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Most unaccepted drug to use among other drug users

Meth and heroin are about equal around here. Crack is bad too.

Coke, which is the same drug, is popular though, and parents have no problem prescribing their kids amphetamine based ADD pills.

Hypocrites..
 
zophen said:
I.V methamp.~ horror show in the end
I'm not sure how to feel seeing that my drug of choice and primary method of administration seem to be the unnacepted all-stars. Guess I might as well attempt to defend the chemical anti-christ and its pointy and even less acceptable counterpart.

realm said:
^But injecting a drug seems alot more self-destructive. Smoking/snorting may cause harm to your body but in my eyes injecting is like cutting yourself. Cutting yourself is not cool IMO. I understand it's just another method of administration but it causes noticeable physical harm to your body. If i smoke or sniff some people would never know you do drugs. Injecting leaves scars, marks, and so on.
I understand where you're coming from; but many of your points are somewhat bogus. For starters, I'm willing to wager that I've got more scar tissue in my nose than my arms. Also, a proper, sterile, injection...performed by an experienced IV user is nothing like cutting yourself. I do have to concede that IV use is more prone to cross the line and become an act of masochism. But no one would call a nurse or doctor a sadist for IVing patients with drugs that could be administered orally. I can't see how you could say someone is a masochist because they choose to administer their drugs via IV even if another method is available. Also, when you use via IV, the harmful substance bypasses all the other organs it would normally have to be absorbed through...thereby saving your lungs, throat, mouth, sinuses, etc significant tissue damage. I've seen just as many, if not more people with fucked up faces, teeth, lips, skin, sores, etc that smoked their meth than people who shot their shards.

*Edit* Not sure if I missed the key word of "seems" because I was baked or if you added it after I posted my response...either way, I would be a moron to disagree...yes IV undoubtedly seems like the most destructive MOA.

AuraithX said:
^ Injected drugs are also more addicting than their smoked/snorted counterparts.
Actually, I've read reports listing smoked meth and smoked crack as being more addictive (by a tiny margin) than IVed meth or IVed cocaine....though for some reason this was only true for the stims...IVed heroin was still listed as more addictive than any other MOA for H. My personal experience was that IV is not neccessarily more addictive than smoking but addictive in a fairly different way. It's too hard for me to describe...but IV didn't have the compulsive perpetual redosing (ex: smoking it till it's gone) like smoking was...but when the craving did hit you, fighting it was like trying to climb a cliff while tied to a volkswagen...
 
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I don't think the drug matters as much as the MOA does..anything IV'd would probably put a frown on most peoples face.
 
Sandbag said:
Actually, I've read reports listing smoked meth and smoked crack as being more addictive (by a tiny margin) than IVed meth or IVed cocaine....though for some reason this was only true for the stims...IVed heroin was still listed as more addictive than any other MOA for H. My personal experience was that IV is not neccessarily more addictive than smoking but addictive in a fairly different way. It's too hard for me to describe...but IV didn't have the compulsive perpetual redosing (ex: smoking it till it's gone) like smoking was...but when the craving did hit you, fighting it was like trying to climb a cliff while tied to a volkswagen...

Interesting you say that. I was recently reflecting on my years of meth abuse, and was thinking about how worse off all of my smoking friends were than my friends who ingested through some other method, including IV. I almost switched from smoking to IVing just to keep the craving at a minimum for my extreme addiction at that point. BTW, a "minimum craving" for me back then was still pretty massive...
 
AuraithX said:
^ Injected drugs are also more addicting than their smoked/snorted counterparts.

yea you do get hooked easier physically, but i know plenty of ppl that smoke crack that are way out of hand more than i ever have...i'v seen them own homes, wife, kids, jet skis whatever and lost everything in less than a year!

And to realm, about it's more noticable and it's like "cutting".... take one look at me and you'd never known i was a junky I hide it very well:D . It just all depends on how much you care, and i can't let everyone i know, know that i do bang shit.
But it is the most lookd down on, i think it's stupid.......Anyone that does oxy's (which are more addictive than heroin, at high amts, b/c of everything else that is in them) and looks down on someone who snorts or shoots heroin is a hypocrite imo
 
LeadSingerDisorder said:
I don't think the drug matters as much as the MOA does..anything IV'd would probably put a frown on most peoples face.

The thing that scares some people about IV'ing substances is that the body has little if any defense mechanism when one doses too much.

If you drink too much alcohol you might puke.
If you take a huge bong rip you might cough.
If you snort too fat a line you may sneeze it out or in the case of ketamine your sinus might expand to block further insufflation.
 
for me and mine, its all about harm reduction. it would be more unacceptable to eat too many vicodins (3+ grams APAP) than it would if you injected crack using asorbic (sp?) acid, sterile needles, etc. - basically, drug use has some inevitable consequences but none should be unnecessary
 
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