MPTP/ MPP+ Incident Reports

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Hello all, thanks for clicking. Bit of a dilemma maybe some of you can help me out on. I have a friend who has chronic pain issues, and as many may know it is damn near impossible to find chronic pain management these days. So I didn't blame him when he went to the street and bought a handful of oxycodone pills through a friend of a friend of an old contact of an acquaintance (you get the idea). He had been taking them for a few days when his neuroticism finally kicked in and he went on the internet to look for problems as he is wont to do. Finding that pills can easily be pressed, and being a chemistry student, he has fixated on the idea that he somehow may have been ingesting MPTP as the pills could be knock-offs made of desmethylprodine instead of oxycodone. My friend...he's an anxious guy. But i figured id ask for him, you know...


To the point: I know there were a slew of cases of MPP+ induced parkinsons in the late seventies and mid eighties - have there been any cases since? I cant find anything on the internet in the way of case reports - but i imagine his anxiety isnt totally unfounded. Sloppy desmethylprodine synthesis in china, pressed into an oxy lookin thing with some blue dye, boom parkinsons in a pill. Does this happen?

Thank u kindly for reading and in advance for responses
 
Ask yourself what's more likely: that he took some common opiate painkillers, or that he took an extremely rare substance which, from what I can tell on Wikipedia, has only afflicted seven people (when some chemistry student synthesized and self-injected in the mid-70's, and the "frozen addicts" case in 1982) :\
 
Frozenaddict said:
Hello all, thanks for clicking. Bit of a dilemma maybe some of you can help me out on. I have a friend who has chronic pain issues, and as many may know it is damn near impossible to find chronic pain management these days. So I didn't blame him when he went to the street and bought a handful of oxycodone pills through a friend of a friend of an old contact of an acquaintance (you get the idea). He had been taking them for a few days when his neuroticism finally kicked in and he went on the internet to look for problems as he is wont to do. Finding that pills can easily be pressed, and being a chemistry student, he has fixated on the idea that he somehow may have been ingesting MPTP as the pills could be knock-offs made of desmethylprodine instead of oxycodone. My friend...he's an anxious guy. But i figured id ask for him, you know...


To the point: I know there were a slew of cases of MPP+ induced parkinsons in the late seventies and mid eighties - have there been any cases since? I cant find anything on the internet in the way of case reports - but i imagine his anxiety isnt totally unfounded. Sloppy desmethylprodine synthesis in china, pressed into an oxy lookin thing with some blue dye, boom parkinsons in a pill. Does this happen?

Thank u kindly for reading and in advance for responses
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It's virtually unheard of nowadays, but not impossible. Still though, I highly doubt he unwittingly consumed the neurotoxin in question.

And I'm sorry in advance for being an ass, but like the above BLer stated, this forum subsection is for 'Drugs in the Media.' Therefore, I suggest you post this query in the appropriate subsection if the moderators don't move it for ya.

It's very admirable (and genuinely friendly) of you to help out your buddy like this.

I hope you have a wonderful day :)
 
I very much appreciate all of your responses, I linked this page to my friend. He's still anxious but he's taking the pills now - its good to see him out of pain for a change.

I guess I have misinterpreted the title of this forum sector, figuring that incident reports would consitute 'media' - not in the pop culture sense of the word, but in the academic sense (such as scientific journal publications). 8) I figured this would be an appropriate place to put this for that reason, but I don't want to be a force of entropy here, especially considering how polite the community has been. Better section ideas, if only for archiving purposes?

Thanks :)
 
Ah I see, this would be better off under general discussion. How do I move it? Doesn't seem to be under thread tools or administrative tabs?
 
Yeah, what really peeked my interest was when I did a little research of my own and found a site that tests pills anonymously with a gc/ms. If I'm correct, we cannot post any links here, but the site is very easy to find if one googles 'pill testing' or something like it. I believe it was founded by erowid to help in harm reduction concerning ecstacy, but they will test anything.

Anyway, i noticed that some pills DO TEST POSITIVE FOR DESMETHYLPRODINE. And where there is desmethylprodine....
 
Frozenaddict said:
Yeah, what really peeked my interest was when I did a little research of my own and found a site that tests pills anonymously with a gc/ms. If I'm correct, we cannot post any links here, but the site is very easy to find if one googles 'pill testing' or something like it. I believe it was founded by erowid to help in harm reduction concerning ecstacy, but they will test anything.

Anyway, i noticed that some pills DO TEST POSITIVE FOR DESMETHYLPRODINE. And where there is desmethylprodine....
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I know the site you speak of - didn't take long to find a very recent entry containing Desmethylprodine. Unsettling to say the least.
 
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