but I do wonder if those who've not taken their mind apart with psychedelics really know who and what they are, or what they are capable of.
I've always found my best and most revealing personal insights to come while sober after much rumination. But psychs may have helped open the door for that sort of thing, and they can do things very quickly, and produce results in very unexpected corners of the mind. In the end I'd say we best use all the tools available to us, and never forget to treat everything you come up with with skepticism and harsh rationality. Delusion is so easy to create, and a bitch to dispel once it becomes entrenched, which is to say it may be very difficult for people who haven't tried psychs to divest themselves from their cultural narrative and the box of ideas handed down to them by society, but it is not impossible to do.
As to the topic at hand:
Tryptamines in general are more mindfucky than PEAs. The emotional content in addition to the confusion puts them at the top of my mindfuck list (don't wanna name specific chems).
Dissociatives can cause pure confusion like nothing else (many a time have I tried to login to the computer and got locked out for the night 'cause I couldn't figure out how to imput a password correctly), or simply just laying about not doing anything but feeling confused. This hasn't happened to me with the above, I've been able to type coherently after IV-ing 4-aco-dmt (well I didn't try till like 10 min in, after the come-up & tremors had subsided somewhat into the peak ), whereas reasonable doses of dissociatives can make this very difficult, even if we aren't counting the motor coordination impairment. I'm not sure I'd call them high on what I call mindfuck though, the confusion isn't the overwhelming, being pulled apart in 10 directions at once, reality breakdown of serotogenic psychs, it just feels
right to me, or at worst neutral.
