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Most powerful high?

camjua said:
This^^ i could never see myself enjoying a psychedelic. I hate them. Absolutely miserable experience every time. Meth wins in my book. It sucks I cannot enjoy psychedelics.. But honestly... I think if you compared a DMT breakthrough to a massive shot of iv meth... Meth would be more euphoric. I don't see how physically DMT could cause as much euphoria. Pharmacologically it doesn't make sense. If I'm wrong I'd love to be corrected and explained to how DMT can cause as many happy chemicals releasing as Meth.
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I cant explain it pharmacologically. I've done MDMA, meth (in ecstasy pills), heroin, oxymorphone and codone, hydromorphone, coke, etc. And DMT feels better than any of them in the afterglow. Like others have said, it is similar to being teleported if you smoke enough. That feeling of being ripped from this reality so quickly alone would win it the prize IMO. And the afterglow body high, its one of pure contentment, like a bean bag chair made of money and sex... Or something. I can't describe it well enough. I've said before that its like being hugged by the universe. I guess I'll stick with that.
 
I've only done DMT once and didn't get much out of it (unfortunately, I need to return to it at some point), but some of the peaks of my strongest LSD trips have rivaled the high of meth in terms of euphoric rush (and I've snorted lots o' crank in muh day, a hurr hurr). Maybe that had to do with me laughing till I felt like I was literally going to die, though.

The problem with psychedelics like that, of course, is that they can just as easily not be fun, while methamphetamine is the drug equivalent of a greasy bag of potato chips...nothing but indulgent, delicious hedonism. bleurgh
 
camjua said:
This^^ i could never see myself enjoying a psychedelic. I hate them. Absolutely miserable experience every time. Meth wins in my book. It sucks I cannot enjoy psychedelics.. But honestly... I think if you compared a DMT breakthrough to a massive shot of iv meth... Meth would be more euphoric. I don't see how physically DMT could cause as much euphoria. Pharmacologically it doesn't make sense. If I'm wrong I'd love to be corrected and explained to how DMT can cause as many happy chemicals releasing as Meth.
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Yeah I have tried a few psychs before and I hate the loss of control over everything.. At least if I slam a .35 of old school in about 5-10 minutes I can get in the car and work my 12 hour shift and be just fine.
 
Yeah... I never got any of those feelings from psychedelics. Just anxiety.. Feeling super uncomfortable.. Like no matter how I'm laying.. Or what I'm doing its wrong.. I feel restless... Achy.. Paranoid.. Out of control... I feel like I'm out of control and I fucking hate it. Meth, h, oxymorphone etc are all pure enjoyment for me. There is no "feeling anxious" which the whole reason I even do drugs is to enjoy myself. Feeling anxious is the worst feeling for me...and nothing quite makes me panic and feel anxious like psychedelics.
 
I've been in a k hole before. I'd still argue its not as intense as meth, DMT or salvia. I've never done DMT.. But I've heard its intense.
 
Na no way. I've done heroin, oxymorphone, hydromorphone... Morphine etc. All IV.. They don't compare to the orgasmic rush ime of iv meth. Meth is crazy powerful. Plus the high lasts longer than any opioid I'm aware of. I may be wrong about that but yeah I mean.. Opioids are powerful... But meth knocks your socks off.
 
camjua said:
Na no way. I've done heroin, oxymorphone, hydromorphone... Morphine etc. All IV.. They don't compare to the orgasmic rush ime of iv meth. Meth is crazy powerful. Plus the high lasts longer than any opioid I'm aware of. I may be wrong about that but yeah I mean.. Opioids are powerful... But meth knocks your socks off.
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I agree, I don't take meth anymore, I still take a lot of heroin.. But man do I miss the rush of IV Meth.. it completely destroys that of smack.
 
most powerful? DMT forsure.

When I smoked DMT i remember thinking "this is what IV heroin must feel like". I've never fucked with needles so idk how powerful of a rush iving drugs is but fuck ive never been more fucked in such a short amount of time as when I smoked DMT. It was like getting high for the first time all over again
 
No one has slammed pure Meph?! Insta-jawdrop, pupils go from . to O in 10-15 seconds max, thizzing oh so haurd.. I don't condone it, but rush wise, nothing is stronger this day / age.
 
I'm still putting my vote in for old school ice.

But a close second for best high/rush.. Getting out of jail when you're dope sick lol
 
This is quite a hard question as it could be any drug if you take a high enough dose (kind off) but I know what you mean, so..

1. Datura
2. Salvia
 
"Powerful" is a bit of a subjective term to describe a high.

But as far as most intense goes, at least on a spiritual level, my vote would go to DMT or DPT.
 
Snorting .10g of meth,hit meth pipe(hugeee cloud),put down,catch breath,take huge 'dub'worth of crack blast and hold that shit in,on the exhale snort your snot back and get that drip.
Epic stimmy high. Bell ringer without the needle.
 
psychedelics can give the most powerful highs, because they can't kill you... you can feel some intense a f shit while tripping. you can do a thumbprint and fry your fucking brain out and live to experience it

psychedelics aside... a fat shot of IV cocaine is the most intense non-psychedelic experience i ever had. the thing is you can only do so much cocaine before you seize...

i'd assume the rush IV meth, mdma or mephedrone would be more intense than cocaine though... gosh banging mdma while on acid... it's on my bucket list
 
Depends really on the individual i believe.

in my case sublingualed MXE 200mgs+ or -

or (preferably)

K-holing usually if i do half a 0.5-1 gram of good, godly, quality, S-Ketamine in one huge line of freshly cooked powdaaaaaaa i'ts so intense in such a great way !!! Amazingly pleasant, powerful and intense K-Hole

also

5-MEO-DMT properly vaped is such a powerful psychadelic high (overhelming but in an unpleasant way, between the awefull taste and short-lived, chaotic, confusing, dissosssiative high.

5-MEO-DMT 30-40mg's sniffed is BLISS, i "break-through" ++++ it's tits up !

it often depends on an extremely high binding afffinity to the 5TH2a receptor (ie. LSD, 2C-E, 25i-nBOMe or 5-MEO-DMT.....)
 
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