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Mushroom Season 2011

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^Do you find subs deep in the pines or on the perimeter in the grasslands surrounding? I seem to find more of them just outside forested areas...? Is there a certain habit in the forests that I need to look for? Eg. In a valley, where a creek runs through???
 
I've seen a lot of different comments about habitat. Subs need dead wood to grow out of right?

So if it is on the perimeter of a forest, then it still needs to be accompanied by decaying wood...but most forest perimeters are grassy, no?

I'm spending the whole sunday trekking, getting there just after sun-up and leaving afternoon. If I find any I will be eating fresh and harmonising with nature.

The theory behind sun-up is research I have done that links Psilocybe mushrooms back to the days of when Moses led the Jews out of Egypt, where the bread, that which they called Mana, grew out of the ground. He mentions something about collecting it in the morning, and consuming it only then, for after this it will become rotten (much like mushrooms if you just leave them wet)

So yeh, gonna get there just after sun-up...and I will have another 3 sets of eyes helping me.

Also, I've realised....Our connection, to this planet, and all the knowledge she has, is through the chemical dimethyltriptamine. Everything has this chemical...most in only miniscule amounts....but it exists in everything. That is our connection. That tells us we are just like everything else natural on this planet...only we are so disconnected now that we dont see the relation anymore.
 
Dude, seriously. NN-DMT and 4-HO-DMT while related are quite different in their effects. And psilocybe mushrooms last a lot longer than one day. I don't want to get into a philosophical debate, but the "characters" you mentioned from the "holy" texts are no more real than Gandalf from Lord of the Rings. All of this shit is unrelated to mushrooms. And considering you really don't know what you're looking for, I wouldn't recommend picking and eating. :!

Post some photos of MUSHROOMS on here and talk about those.



ShroomAssassin said:
I've seen a lot of different comments about habitat. Subs need dead wood to grow out of right?

So if it is on the perimeter of a forest, then it still needs to be accompanied by decaying wood...but most forest perimeters are grassy, no?

I'm spending the whole sunday trekking, getting there just after sun-up and leaving afternoon. If I find any I will be eating fresh and harmonising with nature.

The theory behind sun-up is research I have done that links Psilocybe mushrooms back to the days of when Moses led the Jews out of Egypt, where the bread, that which they called Mana, grew out of the ground. He mentions something about collecting it in the morning, and consuming it only then, for after this it will become rotten (much like mushrooms if you just leave them wet)

So yeh, gonna get there just after sun-up...and I will have another 3 sets of eyes helping me.

Also, I've realised....Our connection, to this planet, and all the knowledge she has, is through the chemical dimethyltriptamine. Everything has this chemical...most in only miniscule amounts....but it exists in everything. That is our connection. That tells us we are just like everything else natural on this planet...only we are so disconnected now that we dont see the relation anymore.
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Can't believe i'm actually reading comments directed towards newbies regarding hunting mushrooms without someone experienced..........8o That's a brilliant way to make yourself rather sick!!!!

The amount of mushrooms that look similar to subs is ridiculous!!! All it takes is for the local council to spray an area with a green or blue herbicide and walla a mushrooms appears 'magic'. Have seen this MANY times and a newbie can easily be fooled.

My advice: Find yourself a pro and after your first hunt, you will never mistake a magic mushroom from then on.
 
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The amount of mushrooms that look similar to subs is ridiculous!!! All it takes is for the local council to spray an area with a green or blue herbicide and walla a mushrooms appears 'magic'. Have seen this MANY times and a newbie can easily be fooled.
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Just take your finds home and post some photos on the shroomery and there you go.

Safety first.
 
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Just take your finds home and post some photos on the shroomery and there you go.

Safety first.
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^this as a bare minimum

ShroomAssassin:

Many lookalikes contain compounds that will shut down your liver and kidneys over a period of days/weeks. Numerous people have died from eating the wrong mushrooms.

If you consume the wrong mushrooms, you will at best be violently ill.

Yes, some people have taught themselves and are here to tell the tail but, I strongly suggest you do not go hunting without an experienced guide.

If you want to meet your maker, you are going the right way about it.

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Mushroom poisoning (also known as mycetism) refers to harmful effects from ingestion of toxic substances present in a mushroom. These symptoms can vary from slight gastrointestinal discomfort to death. The toxins present are secondary metabolites produced in specific biochemical pathways in the fungal cells. Mushroom poisoning is usually the result of ingestion of wild mushrooms after misidentification of a toxic mushroom as an edible species. The most common reason for this misidentification is close resemblance in terms of colour and general morphology of the toxic mushrooms species with edible species. Even very experienced wild mushroom gatherers are upon rare occasion poisoned by eating toxic species, despite being well aware of the risks, through carelessness.

To prevent mushroom poisoning, mushroom gatherers need to be very familiar with the mushrooms they intend to collect as well as with any similar-looking toxic species. In addition, edibility of mushrooms may depend on methods of preparation for cooking. Collectors also need to be well aware that edibility or toxicity of some species varies with geographic location.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_poisoning

I commonly find deadly galerinas mixed in with patches of subs and many of my friends still accidentally pick these while harvesting, only to realize their mistake when they get home. They could easily be eaten by noobs on a first hunt. It's just not worth the risk and plain stupid IMO
 
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Hi Psilo

Please tell that to DrugFukkdrokstar and Drug Mentor.

I do have a fairly good idea of what I a looking for....and it seems the blueing is really the best way to tell as long as you have the other visual indentifiers...

Can you all sort out some sort of collective guide rules.....because it is seriously confusing having one Mod tell me that I should find out on my own, and another telling me I really should have a guide.....SERIOUSLY.

Honestly, I think I am within my rights to ask for help and guidance, but comments from Drug Mentor and Drugfukkdrokstar (there were others, but there post count discounts them from the advice being given by more frequenting members) made me truly consider doing it on my own, AND I STILL WILL, but YES, considering the non-actives I brought home were lookalikes AND deadly...like I said, this bullshit attitude some have here is going to get someone else killed, when really open advice and a helping hand can educate EVERYONE.

rgds
SA
 
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on a lighter note. Guess whos polishing his hunting boots atm and waiting for his mate to come pick him up to go for a hunt???

YOU GUESSED It.

ME ME ME ME ME ME.

ShroomsAsssasin: I'll upload pics when i get back :)
 
You come across as too keen and I can see your hunt for enlightenment ending in tears. I'm not the one with the bullshit attitude, I am trying to help you out. I would not have even chimed in with a comment had it not been for your statement of consuming them as you pick.

Mods are allowed to disagree on certain subjects, there is no rule stating that we have to give the same advise.

I stated that some people have taught themselves and are still with us, I just believe it is best to be shown in person for safety's sake or at least get your finds ID'd at shroomery.

I schooled up DFRS over many conversations on MSN and in person last year.

I also believe Drug Mentor is much wiser than yourself and he would have followed all due caution in teaching himself to hunt for psilocybes. I seriously doubt he would have eaten them as he picked on his first hunt...
 
@ headdah....you're cruel. =D Save some for me, even though I have no idea where you;re going....but atleast its the thought that counts. (I'll chuck a sicky now and meet ya there, hahaha...oh my stomach hurts boss)

@ Psilo...It wasn't aimed at you...but it is very confusing as you can see. The attitude I was referring to was finding them yourself. Your advice so far has been sound mate and I have absolutely the upmost respect for you. PLus your willingness to give advice is also testament to your intentions...so I was definitely not aiming it at you....and I apologise in my confused and frustrated state if it came across that way.

Also, I'm not going to just 'pick and eat'....I'm going to:

Pick, observe
bruise, observe
...continue searching....
10 mins later....check the bruising

It will also be my 5th hunt, this weekend.

Where I am going is pine forests, so I dont think local councils 'spray' so I think I can exclude that factor.

Also, being in SA, and searching South, I believe I am more likely to find subs than cubes?

Anyway, thankyou for your honest opinions, I truly appreciate them, and the clue's...as I noted you said you find Gallerina's mixed in with your actives which means I must be on the right track.

@ yagacero I'm not religious, but there is no proof of either their existence or non-existence...unlike a movie/fiction book. Appreciate what you are saying, and I am NOT suggesting they are the same, effectwise, but merely pointing out that this compound DMT has a connection to us that is mysterious and special.
 
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theres no cubes out in the wild in SA at all mate. all subs :)

and yes i will def save some for you to pick. thats if go to same spot as me :D

until then.

i will just show off with pics i will find today ;>
 
Good luck headdah and SA, may your hunts be fruitful.

SA when you look in the pine forest (I am fairly sure where you may be going), do search the perimeters as well as the forest itself, you never know if there is buried wood in the grasslands!!! Look in both open, aged forests and juvenile forests (although the young ones are difficult to walk through). I have also accidently found massive patches in the forest surrounding camping grounds, hint hint!!!!!
 
Dude....thats still a lot of forest to search through....but hint well received. Camp grounds surrounding forest, pine or eucalypt?

Cheers man.
 
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conscious11 said:
^Do you find subs deep in the pines or on the perimeter in the grasslands surrounding? I seem to find more of them just outside forested areas...? Is there a certain habit in the forests that I need to look for? Eg. In a valley, where a creek runs through???
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the reason I said 'in a certain pine forest' is because in south west W.A, there it literally one forest where the spores of subs fruit.. Ive heard even the surrounding bushland of this pine forest doesnt contain any actives but I personally havnt gone hunting yet so I couldnt really tell you 8o

I would assume a valley would be the place to look??
 
yagecero said:
Just take your finds home and post some photos on the shroomery and there you go.

Safety first.
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All this peace & love talk and then getting worked up, someone is battling their ego ;D



- Be cool DFRS and d_m =p


I +1 to not eating fresh mushrooms when you don't know what your looking for, that's called stupidity.

I checked out a small patch inner city today and the mushrooms failed to grow past a small size before moulding & decaying. ( i've been checking them weekly)

Is it better to allow them to return to their earth and spread more spores & hope they grow better in the coming weeks?
 
Haha, You're spot on...not that I am directly angry at anyone, just confused and frustrated at the mixed advice.

Yes, I am battling my ego. I am still new to the whole concept of peace and love, and not being judgemental...so forgive me please if I fail.

Drug_mentor and Drugfukkdrokstar....apologies for my above comments...I just feel that I need to learn this now, not next year, so my persistence is because of the knowledge I have, and new pieces of the puzzle I am to gain from access to this fruit....and I really dont want to kill myself in the process, nor see anyone younger and less mature do something really bad.

I dont expect anyone to understand me, or my reasons, until later this year...but come that time, I cannot help. You will need to help yourselves....and some will be beyond help I think. Have a good laugh at my expense please if nothing happens.

It does come down to self-responsibility....and here is where I have failed big time. The realisation is all this comes down to being self-responsible. With everything. So yes, self-responsibility with finding and identifying, with sharing the knowledge I have, and that you all have and with asking for help from others...maintaining self-responsibility throughout.

Shit, I need to apologise to everyone here. Sorry all. I ave been acting like a child in a candy store who can't get his own way, or get a straight answer out of the parents.

From this moment forth I will:

Treat everyone here with equal respect, ensuring all opinions are read without bias.

Hunt responsibly, be 100% certain or wait and identify @ Shroomery

Be grateful for any help offered.

I truly regret my comments directed at Drug_mentor and DFRS now...so I will remove the vitriol. I feel ashamed, somewhat.:(
 
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The particular campgrounds I refer to have eucalypts dispersed throughout the sites and surrounding the area. Sorry that is as much as i can give without giving it away, besides that would be spoiling the fun!
 
Fair enough. Thanks Psilo, Thanks Concious11.

Did anyone here know if any can be found in Adelaide suburbs? The question has been asked several times but never answered. I could take that as a no...but that wouldn't be any fun either. I remember when I was young seeing some that looked like them up northern suburbs in Winter...but I was young and the memory is a bit vague...so no definite description.
 
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