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Most mindfucky Psychedelic

I dunno if they are or should be counted as psychedelics, but deliriants fuck your mind so hard you don't make sense to anyone.
 
shrooms defff...they fuck with my head in a bad way...i get weird feelings of being an animal or being balled up in an atom at the center of the universe while everything jus overwhelms me...lsd has never got me that mind fucked even tho doing an ego-dissolving dose was deff a fucked off kinda moment..but shrooms ugh something about them is sooo alien and that's where the mindfuck is
 
My worst headfuck was on Salvia, one second I'm hitting the pipe on my girlfriends bed, the next children are laughing at me and I feel the most profound flight or just fucking flight man, those children are up to no good, but they are a green mandala and the only path is straight through the middle...oh fuck! In less than thirty seconds. Never smoked DMT, likely never will, for just that reason. Not too much, but too much too fast.
My favorite headfuck has been high dose shrooms in bed. Planing on a Shroom DXM combo, I've read good things.
Acid and 2c-x have been pretty kind to my thought processes and visual field as well. One unexpectedly high acid dose going against that where my bed was some fearsome black hole that sucked out all I ever was and left me nothing but depressed thoughtloops in a grey and black vortex.
 
Ah, yeah, Salvia. Complete headfuck. Never understood the attraction TBQH? The mental launching into . . . . well I dunno where it launches you . . . it's like you're sucking on the universe like it's a helium balloon, ending in a great big squeaky pop into nothing, and feels a bit like what it would feel like if your brain was the bath water spiralling down the plug hole, and suddenly there's a rush and a pop and you're somewhere outside your body altogether, but the physical effects are absolutely awful. Like a million fire ants burrowing under your skin while your brain turns itself inside out.

The mental effects were kind of interesting a couple of times, but I struggled to work my way half way down a small 15x tube of the stuff. Actually threw what was left after a few expeditions away, and trust me, wasting drugs is anathema to me. Nothing especially spiritual or magical or enlightening about imagining you're lying on the floor of a bus desperately trying to ring the bell so you can get off all from the comfort of your own sofa feeling like an ant ravaged sponge really, is there? :? Berzerk stuff. I've yet to meet anyone who actually liked it.
 
Just because something isn't pleasant, that doesn't mean it isn't a Manifestation of whatever is being Expressed.
In fact, I'd say those unpleasant experiences teach the most about what needs to be corrected in your Existence.
 
I've been mindfucked to the point of "bad trip" state three times: twice on Ps. cyanescens & Peganum harmala combination (ten thumbs up) and my first LSD experience (single bicycle blotter). Note that all of these trips have included copious cannabis consumption. Mushrooms on their own (have never actually done cubensis) never did me harm. It was the harmala in both instances that took everything into completely removed space. The LSD experience was about a year after the syrian rue fiascos. To be fair, I totally set myself up for it by drinking a beer and clearing a bong on the comeup, so when i finally peaked i was in no condition to be walking around outdoors. Thankfully we were able to spend a while laying on wet grass in a park after midnight so i had time to reassociate my physical body. We called a friend who picked us up and we went back to their apartment, so everything turned out fine.

2C-E, 2C-T-7, 2C-C, 2C-I have all been relatively calm seas compared to the above experiences. I discovered 2C-x a little while after the LSD trip, and had many low-to-medium dose trips with them. The controllability of dose might have played a role, but I also had many more 2C-X trials that did not involve cannabis. I have always been able to negotiate the trip-space far more easily while not stoned, and I think that weed probably contributed to the bad trips.

Marijuana on its own induces paranoia in a large number of people, so its addition to a trip is definitely going to amplify the "mind fuck" aspect due to its influences on emotions.

I am not saying that "mind fuck" is innately negative-- what I mean is that the cloudiness of cannabis causes difficulty navigating the inner recesses (or outer reaches). 2C-X can be delightfully evil in the right settings, and I feel that they might be easier to navigate than mushrooms, but then again I had the experience of mushrooms first before I tackled 2C-X.

Additionally, in my experience the 2C-X family is far more "bodily grounded" in its effect-- it draws closer attention to the skin compared to mushrooms, which lets you forget your own skin and immerse your head in a farther-reaching space. So I tend to use tryptamines with a more intellectual bias, compared to 2C-X with a more physical bias. YMMV.
 
The most mind fucky psychedelic I've ever heard of would have to be 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate. Of course I have never experienced it, and I do not ever intend to, and I highly doubt any of you would either, but this drug seems like a complete mind fuck. I mean have any of you seen "Jacobs Ladder"? or read the book "Chemical Warfare; Secrets Almost Forgotten"? Some crazy shit. I would probably try killing myself (or someone else) if I somehow ended up on that shit.

But the most mind fucky psychedelic that I've actually done would be Ketamine or, although its not really a psychedelic, Extremely high doses of Dimenhydrinate and Dextroamphetamine. That stuff makes me feel absoltely horrible. I mean its an intresting trip to take every now and again, but no other drug had me 100% convinced that I was being sucked into a wormhole that was in my bed. Now thats mind fucky.
 
Sadner said:
I dunno if they are or should be counted as psychedelics, but deliriants fuck your mind so hard you don't make sense to anyone.
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^Completely agree with this statement. Diphenhydramine and Dimenhyrdinate will fuck your mind in the ass, and there is no stopping it once it has begun. Deliriants are at their absolute worse in large social situations where normal behaviors are expected; such as school, family gatherings, and public transit systems like the bus or subway, due to the strange behaviors you exhibit, like having a full blown conversation with some one/thing thats not there. Oooh, that is some creepy shit, people will do things that there not actually even doing. Once I did 950mg of dimenhydrinate my sophmore year of Highschool, at school... That was almost traumatizing. I saw shadowy figures walk amongst the other kids in the hall, strange writing appear on the white boards while the teacher was teaching, when I would look at people they wouldn't have faces, I saw a bunch of little kids crawl through the window in the classroom, giant madagascar hissing cockroachs (my absolute worst fear) crawling all over me and my desk then coming together and forming a little black hole that I fell in for like an hour straight but then it turned out it was only 5 minutes. Yeah, the deliriants Diphenhydramine and Dimenhydrinate deffinately win this little mind fucky contest.
 
MrGrunge said:
Mushrooms, probably. Also, dissociatives can definitely fuck with your head. Everyday, mundane things suddenly become strange, confusing, and interesting on a high enough dose.
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Oh if we are counting dissociatives than I would have to say ketamine is the biggest mindfuck. When I am in a k-hole, I have no idea what's going on. Salvia is also just as bad as ketamine if not worse, I am just not even sure if saliva counts as dissociative.

Otherwise Id say shrooms/DMT (to me they are very similar).
 
An eighth of very potent mushrooms eaten with ground harmala seeds was extremely "mindfucky" IME. The bongloads during that trip made it all the more intense. Gave me a sense of what being dead was like.
 
D n A said:
Mushrooms = very mindfucky. Especially when you smoke weed or do dissociatives while on them.. weird shit happens, yo.
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I second that. First time I ate mushrooms, at the peak of my trip, I ended up buying some kush just to see how my trip would turn around. I remember sitting on the couch and literally thinking if I was dead and if God was trying to talk to me, while everything around me was twisted and swirly looking as if somebody used that tool on photoshop to twist things in a vortex. I also jumped out of the couch because I felt creepy, crawly things on my neck, thinking it was some sort of spider alien trying to get into my brain through my neck or something. Needless to say...that was fucking incredible!
 
Salvia. No memory of being you or even being human. Just a thoughtform zipping through multiple miscellaneous spaces/places with different dimensionality than usual. Amazing that the human mind can even HAVE such alien experiences.
 
Mushrooms mainly mind-fuck me when smoking too much marijuana, and sometimes tobacco.
LSD can mind-fuck me pretty good.
2c-e mind fucks me
K almost always mindfucks me... doesn't matter what dose I take - high or low.

I guess most psychedelics have the potential to induce mindfuck... I've probably eaten acid too many times, and so a collection of those times had to be a little mind-fucky... I've been destroyed with bleak thoughts a few times.

2c-e can make me have no idea what is going on... sometimes I don't even feel like I am human anymore... I recall one time thinking that I was a drum set, and was part of nature... and that all the sounds around me were the universe hitting me in different ways... very strange.... I was eyes closed for an hour right as i rolled Into the peak... very strange and somewhat dreamlike.

Mushrooms have really only given me trouble with weed and tobacco... If i smoke a blunt I am almost done for. Other than that they have always been very kind to me... A very clean high, and they make nature astounding...

I can not figure K out for the life of me... I have given up on it.

Salvia is a complete mind-fuck in a much different way than DMT. DMT is at least pleasurable... salvia confuses the fuck out of me then leaves me somewhat angry.


Mindfucking trips are kind of interesting.... and sometimes they suck.
 
You get a good, sincere dose of DXM in you and you'll know the answer to this one for sure. High dose DXM got me spun scarier than anything else. I've done my share of high dose shrooms and acid, believe me. As far as pure BANG goes, I'd have to say salvia. A good honest breakthrough dose of that changes everything forever and ever.
 
LSD tops every other psychedelic I have tried. Mushrooms have always just blown me away with how ridiculous they are, but I am always able to talk/convey my thoughts. With LSD though, whole different story.
 
DwayneHoover said:
Amazing that the human mind can even HAVE such alien experiences.
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And therein lies the attraction, eh? Testing what my brain can actually do with itself. I know we're meant to be all drugs are bad kids, m'kay and what have you, but I do wonder if those who've not taken their mind apart with psychedelics really know who and what they are, or what they are capable of. Found some really dark and evil shit buried away in the corners of my mind, and found things beautiful beyond words. I wouldn't take any of the experiences I've had on psychedelics back, even the bad ones. All learning curve that sheds a uniquely penetrating light on what it is to be human.
 
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