Most Euphoric Opioid? (with a twist, please read)

[Geist89]

Hydromorphone HCl is only mentioned 9 times on this page, and the replied are double that. I'd think more people would have Dilaudid as heir OOC (opiod of choice), too...

 

[WARDMAN3]

In 2004 when my back went out on a Friday afternoon, I spent a weekend in the hospital for bedrest and 2mgs of dilaudid every 2 to 3 hours. That euphoric rush was undeniable. It didn't help my pain. ( that is how bad my back hurt) but I was sure high as a kite! Upon release I was given the oral form. As many know, they seemed to be worthless orally so I went back to the Percocet for as needed pain. But sigh, the IV dilaudid was certainly the most euphoric feeling!

 

[Tchort]

Any particular reason why? Or just a 'natural' drugs fan?

When it comes to opiates/opioids, I like the histamine dump, sedation, 'dopey' feeling of Morphine, and the slightley smoother euphoria of semi-synthetic Morphine derivatives like Heroin that still have the above effects. This leads me to believe I'd really like other semi-synthetics like Deso & Nico Morphine, which would be similar to Heroin, possibly more euphoric. Semi-synthetics like Oxycodone, and synthetics like Fentanyl, Buprenorphine, Meperidine, etc lack the same itchy-scratchy histamine rush and dopey sedation. They are 'too clean' . They lack the fireworks and 'dopeyness' of Morphine/Heroin/etc. Some people like that 'cleaner' or 'smoother' opioid euphoria better, but I'd have to disagree.

 

[smackem]

Studies have shown that most opiate addicts do prefer morphine/heroin to synthetics.

 

[Joe Ten]

dilauid iv!!!

 

[Atlien3]

hydromorphone, oxymorphone, oxycodone

 

[Darth-_Vidar]

morphine then hydromorphone

 

[Supeudol]

Oxycodone > Morphine any day.. Morphine SUCKS!

Since I am not an IV opioid user. And Oxymorphone is not available in Canada, and hydrocodone is VERY rare. MSContin Sucks balls, (morphine is the worst opiate IMO)

#1 for Euphoria would have to definately be - OXY-IR (Oxycodone)
#2 Fentanyl
#3 Hydromorphone (Dilaudid 8's only).
#4 Codeine (I'll take this over MSContin even though I know codeine converts to morphine in the body, I get absolutely nothing out of taking Morphine orally, and Morphine tastes like complete shit when crushed and chewed.

- I can't comment on Hydrocodone because I have only tried it once in the U.S. and don't have enough experience to comment on it, but it is definately a LOT weaker than Oxycodone, and Oxycodone is also a lot stronger than Morphine, at least 1.5x stronger. 8)

- If I was IVing Morphine, then I probably wouldn't hate it so much, but I'm not going down the road of IVing pills (thats just stupid, and overtime will permanently do damage to your veins, especially with all the wax in MSContins and fillers/binders.)

 

[Tchort]

Since I am not an IV opioid user. And Oxymorphone is not available in Canada, and hydrocodone is VERY rare. MSContin Sucks balls, (morphine is the worst opiate IMO)

#1 for Euphoria would have to definately be - OXY-IR (Oxycodone)
#2 Fentanyl
#3 Hydromorphone (Dilaudid 8's only).
#4 Codeine (I'll take this over MSContin even though I know codeine converts to morphine in the body, I get absolutely nothing out of taking Morphine orally, and Morphine tastes like complete shit when crushed and chewed.

- I can't comment on Hydrocodone because I have only tried it once in the U.S. and don't have enough experience to comment on it, but it is definately a LOT weaker than Oxycodone, and Oxycodone is also a lot stronger than Morphine, at least 1.5x stronger. 8)

- If I was IVing Morphine, then I probably wouldn't hate it so much, but I'm not going down the road of IVing pills (thats just stupid, and overtime will permanently do damage to your veins, especially with all the wax in MSContins and fillers/binders.)

Morphine is extremely weak when taken orally, it doesn't have good bioavailibility.. MS-Contin is an extended release form as well, which would make it even less able to produce desirable narcotic effects like euphoria if taken as directed..

 

[Opioid420z]

How is cannabis "close" to being an opiate? Your response is nowhere near touching the most euphoric opiate but I will say I'm not hating because I fuckin love to shoot hydromorphone or heroin and smoke some fine headies. As for the most euphoric opiate I would agree with BumpyJohnson's whole ranking order @ oxymorphone > quality dope > hydromorphone > fentanyl > oxycodone

tchort- i would LOVE to try any of those opiates you listed after diamorphine those all look incredible on wikipedia! makes me wish i was a cancerous, diseased european!

Cannabis that is grown properly with select genetics such as Sour Bubble, or any Seed From BOG seed company.... YOU"LL SEE how close cannabis rezembles an opiate. I feel that cannabis also enhances opioids and when you feel you need "more," of an opioid if you smoke a bowl or what have you, you will see an immediate increase in opioid affects. CANNABIS IS THE NUMBER 1 FRIEND TO OPIOIDS AND MAY EVEN CUT YOUR OPIATE CONSUMPTION BY HALF!!!! Although its not an opiate it is the closest thing to it and also gives many different feelings which opiates cannot give..... Percecet and Cannabis... Ur right thought, it is off topic

`1)Oxycodone

2)Hydrocodone Norco's only... 750's or 1000 mgs are poison and do nothing

This is all I tried!!

 

[Sentimental]

I've done Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone, Oxycodone, Morphine, Codiene, and some others (I haven't IV'd any of them.)

...But to be %100 honest, when it comes to raw euphoria (excluding sedation effects) I'd have to say Tramadol. Call me crazy, but it's my 2nd favorite opiate. It feels like someone is squeezing on the back of my brain, wringing out all of the euphoria and letting it flow through me. A very under rated drug.

But my favorite opiate in general is Hydromorphone.

 

[Atlien3]

I've done Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone, Oxycodone, Morphine, Codiene, and some others (I haven't IV'd any of them.)

...But to be %100 honest, when it comes to raw euphoria (excluding sedation effects) I'd have to say Tramadol. Call me crazy, but it's my 2nd favorite opiate. It feels like someone is squeezing on the back of my brain, wringing out all of the euphoria and letting it flow through me. A very under rated drug.

But my favorite opiate in general is Hydromorphone.

i agree, if you dont have a monster tolerance, i think its the most underrated pharm out there, and awesome to ween yourself off if you wanna quit or make it till u get some big time opiates

 

[fieldgoal]

#1)

Fentanyl produces the least histamine upon injection of the common potent opioids. It is very low in euphoria, as are most of its analogues. Potency does not gage pleasure.

From experience, I have used the fentanyl patch, Actiq ( the lollipop), and now Fentora ( pill that will dissolve in your upper gum) Fentora hits you full strength in 10min. While the Actiq takes about double the time and has at least have the potency of Fentora. IMO Fentora is a very clean euphoria and is the most euphoric of the 3( assuming your put the patch on your body for 3 days as prescribed). I can not attest to the euphoria caused by smoking or eating the gel in the patches. In order to feel the euphoria, you will have to take a substantial amount. Do Not Take This Drug Unless you have a very strong tolerance. You could OD on fentanyl trying to get to that euphoric level. By far, IMO, Fentora is the best break though pain medication on the market. It's a great med if you take it just as the pain begins to come on. The downfall is it only lasts about 15-20 min. Do to my prescription plan from pparx.org, I get 1 week or 120 tablets for free each month. I take 1 tablet every 90 min. which lasts about a week. The other 3 weeks i take oxycodone 30mg, 2 tablets every 2 hours or 24 pills a day or 672 pills for 3 weeks. The potency of the Fentora is so great, The oxycodone only keeps me out of withdrawal. I normally take 8 30mg oxys 3 times a day and I don't feel a thing. I swallow them, but It is listed that the oral method has the highest availability. Not yet having insurance, all I can afford is the oxycodone. It sucks when I had my insurance the past 5 years I got 480 Actiq 1,600mcg and then in 8/07 I was switched to Fentora 800mcg. The Fentora's potency is so strong related to Actiq, the conversion of Actiq is 1,600mcg is equal to 400mcgs of Fentora to make sure the patient doesn't OD. Then they can raise the Fentora as needed. They have Fentora in 100mcg, 200mcg, 400mcg, 600mcg, and 800mcg. The way you use it is different from Actiq. They tell you to take one tablet at the onset of pain, and if the pain is getting worse, They tell you to take another tablet 15min. after you finish the first tablet. Then if you have not OD, you are told to wait 4-6hours before you repeat the same order as before. Fentora comes in a box of 28, While Actiq comes in a box of 30. The price of a box of Fentora 800mcg is around 1,400-1,500 per box, while a Box of Actiq 1,600 is between 1,500-1,600$. Actiq now comes in a generic which is identical in every way, but the name. The difference in price of a box of 1,600 generic is about 100-200$ dollar difference.

 

[JimiHawK*]

For me, nothing feels better than the cocktail of opiates present in the poppy (consumed orally in tea form). The heavy sedation, wonderful itches, massive euphoria and the extreme duration (sometimes 8hrs+) beats any pharm imo. (although i've only tried oxycodone,morphine,codeine,+some other shitty ones not worth mentioning)

When it comes to drugs, bayer aint got shit on nature~ :D

Cannabis that is grown properly with select genetics such as Sour Bubble, or any Seed From BOG seed company.... YOU"LL SEE how close cannabis rezembles an opiate. I feel that cannabis also enhances opioids and when you feel you need "more," of an opioid if you smoke a bowl or what have you, you will see an immediate increase in opioid affects. CANNABIS IS THE NUMBER 1 FRIEND TO OPIOIDS AND MAY EVEN CUT YOUR OPIATE CONSUMPTION BY HALF!!!!

perhaps it's because cannabinoids indirectly affect opiate receptors? but yeah i agree, pot+opiates=heaven.

 

[Tchort]

For me, nothing feels better than the cocktail of opiates present in the poppy (consumed orally in tea form). The heavy sedation, wonderful itches, massive euphoria and the extreme duration (sometimes 8hrs+) beats any pharm imo.

Pantopon (and similar drugs like Omnopon and co.) might be of interest to you.

It is a pharmaceutically pure combination of all of the alkaloids present in Opium, in the Hydrochloride salt form, in the correct ratios as they would be found in natural Opium. So, it's basically pharmaceutical Opium in a pill/IV amp

 

[GETYAGUN!!11]

great thread! i don't know HOW the fuck all of you get so damn lucky with this -morphone shit hahaha...ive gotten fentanyl ONCE and it was way more noddy/sedating than hydro or oxy....but OVERALL a nice 40 mg line of oxy will put me in the best euphoric (and functioning) bubble.

 

[Binge Artist]

Are we being serious, here?

Oxycodone, hydrocodone, dillaudid, fentanyl...etc, etc...

These are all very nice drugs, but honestly, these are what we take when we can't find heroin.

 

[zekethemusicman]

Cannabis that is grown properly with select genetics such as Sour Bubble, or any Seed From BOG seed company.... YOU"LL SEE how close cannabis rezembles an opiate. I feel that cannabis also enhances opioids and when you feel you need "more," of an opioid if you smoke a bowl or what have you, you will see an immediate increase in opioid affects. CANNABIS IS THE NUMBER 1 FRIEND TO OPIOIDS AND MAY EVEN CUT YOUR OPIATE CONSUMPTION BY HALF!!!! Although its not an opiate it is the closest thing to it and also gives many different feelings which opiates cannot give..... Percecet and Cannabis... Ur right thought, it is off topic

`1)Oxycodone

2)Hydrocodone Norco's only... 750's or 1000 mgs are poison and do nothing

This is all I tried!!

It sure as hell wont cut your opiate/oid use by half if your a daily user. Dont get me wrong, some master kush or stungberry with 80mg of oxycontin is just about as good as it gets...but it only enhances it...it wont potentiate that much. Now for potentiation, i take some cimitidine and a mg or two of xanax with my oxy (and some chronic to boot ) is the cats meow (wtf ever that means). Chronic buds, benzos, and a strong opiate is my fav combo.

Neway..on topic, I have to say the most straight up euphoria ive ever gotten was def from iv hydromorphone, with insufflated oxymorphone a close second.

 

[FeelinLikeYee925]

Was recently in the hospital. IV Hydromorphone sent me into interplantery orbit.

 

[wildmanz]

Agreed.

double agree