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EAGERBEEZ

EAGERBEEZ

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well i have a lot of experience with blazing as i do it every day. I have also done basically all opiate and benzo pills, and drink on a regular basis. This is all of the drug experience i have with drugs. For as long as i can remember, i have wanted to try heroin, not slam it, just smoke it or rail it. most of my friends are weed smokers and pretty heavy drinkers but thats about it. I brought up the idea of trying it to them and they told me not to and that its just an uncool thing to do. i believe this is because they arent as open to or educated about drugs as i am. i was planning on doing it alone anyway as i only enjoy drinking as a social high. anyway, my question is do u guys think i should get some other experience with harder drugs (as i have none and heroin is about as hard as hard gets) or do u think i should go for it. if so, how much should i buy to only use once. i also should note i dont plan on making this an everyday thing, i only want to do it on the rarest of occasions. it also may be important to know that i have depression and add, and am very addictive mentally but i still feel like smack is just something i HAVE to do. so what do u guys think? :?

ps. im also planning on doing shrooms acid e coke 2c ketamine and dmt this summer as long as i can track some of the more obscure ones down. thoughts on doing them would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
EAGERBEEZ
 
Right, sounds like you're setting yourself up for misery.


What other drugs should you be experienced with? Opiates, higher doses preferably.

How much do you need for one high? Assuming you have no tolerance, one glassine should be enough for two highs.


Good luck and seriously consider not doing this. At least until you have some more opiate experience.
 
Well, I don't think it would be a good idea to try heroin with your depression and addictive personality. I did exactly what you are planning on doing like not making it an everyday thing and not slamming it. Heroin was the first opiate I have ever done. Now I've been slamming it for over a year and a half with one 64 day break in rehab and my life is complete shit. Do you really want to risk it man? Heroin or opiates in general are drugs that I believe people can get addicted to them even without an addictive personality because the feelings are pure pleasure with no real negative side effects the first few times you try it. Then once you're at the point that you can't stop thinking about feeling that way, it doesn't really matter how many negative consequences are in the way because you're gonna use no matter what just to feel normal again. Its a shitty cycle that you really don't wanna step foot in, believe me it will only do bad to your life. I've never really seen any good come out of it besides pure synthetic pleasure.
 
well iv done oxy and morphine on about 10 separate occasions but didnt find any of the to provide the complete bliss and euphoria that i hear heroin gives. also if i didnt state it in my original post, i only plan on doing it once for the next few years, and also smack is VERY hard to track down in philly suburbs so i feel like keeping myself from buying more shouldnt be extremely difficult
 
Opiate pills are no less hard drugs then heroin. Heroin is diacetylmorphine, after you consume it it's metabolized into a few chemicals, but primarily morphine. Heroin on itself is not a drug, it's simply a pro-drug for morphine (mostly). In adouble blind study I read the only detectable difference between morphine and heroin was that morphine had more side effects. The only reason heroin is less safe then opiate pills is because it's made and sold illicitly so when buying it you don't know how strong it is or what it's cut with. But don't expect a high that's terribly different then the opiate pills you've done. Also heroin really isn't as hard a drug as it's made out to be.

I would consider alcohol to be a harder drug then heroin. Cocaine is leagues harder then heroin as well.

You should only have to buy one bag if you aren't planning on using regularly. It's hard for us to tell you the dose because we don't know your opiate tolerance or the purity of the dope.

How much morphine or oxy do you have to take for a solid high? Have you ever nodded off or had a strong opiate high from them?
 
If you're looking for blissful euphoria just do MDMA. There's no point in getting into Heroin, that shit can fuck up your life. Also, as far as I know, MDMA produces WAY more Euphoria then Heroin and MDMA lasts up to 6 hours instead of a quick 20 minute heroin high.
 
@psycho yea i read tht study to and found it interesting. the morphine pill i had once was quite amazing but i found oc to be a big waste of time and money because it was more expensive and disappointed the shit out of me. anyway, i also feel tht heroin kinda gets a bad rap from alot of people and dont feel like its any more mentally addicting than any other drug.

@worldwar yea i know that there are blue and white dolphins in town currently so ill just get a few rolls of them thanks for the advice

also, just to make it clear, i WILL be trying heroin within the next few years, but i am feeling like i may not be ready quite yet, i want it to be a pleasant, wonderful experience, not a night with my head stuck in the toilet spewing projectile vomit like some stories iv heard
 
^Did you take the morphine orally? I agree with you completly about oxy, it's a waste of money for me and I've never found it to be as good as many people say it is. I also agree that heroin gets an unfairly bad rep. It's a lot less addictive then some drugs, I find it less addictive then meth, cocaine, crack, benzos, and alcohol. Most people would disagree with me about the alcohol and benzos, but that's subjective. You should be careful with it and treat it with respect, just the same as opiate pills or any other potentially addictive or dangerous drug.

MDMA is worse for you then heroin if you're going to do it. Also yeah, it does make you vomit pretty often. I threw up the first time I did heroin, it wasn't really unpleasent cause I was on heroin, and I'd done a lot of puking so puking doesn't really bother me anymore, I feel that I've kinda gotten over the negative mental effects of vomiting (on any drug or when I'm sober even). So if you really dislike vomiting you might want to wait until you have a bit of a higher tolerance (assuming your opiate tolerance is low).

You should be very careful with heroin. Another thing- oxycodone and morphine aren't "pretty much all opiate pills", there's plenty of other ones, some of them might be better then heroin (oxymorphone perhaps).
 
EAGERBEEZ said:
well iv done oxy and morphine on about 10 separate occasions but didnt find any of the to provide the complete bliss and euphoria that i hear heroin gives. also if i didnt state it in my original post, i only plan on doing it once for the next few years, and also smack is VERY hard to track down in philly suburbs so i feel like keeping myself from buying more shouldnt be extremely difficult
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Hard to find H in philly? 8)
 
true psycho i did phrase that rather poorly, i agree completely with everything u just said basically and im no stranger to puking either as it is hard for me to drink with out just drinking till either all the alcohol is gone, i start puking, or i pass or black out. but yea i have 0 opiate tolerance currently and think i may save heroin for the last week of summer.

and fm, i live like 30 mins outside of philly and im not exactly down to drive up to kensington or fishtown and get shot/stabbed/kidnapped although i probably will end up having to go there to score when i eventally decide to cop haha
 
EAGERBEEZ said:
@psycho yea i read tht study to and found it interesting. the morphine pill i had once was quite amazing but i found oc to be a big waste of time and money because it was more expensive and disappointed the shit out of me. anyway, i also feel tht heroin kinda gets a bad rap from alot of people and dont feel like its any more mentally addicting than any other drug.

@worldwar yea i know that there are blue and white dolphins in town currently so ill just get a few rolls of them thanks for the advice

also, just to make it clear, i WILL be trying heroin within the next few years, but i am feeling like i may not be ready quite yet, i want it to be a pleasant, wonderful experience, not a night with my head stuck in the toilet spewing projectile vomit like some stories iv heard
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Good, Blue Dolphins have a good reputaion for being clean. Just pray to god that it's not a replica =D
 
haha yea kensington is full of dope boys, theres like 10 of em on every corner

and yea iv read great things about blue dolphins in my area on pillreports so ill probly kick off summer with my first ever roll rather than getting smacked out
 
EAGERBEEZ said:
haha yea kensington is full of dope boys, theres like 10 of em on every corner

and yea iv read great things about blue dolphins in my area on pillreports so ill probly kick off summer with my first ever roll rather than getting smacked out
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That's probably a better choice then doing H, you body will thank you =P
 
The problem with heroin is you never know what you're getting because any dumbass will cut it with just about anything. Stick to prescription drugs because they are pure. I had a junkie friend with super massive opiate tolerance and he booted half a packet of heroin while driving. If the guy with him had not called 911 my friend would not have woken in the hospital alive.
 
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