Mushroom & 4-AcO-DMT.fumarate combo. A few questions.

[Thomas Davie]

I searched. Honestly. Probably not very good

Of all the psychs I've tried (limited to 3 4-HO-DiPT.HCl, 8 4-AcO-DMT.fumarate and 100+ shroom trips), shrooms have been my favourite. 4-aco-dmt is a very close second, and 4-ho-dipt is a distant unpleasant third.

Never really had the chance to combine psychs before; but am thinking of trying a small combined dose of shrooms/4-aco.

Are the effects likely to be additive considering how closely some of the actives in mushrooms are to 4-aco-dmt

Does it matter if they are taken simultaneously or sequentially, spaced by some time?

Does it matter which one would be taken first?

I'm planning on 10 mg 4-aco-dmt and 1 gram dried cubensis.

I'm thankful for any information

Tom

 

[[éS]Infinite]

Sounds like a good experience. I don't believe there will be any synergism between the two since they are so much alike. Whether you take them both at once or space them out over time will affect the duration and the intensity of the effects. It shouldn't matter which one you take first either, unless you know one will be stronger than the other. For example, 10 mg 4-AcO-DMT would have more effects for me than 1 gram dried cubensis, so I might be inclined to take the 10 mg first, then begin consuming the gram of mushrooms when I notice I'm coming up since I might not notice a come-up on 1 gram of mushrooms.

 

[Psyentologist]

Seems like it would be a waste IMO. I have not done the combo, but my opinion is based on the fact that the two are so similar in effects.

I think it would be much more worthwhile to combine with something that is a bit different.

4-Aco-DMT + LSD or Mescaline would be more interesting.

One combo that I cannot wait to try is 4-Aco-DMT + MXE.....now that would be FUN

If you do go forward with this research, I would recommend taking them at the same time as their duration and come-up are near identical.

If I was going to do this I would make my shrooms into a tea (the only way I take em) then simply dissolve the ACO into the drink.

Either way, have fun and happy trails

 

[functor]

I've tried this once with something like 20mg of 4-Aco-DMT (it was rather old, and perhaps slightly degraded in potency) and 1-1.5 grams of _really_ mild mushrooms (2.25 grams of them was really underwhelming). I tripped hard and found the trip insightful. I couldn't distinguish the effects of the shrooms from 4-Aco, though. If you are short on both substances and want to nevertheless trip hard, this combo might work. That was actually my reason to do this. If you have enough of one or the other substance, I'm not sure this combo provides anything not achievable with using just one of these, but trying it once isn't likely to be a waste of time either. I think that taking them simultaneously is definitely the way to go.

 

[Thomas Davie]

Thanks for the replies.

I'm okay with 4-AcO-DMT up to ~27 mg fumarate salt. I've had mushrooms up to 6.5g (Cubensis).

My 4-AcO-DMT is limited (but I've ordered more), and I've recently harvested mushrooms so I can experiment.

I think I'm going to combine ~20 mg of 4-AcO and 1 g shrooms. If there is no potentiation I should be in a comfortable range.

I'll post a small trip report tomorrow,

Tom

 

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[Solipsis]

Sorry but unless it is a poem it is unintelligable to me...

anyway 4-HO-DiPT was interesting to me when ketamine was supplemented... and regarding mushrooms versus 4-AcO-DMT, there are many descriptions. For me both are deep and they both yield visions of entities but 4-AcO-DMT can more smooth yet sneaky in it's dilated build-up of effects while mushrooms (while effecting a trance state) are more pronounced in effect for me and concentrate an effect to impart on my sensitive self.