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Motivation and losing weight

haha! -Thoth, i know you aint cause i wasn't at school with you, but your post could have soooo easily been referring to me! it does work, but will also fuck you up. moderation in all things methinks.

as for me, the only diet i need these days is a liver cleansing diet!
 
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Shnouzerpuff said:

And dont go blaming things like your starsign for skipping out on training, thats just a pissweak excuse if I have ever heard one :)

I know, it was meant to be tongue in cheek...ignore the star sign part but the rest of it's true, I DO have the attention span of an ADD child etc etc....

To all the people who have posted very helpful stuff, thanks heaps! :) It's not that I don't know how to lose weight...I mean it's very simple, and once I start I find it comes off pretty quickly...the problem is that once I've gotten stuck into it for a couple of months I get complacent and lazy...

There have been some very helpful suggestions in here for maintaining motivation though...I really like the idea of taking photos at various stages to SEE the difference. Anyways, I'll let y'all know how it goes...I'm going to see a personal trainer tonight and I'm starting yoga next week so I can get my general fitness level up enough to get into some martial arts...hopefully this time next year I should need to buy lots of new clothes :D

(Oh, and to Trillian...20 kilos IS a lot of weight, but I really do need to lose it. I'm somewhere in between 100-110kgs at the moment, and not only is it not really the best look, but I'm not as fit as I should be either because of it...)

Thanks all!

--Raz-- :D
 
Raz I know where you're coming from with the attention span of a ADD child. ;)

I couldn't tell you how many times over the years my weight has gone up and down like a yo yo, sometimes I've put on 10kgs in 3 months, and other times I've lost as much as 12kgs in 2 months.

The time I lost 12kgs in 2 months was when I was single, and towards the end of my goal I was getting a lot more attention, wanted and unwanted attention. The scary part about that was how it took over my life. I would wake up thinking about what I'd eat, and how many points that would cost me, I'd do my shopping thinking about how many points it would all cost me, then I'd come home and eat my dinner. Most days I'd have to go for a brisk long walk, and then I'd come home and think about what I'd eat for the next day. Some weeks when I'd go to weigh in I'd either be really happy, or a couple of times I'd be really upset because I'd put on something like 0.8kgs, which is really nothing, but still it was a let down. After I'd lost the 12kgs my cheeks were sunken in, and after a couple of people told me "you look good, but I think you need to put on a couple of kilo's...", I decided to do that, and I became happy with how I looked.

I guess though all throughout my teenage years I've lost and put on weight again like a yoyo. At the moment I'm starting to lose weight again. Before I went away I was at the worst I've ever been, and really I'm quite disgusted with myself for getting back to that stage, but it was creeping up on me for quite some time, I knew it was happening, but i guess sometimes you've just got to take a look in the mirror and wake up.

Anyway what I'd like to know is how the hell do you keep the weight off once you've lost it? Also how do you lose weight without letting the whole thing consume your lifestyle. How do you manage to do this without beating yourself up when you stuff yourself up in the slightest? I'm sure the mindset I've had with it isn't healthy at all.
 
^^^^

This sounds like a little thing, but it makes so much of a difference...

When I started going to gym the kilos just dropped off like crazy...then, as happens, I plateaued, and sometimes found that despite my best efforts I'd actually PUT ON half a kilo over the course of a day or two..this is SO DEPRESSING when you're focussed on losing weight.

So my best friend told me to stop weighing myself every day and only do it once a week or even better once a fortnight. This worked a treat. The reason is that your weight is constantly fluctuating to a minor degree...how much fluids you've drunk, how much muscle you've put on, that kind of thing. It's too easy to get hung up about it when you take notice of every tiny deviation, and it's too easy to lose sight of the bigger picture. So yeah, only weigh infrequently...and take a lot of notice of visual changes, like when you can feel bones that you couldn't before, notice more definition in your jawline, that kind of thing.
 
Or instead of weighing yourself, take measurements of yourself chest, waist, hip, leg, arm you get the idea. Use static points like freckles or moles to make sure you're measuring at same point.

I've recently started at the gym again (a commitment me and my boy have made to each other while we're apart) and while the kilo's aren't falling off so quickly the inches/cm's definetly are.

Also find those old favorite pieces of clothing that you no longer fit into. Try it on every week or two, so you can see how much closer you are to what you used to look like.

The way i've found to keep the weight off (well except the last 6 months when i was working 4 jobs and everything slipped) is to make permanent changes in my lifestyle, from always getting off the train a stop early, never using full fat milk to even changing the drinks i drink when i'm out G&T's instead of black russians.

While the permanent changes suk, its amazing how after a couple of months going back to your old habits just feels so wrong (i feel ill now if i eat really fatty food or full fat milk)
 
if you are actually serious about it, i suggest buying the spartan health regime.
It is kinda not convential thinking but totaly on the money.
I'm usually pretty harsh when it comes to things self-inflicted, and generally with everything it depends on how bad you want something. If you are THAT unhappy with how you are, you would do something about it. I don't suggest going to a personal trainer they genrally tell you the wrong things. Try eating 40% of your food fruit and vegies and get off your ass and move!! Go for a walk, jog run, whatever. You feel better afterwoods.
Motovation is the hardest thing, you just gotta set yourself realistic goals.
Theres no point losing 20 kilo's then 2, or 10 years later putting them back on. You gotta change your mental and phisical self
 
Thats very true

The motivation that Ive had so far came from alot of incidients that became deep seeded in me and were making me really depressed... I had one of those "nah fuck this shit" moments and its been my motivation ever since.

Plus if u think its going to be short term, then your results will only be short term.. Achieving good health means u have to make long term goals and stick to them.. probably why its not such a good idea to go hard because then u get a negative vibe to exercise and eating right

I hope its all going well... get your ass out of the steam room lol.. thats where i spent most of my time when i started going to the gym.

;) (well fuck me thats 800 posts #36 post whore for month of may)
 
I've basically maintained the same weight and body shape since i was 16, even when i was running every day and doing city to surfs and regional cross countries. I mean i "felt" healthier, and had a greater level of fitness, but you wouldn't know it just by looking at me.
 
Weight Watchers, No, No No!

They are truely only about weight loss, not tone or anything. When I was about 12/13 I was quite a heffa (weighing bout 100kgs) and I joined. I have always been into swimming (at that point anyway) and it was a daily routine. I followed their instructions, after about 2-3 wks,continuely weighing me, after it i weighed more, and I was told i mustnt have been following their instructions. Being so young i got rather upset and ran out, but, got home and my mother measured with (with tape) and I had lost some, not greatly, but something.

Muscle weighs more than fat, this is something weight watchers does not consider.

ok... im done :)
 
ok this is how i'm doing it

Right first of all get to a doctor and make sure it's not hormonal, if it is hormonal you'll be wetting yourself cause they'll fix it and it will start to drip off.

If you want an extra boost for the hormonal treatment or just want an extra boost get Xenical AND Reductil prescribed for you (they're around $150 per month each tho)

Xenical stops you absorbing the fat you eat so you rapidly have to change your eating habits (otherwise suffer nasty side effects - put it this way if you don't absorb the fat where do you think it goes?) and you can lose 5-10kg in the first month and then prolly 1-2 kilo a month after that (you really only need to be on it for 3 months max because by then you have been forced to change your eating patterns)

Reductil... I'm not sure exactly how this one works I know it suppresses your appetite (to a stupid extent - i wasn't hungry at all like i'd have an apple for dinner at 6pm and be full til morning) and boosts your metabolism I'm not sure of the expected weight loss on this one but some research should find it out for you.

Now most doctors won't prescribe you both so you may have to be crafty.

The motivation comes from seeing yourself lose weight quickly, once you lose a few kilos you really want to get out there and tone up, you feel better etc.

I got diagnosed with hormone problems last year. I lost 10 kg just from getting that fixed, due to family crap lately (since march) i've been comfort eating and basically stayed the same rate and not lost at all so I'm pulling myself together and hitting my body with both barrels to see what we can do before august. I'd like to drop 10-15 kgs the doctor says i only need to drop 10 and that 15 may be a little too much.

My motivation is the fact that I know I can do it, that I want to get off that freaking plane in melbourne and have everyone going WTF where the hell did the rest of you go?

Will I succeed who knows, tomorrow the shit might hit the fan and i'll be down in the dumps again about my sister and turn to food.

I also go to pilates - it's great exercise and you don't really feel like you're doing much but it tones well and it's mad fun. Start walking, or go swimming or to the gym but yeah... my best motivation was losing a few kgs and seeing my clothes not fitting anymore.
 
KiTTyLiCiOuS said:
Weight Watchers, No, No No!

Muscle weighs more than fat, this is something weight watchers does not consider.

ok... im done :)

Sorry, but they actually DO take this into account now. You have to take measurements as well as get weighed, and physical exercise is heavily encouraged. How long since you last went?
 
Doing pump classes 2 -3 times a week for 3 months did it for me. I love spending time on the treadmill + turning my discman right up but never got the results i wanted from it. Bacause the classes make you work hard for the whole session and you're pushed harder than you'd normally push yourself at the gym (with the potential of public humiliation if you pike out!!) you tend to work harder and see the results quickly by actually getting toned too.

The the thing i don't like about pump is the incredibly painful music :p. but the results are worth it..

..oh and it's a great perve... not that i do that of course!! ;)
 
Raz, let us know how you're going... I lost 4 kg in 5 days and i'm fucking laughing it up. Yey for meds! Yey for pilates! Yey me!
 
^^^ Darling, i don't want to burst your bubble, but don't you think alot of that has to do with lost fluids? I mean 4 kilo in 5 days? i lost 4 kilos after i came down with a virus and that was in 2 days.. i never put it back on but i know i was heaving shit loads of water from my body and my clothes were still tight on me.

I mean if it's not from lost fluids Kitty then i want what your having!!!!

I've currently lost 11kgs.. woohoo. I bought myself some new gym clothes, i'm a whore to Adidas and nike now. And thanks for all the talk about measurements, i'm gunna have to nag my gym instructor to take my measurements.

Does anyone know how i can lose my gut?? I've lost tons of my legs/arse/back/even boobs but i still have my stomach!! :( HELP!!
 
keep going with the exercise
although thats weird - women tend to store excess fat on their hips and their ass.
Its usually the guys who use tummies for fat storage
 
Riot Grrrl said:
Does anyone know how i can lose my gut?? I've lost tons of my legs/arse/back/even boobs but i still have my stomach!! :( HELP!!

Wish I knew the answer too. I'd be just about skin and bone on my arms, chest and legs ... but my stomach and arse would still be there. Obviously there was some loss because the clothes would fit more easily, but it still looked like it was all there.

Perscription appetite suppressants make me too anxious and jaw tension nowadays. Keeping a program going for a few months now would make irritable. I've been down the path before and had great results, but it isn't the marvellous thing that I would have hoped. Meridia (sp?), although very controversial looks a better medical way for getting perminent results.
 
Riot Grrrl said:
^^^ Darling, i don't want to burst your bubble, but don't you think alot of that has to do with lost fluids? I mean 4 kilo in 5 days? i lost 4 kilos after i came down with a virus and that was in 2 days.. i never put it back on but i know i was heaving shit loads of water from my body and my clothes were still tight on me.

I mean if it's not from lost fluids Kitty then i want what your having!!!!

Look a few posts up and see what I'm on. (Xenical and Reductil)

Part of my hormone fixing medication is a diuretic that has the side effect of kicking in the bodies natural progesterone rhythms in some women (spiractin), i've been on it for a year so fluids... not bloody likely.

Xenical I've been on two weeks now and reductil a week. I highly recommend, although the doctors probably don't.

Raving Loony - were the appetite suppressants you were on before duromine? It contains some stupid amount of phets and i'm not allowed to be prescribed it due to not sleeping. (so if it was that, no wonder it made you edgy).

I really do put high value on the road I'm going down, we'll see in a couple of months but so far results have been promising.
 
I dont get weight... seriously I dont get it.

I was going to the gym and eating right for about 6 months and was keeping my weight at good level for me.

I have quit my gym and am studying atm.. also cant afford gym atm.. I havent done any exercise for like a month and ive been eating like KFC every day... My weight has not moved. It makes no fucking sense... I havent lost alot of muscle tone because I did mainly cardio etc at the gym... hmmm...

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^^^ ditto Backo
Except my situation is a little in reverse. I finally start to cut out all the junk food i ate (which is practically the only thing i ate) and eat very healthily, and I put on weight :( :( :(

I dont understand it all...
 
^^^I will put on weight if I got out and have sushi for dinner
but I will not put on anything if i have a KFC 3 piece feed
 
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