to go a little slower and take some extra care. Actually, studies show people are BETTER drivers on weed (and I'd suspect similar answers 8hrs post shrooms), probably from over-compensation due to feeling super relaxed and a little spaced.

If she indeed used to "eat LSD like candy" then I'd say shee should be just fine for work or driving at the 7-8 hr point, especially if she has something to eat at an hour before that.

I guess everyone's thoughts and experiences are going to differ which is why I balked at expecting much truly useful advice at a place like this. She's gonna get like 30 slightly to radically divergent answers, How is that going to help? Might as well roll a pair of dice. Best she can do is read read read the IMMENSE amount of info at Erowid and elsewhere and make her own decisions for herself.

Now if she were a 16yo who never touched any drug ever before, then no, I would probably advise against expecting to be "down" by 5 if she did them at 8am..... but shrooms were always disappointingly short for me... seems just when they start to get going good at 1hr point... 45mins later they are already starting to go away, and I have ALWAYS felt almost totally sober after 6hours, which if she did them at 8am would be 2pm with 2 hours to spare.

See "Effects" page at Erowid or about 1000 other sites.
 
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you should get hold of a wad of liberty caps, take enough of them and they'll keep you going for hours.... A quick bit of research via three sites (inc. erowid) describes effects lasting 6-12 hours; 9 hours and 10 hours

i'm sorry if my advice offended you mr Hoover however i still stand by it, taken at 9am, undoubtedly they (liberty caps or not) will still be in the system at 4pm, they may not be particularly active but they may effect judgement.
 
How did you get that I was offended? I was just providing details of my own experience. OK maybe a little sarcasm ("1000 sites"... sorry, I will admit to being a little sarcastic when typing).

You are correct, of course, it does depend on what kind of shrooms she has. I always assume people are talking about psilocybe cubensis, which I think are what is most often encountered. I never had liberty caps, so, yea, I know nothing about them.
 
so whats the point of this place then? ;)

The point of my initial sarcasm I guess is that she ought not be basing any important decisions around when she will be down based on answers here... no one should... everyone's decisions it must be emphasized need to be their own judgement within their own parameters and acceptable margin of error, etc, based on reviewing alot of material. I hate questions asking such a clear-cut answer as "WILL I be down by 4 O'clock?"

I said what I thought. And most psilocybe cubensis (yes, admittedly a presumption on my part) sites and FAQs I looked at said the experience "usually lasts 5 or 6 hours". Yes she may not feel totally 100% normal at that point. But for that matter she may never feel totally 100% normal ever again! =D

I think the purpose of "here" is, well its for everything, but I'd say its not for expecting clear-cut prescriptions for "What exactly will X, Y or Z do to me?"

Much better though IS the question of what impact might Wellbutrin and Seroquel have on them, the sort of thing not really covered in any FAQs or info pages, but that some people here might have helpful experience with.
 
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Well, it's surely folly to come here and ask 100,000 total strangers with totally different experiences reactions and viewpoints "If I take mushrooms at 8 or 9 will I be down by 4", which is a extremely specific question, and expect a definitive answer, dont you think?

i agree totally, tho I would describe your answer as pretty definite, wheras my answer perhaps adopted a more cautious approach, but don't get me wrong i agree with what ur saying re. mushroom resources, but from my humble experience the time frame that Nibsie is talking about is cutting it fine. Of course we all have different experiences and Nibsies is going to be different again, at least with varying reports and advice then she or any other reader may be able to understand the differences between individuals experiences and base their own expectations accordingly.
 
You're right... I was contradicting myself, which is why I edited myself, to be more clear about my approach, but you beat me to it, haha! It just seemed if she'd once "eaten LSD like candy" she ought to know perfectly well how variable these things are, and that she needs to rely on her own basic info-gathering and decision-making skills than to ask a giant roomful of whom-evers.

Well, sorry to her again for snapping.

It would indeed be useful to hear about what people who have done shrooms, then started Wellbutrin, then done them again have to say about the interactions, if any. I never ended up doing them when I was on it. Though I think I did try LSD a few times, and found it to have a very diminished effect, though it's been quite a few years for me to remember details.
 
My only advice to you is, don't ever underestimate the mushroom. My first trip, which took place

4 months ago, I took 3.5 Grams of some dirty ass looking bastards, I ate them with peanut

butter. 1 hour later I blacked out, did random bad things, I got naked and called my girlfriend

bad names. I didn't regain my sight until 6 hours later, where after i found out I peed in the

bed. I was "awake" the whole time I hear.
 
My only advice to you is, don't ever underestimate the mushroom. My first trip, which took place

4 months ago, I took 3.5 Grams of some dirty ass looking bastards, I ate them with peanut

butter. 1 hour later I blacked out, did random bad things, I got naked and called my girlfriend

bad names. I didn't regain my sight until 6 hours later, where after i found out I peed in the

bed. I was "awake" the whole time I hear.

Well that's a good point.

And wow... I this is something that seems to happen on strong psychedelics occasionally. It happened to you on shrooms. Ive heard of high doses of 4-aco-dmt doing it to people.

And: Once me and 2 other friends did 2 hits of what turned out to be some STRONG blotter LSD. Started listening to tunes (well and fooling around... all of us gay) and "whatnot" and all was bliss. But at some point, I recall "whiting out", and my memory is then a TOTAL black hole for about like 4 hours. Didn't pee in the bed, but after being catatonic for a spell, totally ruined their trip and fun by them not knowing what the hell happened to me, I "came to", was walking around the house naked, grabbing my crotch, acting extremely creepily lewd and rude and gross. etc., apparently totally unable to understand or speak English, Terry finally forced me to eat a bunch of Niacin which really did snap me out of it after it hit my stomach. No bed-peeing, but the blacking out and reverting to some still "awake" but like totally "reptilian" robotic behavior circuitry sounds very very similar. It was totally like my human mind was removed from my body and my brain stem alone was in some nasty, primitive mode of control.

I had ONE very deep and very frightening psychedelic experience, which consisted of ONE image that apparently took up the entire 4 hour-blackout, or maybe it took the entire 4 hours to "reach" it... and it was VERY VERY scary... hold onto your hats people... NEVER told this to anyone online... during this "White-Blackout", here is where "I" was:

It was some indeterminable time in the future.... only 3 minds still existed... mine (wondering if I had died), and what I can ONLY describe as some great powerful Native American "Grandmother Earth Goddess" consciousness, perhaps "Gaia"... we were both in orbit in space... there was the Sun off in the distance, looking normal, who was the 3rd consciousness (but like a giant silent eye, observing from from some very lofty deep billion-year old great-great-great-great-grandfather perspective, totally without any thought or emotion), in the distance, stars... and below us was The Earth, but it was not the lovely shimmering blue/white/brown/green living water paradise we know. INSTEAD IT WAS AN EMPTY SMOLDERING BLACK CINDER... "Gaia" or "Grandmother Earth Goddess" was VERY VERY VERY ANGRY with ME, as a representative of the entire Human race who had somehow caused this horrible catastrophe to happen to her beautiful precious pearl she had take so long and such care to grow. The mood was one of baleful, eternal mourning and sadness. She was as angry as it is possible to be. I was as sad as it is possible to be.. and just crying, crying for all of eternity, trying to say to Her "I'm so sorry.... I'm so sorry... I'm so sorry...."

I would have to call this under any definition a "Vision" more than a hallucination... it was like "She" had deliberately stolen my mind, seeing it was made vulnerable by the LSD, and whisked me to some distant possible future to confront me about the disaster she showed me. I don't have any other way of understanding what happened to me that night.

I didn't remember this until a couple days later... it was buried under alot of embarrassment about my brainstem's shameful lizard behaviour... then suddenly all at once the image/feelings came back to me like a recovered memory all at once, and I was utterly devastated for a LONG time till I could tell anyone else.

Not to hijack the tread... but what you you all think of that? If it's best to open a new thread, fine. Anyone ever have anything like this, either the "blackout" effect, or the "Earth-Cinder-Angry-Sad-Earth-Mother-Goddess-Spirit" vision happen to them?
 
Well that's a good point.

And wow... I this is something that seems to happen on strong psychedelics occasionally. It happened to you on shrooms. Ive heard of high doses of 4-aco-dmt doing it to people.

And: Once me and 2 other friends did 2 hits of what turned out to be some STRONG blotter LSD. Started listening to tunes (well and fooling around... all of us gay) and "whatnot" and all was bliss. But at some point, I recall "whiting out", and my memory is then a TOTAL black hole for about like 4 hours. Didn't pee in the bed, but after being catatonic for a spell, totally ruined their trip and fun by them not knowing what the hell happened to me, I "came to", was walking around the house naked, grabbing my crotch, acting extremely creepily lewd and rude and gross. etc., apparently totally unable to understand or speak English, Terry finally forced me to eat a bunch of Niacin which really did snap me out of it after it hit my stomach. No bed-peeing, but the blacking out and reverting to some still "awake" but like totally "reptilian" robotic behavior circuitry sounds very very similar. It was totally like my human mind was removed from my body and my brain stem alone was in some nasty, primitive mode of control.

I had ONE very deep and very frightening psychedelic experience, which consisted of ONE image that apparently took up the entire 4 hour-blackout, or maybe it took the entire 4 hours to "reach" it... and it was VERY VERY scary... hold onto your hats people... NEVER told this to anyone online... during this "White-Blackout", here is where "I" was:

It was some indeterminable time in the future.... only 3 minds still existed... mine (wondering if I had died), and what I can ONLY describe as some great powerful Native American "Grandmother Earth Goddess" consciousness, perhaps "Gaia"... we were both in orbit in space... there was the Sun off in the distance, looking normal, who was the 3rd consciousness (but like a giant silent eye, observing from from some very lofty deep billion-year old great-great-great-great-grandfather perspective, totally without any thought or emotion), in the distance, stars... and below us was The Earth, but it was not the lovely shimmering blue/white/brown/green living water paradise we know. INSTEAD IT WAS AN EMPTY SMOLDERING BLACK CINDER... "Gaia" or "Grandmother Earth Goddess" was VERY VERY VERY ANGRY with ME, as a representative of the entire Human race who had somehow caused this horrible catastrophe to happen to her beautiful precious pearl she had take so long and such care to grow. The mood was one of baleful, eternal mourning and sadness. She was as angry as it is possible to be. I was as sad as it is possible to be.. and just crying, crying for all of eternity, trying to say to Her "I'm so sorry.... I'm so sorry... I'm so sorry...."

I would have to call this under any definition a "Vision" more than a hallucination... it was like "She" had deliberately stolen my mind, seeing it was made vulnerable by the LSD, and whisked me to some distant possible future to confront me about the disaster she showed me. I don't have any other way of understanding what happened to me that night.

I didn't remember this until a couple days later... it was buried under alot of embarrassment about my brainstem's shameful lizard behaviour... then suddenly all at once the image/feelings came back to me like a recovered memory all at once, and I was utterly devastated for a LONG time till I could tell anyone else.

Not to hijack the tread... but what you you all think of that? If it's best to open a new thread, fine. Anyone ever have anything like this, either the "blackout" effect, or the "Earth-Cinder-Angry-Sad-Earth-Mother-Goddess-Spirit" vision happen to them?

The thing about my trip was, I only remember 30-1 hr of it. It consisted of a

bunch of laughing afterwards, me saying "what the fuck" laughing my ass off.

The four of us were chillin', then P goes to the restroom and gets lost, she

tells us the story and we laugh. We were all wondering where we were

although we knew very well where we were. My friend tries to throw up, I go

next to him, I'm like "crazy shit huh?" he then proceeds to say "yeah man,

just don't do anything crazy you know?" I laugh and say of course. (little did

he know what was to come.)

30 minutes from that me and my gf go to her brothers room, chilling, looking at

the bob marley posters and redlike walls, swirling. The feeling was like a body

ecstasy, felt great but then nausious at the same time. I then look at my

hand and it was melting to the music, was weird shit.

After that it had been an hour since we'd eaten the shrooms, at this point me

and my gf go back to join our two friends, they were looking at the floor. We

chill with them, I'm unsually hyper, I say "Man, I want to get naked" and

that's the last thing I remember until 6 hours later I wake up naked inside my

gfs bed cold, wet, and hands smell like shit.

As I "wake up"(I had been AWAKE the entire time). I try and grasp reality,

when I go outside I doubt that what had happened was real, there was no

way I did those things. As I walk into the other room everyone is looking at

me, with scared eyes, I then turn around and tell myself I'm dreaming, the

room is a mess, and shit is broken. I then lay down in the wet bed saying, I'll

just go to back to sleep, I'm dreaming, I then realize that I was awake.

Scared, I walk back out the room and see the three, my gf looking scared as

hell running away. my bestfriend then takes me out to talk about

whathappend I asked "is this reality" he goes "yeah man this is the real deal".

He offers me a cigarette, I say yes because I'm still doubting if I'm awake,

when I get back inside my gf runs to me with tears in her eyes saying "are

you back?" I say "yeah, I'm back", she hugs me the tightest I've ever been

hugged as I have some tears in my eyes also. There's lots more to the story,

but I feel you guys have had enough to read lmao.
 
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