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Most spiritual and powerful legal Tryptamime RC?

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The idea of spirituality and psychedelics is not something I subscribe to. That being said my favorite "legal" tryptamines:
1. DiPT
2. 4-HO-DET
3. 4-HO-MET
4. DPT
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5. 4-ACO-DMT (I actually don't like this stuff that much 4-HO-DMT is 10000X10^1000000000000 better)
 
4-OH-MET is, imo, wonderful material. I love the 2Cs, and I think that 2C-D in particular is a very good substance, but I don't think I can recall anything taking me further than 20mg of metocin. My first experience with the drug was incredibly powerful, and for me, it's a lot less hard work than mushrooms are. It also has never given me any gastrointestinal or bodily discomfort, something I can't say about the 2Cs.
 
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5-MeO-DMT

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I'd say you're right to be honest, it's just that 5-MeO-DMT is so different than almost any other psychedelic. I didn't even consider it (and haven't used it in maybe seven years). I suspect part of this quality might owe to it having by far the highest ratio of 5HT1a:5HT2a affinity of around six popular psychedelics I've seen the figures for-- if the figures can be trusted (DPT was the second highest in this regard, LSD had about an even balance, and 2C-E was the highest of those listed for 2a). There's very little cognitive/analytical content at all with 5-MeO-DMT in my experience, and it's almost always the same experience: straight to ego vaporization. But yes, in terms of a pure shock to the head 5-MeO-DMT may be the strongest of all serotonergic psychedelics. It's the closest thing to what I imagine dying is like.
 
2Cs have hit me harder than the tryptamines I tried (cept mushies at times), in my limited experience. Tryptamines have mostly always been nice enough to me. Easier on me. 4-AcO-DMT feels loving. So far. Happy. 4-HO-DET a little rough around the edges but there is still a nice center to it. Something about tryptamines just feel a lot more at home with me. Phens mean business. They are also much harder on my body, and usually feel like shit or like I'm in danger of some kind of cardio issue... And perhaps this sparks certain spiritual experiences. But I just remember them hitting me there more.

But I feel wrong saying "more spiritual". I'd like to take 60 mg of 4-AcO-DMT :) or more. The phens I took have all been huge dosages that are giving me these memories. I never had a scale back then, messing with 2C-E and D, and 25D I was rather idiotic and thought I could handle 2.4 mg off the bat... thought I still wouldn't consider that one so "spiritual"... But I am... And used it.

DOC gave me one very powerful experience, when I let it... But I was a younger body then. That was one of the first times I felt without a doubt "spirits" around me. Other times I have been suspicious... But this was insane, the feeling. I also felt rather "psycho" at times. Cracked.

I would choose 4-AcO-DMT. It was a great experience, my one time really going into it. Saw some white light. Love.

There are many aspects of spirit. Different things might be used at different times. Sometimes this drug that drug.. sometimes its an opiate and not a psychedelic. Sometimes its a cigarette. Sometimes not drug. Sometimes music. Sometimes Christmas.
 
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DPT is definitely the most powerful tryptamine I have tried, aside from DMT and it's 5-MeO counterpart. It's very pushy though, and sometimes "dark". I have had some spiritual experiences with it, but IME it's a very difficult drug to "direct". You may approach it expecting something spiritual and end up getting something very different. It's one of those substances that is going to show you who's in charge, and it will take you where IT wants to go.

My favorite substituted tryptamine to date is 4-HO-MiPT. My experiences with it have been spiritual and consistently positive and rewarding. 30 mg IM was particularly intense, but still manageable and was one of my most memorable psychedelic experiences.

If you are looking to dabble in the 2C's, I would suggest 2C-E, 2-CT-2, or 2C-P. My personal favorite is 2C-P, although it has a very long duration.
 
Hello.

This stays into the realm of being a "what should I take" thread and overlaps with at least one other thread which has been link here so I've closed it. I suggest having a read of TIHKaL and seeing what catches your interest, then asking about a few specific ones.
 
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