Kul69 said:
Sorry my friend but the world is a-changing, our generation has more and more college graduates, it's not like it used to be where college was for the ultra rich and guaranteed you some fancy job somewhere, it's more of a requirment now like a high school diploma used to be.
Sure, soft toilet paper isn't required to live. Neither is a car. You also don't need a TV, or a computer, or anything other than oxygen, shelter, water, and food. However, some of us like to raise above the level of animals and have things other than the basic neccesities.
Well aint we been over THIS one before (the "need' for a college diploma, or that its necessary to have one to get any type of decent job nowadays)
No. it really aint. you really dont need one. to make not even a DECENT but VERY GOOD LIVING. you need DETERMINATION and INTELLIGENCE but not a degree.
Have you ever heard of
Construction
Welding
Roofing
Tattoo Artist
Custom Auto
Airbrushing
to name a few?
And before you go off on "well why would you bust your ass doing physical labor bla bla bla" some people actually PREFER to do that, and to sit in a office all day making big degree money is their idea of eternal torture in hell.
My welding instructor made 55 dollars an hour as his normal hourly rate when he was working on a project. overtime? DOUBLE TIME AND A HALF.
Thats lets see...ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN DOLLARS AN HOUR dawg.
And thats a highschool dropout right there.
i know you seen PIMP MY RIDE...well thats just one shop that can get away with those huge pricetags cuz of their fame...but let me tell you custom auto anything dont come cheap anywhere, famous shop or not.
Wanna start your own business?
fuck a business degree you need a brain and a money savy mind that is all.
My cousin is 45. he has owned his own auto body shop in the ghetto (so it aint like hes coppin high fees for his work, just normal amounts) for i dont KNOW how long. before i was born. always been there.
He owns the shop and the land its on. he gets cars from the salvage yard that only had the body fucked up, and redoes them. paint job here un-denting there, replace a bumper here,etc and then sells the cars. as well as having a mechanic working there for him.
he gets money and his name is known there.
he rents out the land behind the shop to some people who put a trailer on it and so he aint only earning from his work with the shop but also collecting rent every month from these cats.
He just does his thing and makes his money. he bought a nice little house in cash. living room, bedroom, bathroom, kitchen/dining room, all he needs he lives alone. put a deck outside. got a realllly nice jacuzzi put in. made a addition to the house. got a new NICE-ASS 8-person boat that i just went out on with him today. he lives good. got a couple real nice bikes. harleys and shit. a couple dirtbikes and a moped.
Basically, he dont do big spending. he dont wanna Lexus so he aint got one. but whatever he wants, there is always the money there. if he feels like taking the bike out to Cali and staying for a month he can just go do it. if he wants a new truck he can buy it. but he dont live fancy, out of choice not necessity.
high school dropout BTW.
Everybody has their own place and i heard it a hundred times from peope like you how you HAVE to have a degree to get ANYWHERE in life and bla bla bla and you can say it all you want cuz i know firsthand its bullshit.
ive found that the attitude you (not you personally just peopel in general)have towards all that comes from your financial class and just what you been told. people who get told that believe it and that is what they see. and to yall, you do believe that its necessary and it fulfills itself cuz yalls idea of a comfortable life is actually a very very nice life that you dont even know how well off you really are. reality check. DSL is not a necessary part of life, aint default, aint standard model. remodeled kitchen aint default. one car for each person in teh family aint default. 2 extra bedrooms. 2 car garage. 4 TV's in the house. 3 DVD players. what!?
YEA it may be "average" or common. but only cuz in your set yall are earning so much. people think 75000 a year salary is "middle class"? get the hell out. thats some upper class shit right there. and then you got the group who makes a quarter mil a year and thats just considered average income to them. regular middle class american two kids and a dog life. but it aint. the idea of wealth is so out of proportion these days.
all im going off about is that in YOUR world to live like you lived your whole life i guess it is necessary to have that degree so you can get some high paying job. so you remain stable in the class youre used to.
now as far as what i said earlier goes,
you can be like, oh well, you know, how is he supposed to go invest in something or make his own business when hes living on minimun wage? well how the hell is somebody supposed to pay for college living on min. wage either. and that is TWO TO FOUR years of not working or earning in that time or at best working part time which is enough to fund your partying and cigarettes and textbook costs.
you start from the ground up. maybe youre good at art, you bring your art into restaurants , libraries, etc, bodegas, etc, you know those places that have murals inside. want someone to paint? heres my nuimber if you ever wannt give me a call. far shot but i seen it right here people get jobs like that.
maybe youre good at hustlin, get a 100 pack of soda at 50 cents a pop at one of them discount bulk-buying stores (BJs sams club etc) and stand in the park on a hot day sellin them for a buck each. oh well fifty bucks profit, well you know what, thats about the same amount you would make working a 8-dollar an hour job for 8 hours a day (after taxes.)
you have your hustle, you do what you can to get up some loot.
some people would rather take their own path, feel a little burn doin it, and cut out their own way. no not to say, "wow im cool i made it at 19." NO. for YOURSELF. to be out there living your life and really making your own way and know that whatever comes your way you are gonna find out a way to handle that.
some of the shit you said didnt make sense at all like i dont even understand what you were getting at and im sensing a little anger there homie. dont know why you sound so heated and tryina take jabs at me but whatever.
what i got from thisass is that
everybodys priorities are different, for example
apparently to you money is the most important and living on high standards and having a very comfortable life
and to me being happy and being my own boss is the most important. mony dont make me happy. all it does is make life easier. what makes me happy is succeeding at what i choose to do whether or not anybody else agrees with that
I admite there is 2 sides to it, the side of regular thinking where you "need" things to get certain places, and if you believe that it becomes true, but i am also pointing out that theres so many other options that you compleyel discredit.
So let people live how they want dont be talking about you can and cant do this, cuz you really dont know. all you know is what you know from YOUR life, but theres about 5,999,999,999 other people on this planet that you DONT know their lives.
so remember that when you go around talking like you know all there is to getting by in this world.
BTW its still cracking me up that you think using soft toliet paper distinguishes you as above the level of an animal. OH THE HORROR! BULK PACKAGES OF ONE-PLY!! YOU UNCIVILIZED BEAST OUT!!OUT!!OUT OF MY HOUSE BEFORE YOU GET SHIT STAINS ON THE CARPET!!
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Aight im outta here with this
i really dont want to push this cats post off topic too much more. cuz right now its pretty defendable, we are discussing how realistic all this shit is, but if it goes any farther into a back and forth between me and somebody its rude and a lil on the thread hijacking side if you ask me.
so thats my word, yall carry on.
