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Heroin Most effiecient, safest, route of administration for black tar heroin (besides IV)?

duncandonuts

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I might be able to get some black tar soon, and I figure I am definitely not going to IV it, I have heard the horror stories about IV black tar, and I have a fear of needles and have never IV'd a drug before. What is the most efficient way to use black tar heroin besides IV injection? Also, I have only smoked black tar once and I got little to no noticeable high from it. I was very nervous, so I don't think I inhaled properly, and the method used to smoke was a paper clip, (straightened out paperclip, with black tar heroin on one end, then you heat the other end until it turns red and it is very hot. Then you touch the black tar heroin with the heated part of the paperclip, this creates smoke and then you inhale normally using a straw.) The only reason I described this method is because I haven't seen it posted anywhere else. Does this method even work? Could someone recommend a dosage and route of administration? Thanks so much!
 
Volatilizing it on foil aka chasing the dragon. I would recommend looking at the heroin helper website, it has loads of info about proper technique and loads of other useful stuff for smack heads.
 
Foil. Shiny side down, run a lighter under the foil until it stops producing smoke. Put heroin on foil, tilt foil 10° or so, flic your bic, and chase the heroin down the foil.

Take small hits as you will probably cough at first.
 
Here's the page from heroin helper:

Smoking Heroin

The information contained in this page is culled from my book, Heroin User's Handbook. For more information on smoking heroin, see this book.

Introduction

Smoking is naturally associated with brown tar heroin in much the same way that snorting is to white powder-probably because of its association with opium. Because of its obvious wasteful nature (the heroin just goes up in smoke), smoking is often derided by other users. Although, this method can be highly wasteful, its wastefulness depends entirely upon technique; the obvious "up in smoke" aspect of waste can be entirely eliminated, as is discussed below.

A little know fact of drug taking is that smoking is the fastest way to administer a drug. This goes against most notions of drug use because it would seem that pumping a drug directly into your vein is the most direct means of administration. But getting the drug into your circulatory system will not get you high-you have to get it to your brain. Drugs taken intravenously take a circuitous path to the brain: through the veins to the liver and heart before delivery to the brain. Smoking causes a drug to be absorbed by the lungs where it is transferred to the arteries and delivered directly to the brain. But don't be misled: mainlining will get you higher than smoking. The fact of the matter is that it takes time to smoke heroin; you can't smoke a gram all at once. Smoking will give you a rush but it is not the same as slamming.

In general, smoking is safe; it will get you higher than any method other than mainlining; it's easy to do and doesn't require any special or illegal equipment. The down-side of smoking is varied. Smoking is the middle-ground procedure for heroin administration. Since it uses a direct pathway to your brain it is inherently less safe than less direct means like snoring. It is somewhat wasteful to very wasteful depending upon your technique. It is fairly difficult to smoke heroin alone, which is both good and bad: it makes smoking a good method for social drug using.

Smoking is my favorite method of ingesting heroin. It is highly ritualistic and has more of a communal feel to it. But this is not always the case.

The Procedure

Smoking heroin can be done efficiently alone but it is much easier as a couple. The basic idea is that heroin is placed on some surface which has a low heat capacity. A flame is applied to the surface from below in order to heat the heroin and start it boiling. This vapor is then inhaled with the help of some kind of tube. I will start by describing the smoking process for couples and then end with a few ideas on smoking alone.

Surface

The choice of a smoking surface is the most important one. I have tried any number of surfaces and almost all have failed because they lacked a low heat capacity. What this means is that most surfaces heat up and cool down very slowly. An example of this is asphalt; even long after the sun has gone down, the asphalt which has been heated by the sun all day stays warm. So if you take even a relatively thin piece of glass (one-eighth inch thick) and apply a flame to it, it takes a long time for the glass to get really hot and once it is hot it takes a long time to cool down.

The perfect surface is one that gets hot the instant you apply a flame and cools off the instant you remove the flame. The reason you want this is that it allows you control of when the heroin is vaporized. When you apply the flame you want the smoker to be able to inhale the heroin vapor and when he is finished you want the heroin to quit boiling right away so that none is lost. A nearly perfect surface exists in aluminum foil. It heats up quickly and cool down quickly and is generally a joy to use.

Tube

After the smoking surface, the most important decision you will need to make is what to use for a tube. I recommend toilet paper tubes. They are commonly available and they are large enough so that you are likely to loose very little smoke. It is possible, of course, that you will find something better. In fact, I've been looking for a large plastic tube for some time myself. But in all such endeavors you should use the toilet paper tube as the prototype. You do not want the tube to be too long because long tubes cause more smoke to stick to the tube and so this increases loss. I have found that the width of the toilet paper tube is also perfect. Tubes that are too big or too small will result in loss. If the tube is too small, smoke will escape around the edges. A tube which is too large does not allow you to get good suction.

Couple's Procedure


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Proper smoking procedure. There are several variations to smoking. In each, one person acts as the smoker and the other the helper. The main procedure is given below. The helper holds the foil flat and level. The foil should be about five inches (13 cm) by five inches so that it stays rigid when held from one side. The smoker places a small amount of heroin onto the center of the foil. The helper then lets go of one end of the foil. With his free hand, he lights the lighter. The smoker puts the tube up to his mouth in a comfortable position and bends to a point where the end of the tube is roughly an inch directly over the heroin. The lighter is positioned directly below the heroin underneath the foil.

When the smoker is nearly finished, he signals the helper which tells him to remove the flame. The heroin will continue to smoke for as long as 2 seconds after the flame is removed. It takes a little while to get used to the exact timing but before long you will be able to smoke using this procedure with almost no direct loss.

There are a few variations to this method of ingestion. The smoker can hold the foil. This has the advantage that it allows him immediate control of the flame; when he is finished he can simply pull away. The disadvantage is that it gives the smoker one more task. Another variation is to let the helper hold only the foil, letting the smoker hold the tube and the flame. If you have problems with foil folding on you, then you might try this. In my experience it is very hard for the smoker to gauge where the flame is relative to the heroin. But some will no doubt be able to make this work.

Solo Procedure

Most people who smoke heroin alone use a very small tube so that they can hold it in their mouths (generally a plastic straw), freeing their hands for holding the foil and the lighter. But due to the smallness of the tube, it is easy to lose much or even most of the heroin smoked. You may now be imagining holding a toilet paper roll in your mouth, but this is not how it's done; when your mouth is so contorted it is hard to inhale properly.

In order to smoke alone, you have to remove the hand's control of either the flame, the foil, or the tube. As pointed out above, the tube is out. Luckily, there are reasonable methods using the other two. It is possible to use a couple of blocks spaced by about five inches apart, to hold the foil (some creative wire sculpting is also possible). Then you can use a lighter with one hand for the flame and hold the tube in the other.

I find the other method better. It involves the use a stationary flame. The easiest example of this is a candle although a Zippo lighter will also work. In this case you can hold the foil with one hand, the tube with the other and lower the foil toward the flame as you inhale. The down side of this method is that candle flames are very dirty and if you use one you will end up with a lot of soot. If you use a Zippo, you don't have to worry so much about soot but you have to be very careful that the lighter does not fall over and that if it does it does not start a bigger fire.

[Editor's Note: There is a potentially fatal disease that is specific to smoking heroin; read all about it in our leukoencephalopathy article in the user health section of Heroin Helper.]
 
I would actually say intranasal.

You dissolve it in 1ml or so water as you would for IV, and administer it intranasally. Get it right and nasal is quite efficient, Tmax 7-10 minutes.

But alas, I've never smoked or "snorted" tar, as I was IV'ing long before trying it.
 
Smoking tar works way better than snorting I would stick to that. Safer too once you get it down pat you wont waste a drop. The instructions above look good to me.
 
^^^ Yeah, I'm sure it does. I've never smoked or snorted tar, but the idea of setting dope on fire is blasphemy to me!!!

No one's mentioned rectal, which would be quite convient with tar.

Heroin is also one of the few drugs absorbed fairly rapidly via the rectal route, though it is still slower than snorting(and of course, smoking.)

(And no smartass comments, I know you don't light it on fire!)
 
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I have never IV tar and I've never smoked it off of foil by myself, someone had to do everything for me besides inhale so I found other ways of smoking it that made it alot easier and self sufficient for me. I started by putting it into an atomizer or vape pen using the wax atomizers, it worked pretty well, I was able to take it with me, drive and smoke but the coils in the atomizer break after a week and they started to get a little expensive at 20 bucks a pop so I started looking into other things, asking questions about all of the different bongs and attachments that I started seeing in all of the smoke shops that I found out later were used for dabz, or smoking wax. I got a water bong for smoking wax, a titanium nail and a metal and or glass dabber. I prefer the metal to the glass because the glass always breaks after so long from the constant high heat. I fill the bong with my preference of liquid, I have found that orange gatorade marries well with the very strong taste of tar, but to each his own. I put anywhere from .1 to .3 grams of tar into the titanium nail. There's another glass peice that comes with the rig it's called the dome, it sits on top of the nail and serves as a sort of vortex so you don't lose any smoke, once you put the desired amount of tar in the titanium nail you place the dome on top and your ready to start smoking. You then use a torch to heat up your metal or glass dabber until it's red hot, with the right torch it doesnt take long, a min or 2 max, once it's red you take the hot dabber and lightly touch or dab at the tar, at the same time you hit or pull the smoke through the bong. You pull the dabber away from the tar when your lungs are full. Now I know this sounds like alot but its really not and everything is so well worth it. Anyone who knows anything about Dab bongs will know what I'm talking about, if not I know it sounds crazy but don't knock it until you try it. You will never use another peice of foil in your life. I have never came acrossed another user, even IV users dig it. I know people that were once IV users and only smoke it now because of dabz, same goes for the people that used foil. There are many different dab pipes and rigs, it can definitely get expensive if you become a connisuer like I have over the past year but it can also be very inexpensive if you ask the right questions at a good head shop. I live in Houston where there seems to be a new smoke shop popping up on every corner so my options are almost limitless so it's understandable if you don't have the resources but of you do I recommend strongly for anyone who's a smoker to try it. I have no doubt that if done properly you would never waste your H chasing the dragon again.
 
I guess I'm just not cordinated enough to make the foil thing work for me.
 
I never said there was anything wrong with the foil method, just wanted to share my method, anyone who uses knows about foil so I thought I would share so people know there are other options.
 
Here's the page from heroin helper:

The best tooter you can use would be one thats of a minimum length (unless you like your tooters to collect ) about 3-4 inch is best and make it out of tin foil. You put two fold on each edge about 1-1.5cm wide then you can smoke what collect on your tooter in hard times. Mine used to collect that much in the past idd get about 2 bags 0.25gram of tooter gear off a teenth smoked through a long tooter about 5-6 inch. I also used to make them coned wider at top and smaller at mouthpiece.
 
When me and my ex would go through a ball of down every 2-3 days when we smoked it, we'd use bus tickets. We'd use the same one over the course of a week and then scrape it and would have a huge pile of stuff.
 
Bus tickets lol Well im 99% sure tin foil tooters are the best to use simply because it is what you use to smoke/vapourise gear off in first place.
Paper and specially plastic straws should be an absolute no no incase you heat the plasic up to the point it start to melt/give of fumes.
Tin Foil is much safer and thats coming from a worker at the Local clinic.
I also think this too.

Peace out ;)
 
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